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Offline gumtown

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Offline gumtown

Re: Boss GT-100
« Reply #51 on: March 01, 2012, 10:28:21 PM »
I thought this is quite a nice demo of the Boss GT-100



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Offline aliensporebomb

Re: Boss GT-100
« Reply #52 on: March 01, 2012, 11:41:52 PM »
Jack Thammarat's video is a nice demonstration.  The funny thing is, the three patches he uses the first a clean tone with chorus and delay, followed by a semi-clean on the neck pickup tone followed by a high gain sound.  I've got all three of those sounds in my 99 and they sound virtually identical.  Only thing I avoid is octave up distorted lead sounds, at least here I don't think they really do a service to the device but the rest sounds nice and I like the built in looper.

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Offline datsunrobbie

Re: Boss GT-100
« Reply #53 on: March 02, 2012, 07:57:06 AM »
It's that "good manufacturing".

Maybe it's just that the Line6 people leverage the power of their products with shrewd programming skill and patch authors who know what they're doing.  The Roland stuff is great hardware for the most part but the internal software and preset programming is kind of the problem.   Line6 also has a market segment much narrower than Roland - guitar modeling, guitar amps, pa systems.  Roland sells everything from guitar boxes to high-res printer/plotters to accordions to drum kits.

And look at the recent offering at NAMM - all new os software to further increase the quality of the sounds.   And Line6 has a user community much like the AxeFX people have. 

Roland hasn't really embraced that except perhaps in the UK.  I suspect it's cultural to some degree especially from Roland Japan.


Could be that Line6 actually has some folks that spend time going through the patches their users upload to their forums and leverage that information when they are creating presets for their next box. If thousands of people are checking out a Jimi Hendrix patch then it makes sense to put one or two together as presets. Since Roland policy is to ignore user forums they are squandering a resource that could really be helping them move product. I bet there are a lot of guitarists who checked out a GR-55 at Guitar Center and were put off by the factory presets. Some of these same guitarists would have taken it home if the Gundy Keller "Heroes" patches were the first ones that came up when you powered on the machine. The naming of the presets also seems less luddite friendly than it used to be. The VG-8 presets are named so you can get a pretty good guess at the sound just from the patch names because they reference an artist or song. With the GR-55 most of the factory patch names leave me wondering what to expect. As a guitarist checking it out for the first time I'm more likely to spend more time checking it out if the presets are intuitively labeled AND have sounds that are immediately useful.

Offline Elantric

Re: Boss GT-100
« Reply #54 on: March 03, 2012, 05:35:43 PM »

Offline gumtown

Re: Boss GT-100
« Reply #55 on: March 21, 2012, 05:32:23 PM »
Here is the GT-100 USB drivers and the GT-100 Librarian.
http://www.roland.com/support/article/?q=downloads&p=GT-100
You might notice with the librarian that it will convert GT-6, GT-8 and GT-pro patch files, but not the GT-10 patch files (an error?)

Here is the four documents, User manual, parameters guide, Preset patch list, and a first, the midi implimentation before the product is released.
http://www.roland.com/support/article/?q=manuals&p=GT-100


And here is a link to the GT-100 editor i am working on (work in progress), it is about 50% the way there, and could quite possibly already provide realtime editing on a GT-100.
http://fxfloorboard.sourceforge.net/info.php?model=gt-100

and a direct link for the Tiger- Leopard version not accessable from the site page
http://sourceforge.net/projects/fxfloorboard/files/GT-100FxFloorboard/

« Last Edit: March 21, 2012, 07:07:38 PM by gumtown »
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Offline Elantric

Re: Boss GT-100
« Reply #56 on: March 21, 2012, 05:34:14 PM »
GT-100 Signal Flow chart - reveals USB re-amping ability and other details (Master EQ, Global EQ ) not mentioned at trade show floors.
« Last Edit: March 21, 2012, 05:44:58 PM by Elantric »

Offline papabuss

GT 100
« Reply #57 on: April 12, 2012, 01:23:11 PM »
Found this site today:
http://www.boss.info/sound/GT-100/
Listen to the samples.
What's your statement/opinion about this "mashine"?
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Offline Elantric

Re: GT 100
« Reply #58 on: April 12, 2012, 01:44:21 PM »
At 2012 Winter NAMM, to my ears  the new Boss GT-100 sounded like a 1996 Boss GT-3 - it was deja-vu all over again.

Of course my Kemper Profiling Amp leaves me totally spoiled, but it has raised my expectations significantly. If you already own a Boss GT-8, GT-10, I dont see a significant reason to make the incremental upgrade to a GT-100.

Prior discussions on the GT-100 are here:
http://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=5143.msg35407#msg35407

http://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=5337.msg36884#msg36884
« Last Edit: April 12, 2012, 01:49:39 PM by Elantric »

Offline gumtown

Re: GT 100
« Reply #59 on: April 12, 2012, 07:35:00 PM »
I still have a GT-3 too, now used by my vocalist friend for insert effects live.
At this stage it seems a bit early to tell if the GT-100 is significantly better than the GT-10 (from what i read),
may users seem to find the GT-100 has an easier sweet spot to dial in a tone, but in the way of features, it's pretty much identical to the GT-10.
Boss have made claim to have "re-invented COSM from ground up", i hope they can live up to that claim (for better, not worse).
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Offline gumtown

Re: Boss GT-100
« Reply #60 on: May 15, 2012, 06:05:15 PM »
FWIW: I now have a GT-100 thanks to Roland  ;D
A nice unit, looks the part with the twin displays and the user interface is a big improvement.
Some nice sounds from tweaking the custom preamps,
but (IMO) not a big revolutionary leap forward in the COSM as being advertised, but definately a good improvement.

A GT-100 editor is on the way http://sourceforge.net/projects/fxfloorboard/files/GT-100FxFloorboard/
with a lot of work going into patch file conversion from previous GT models,
and some new FloorBoard editor features which will trickle down to the next revision of the GR-55 editor, after the new firmware release.
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Offline aliensporebomb

Re: Boss GT-100
« Reply #61 on: May 15, 2012, 06:16:54 PM »
I hate to say it but is there any way to get some MP3s of what it sounds like?  I usually am reluctant to trust manufacturer samples since they're generally "optimized" to show strengths of a given device.

Cool they sent you one but they should have sent you a 55 too.  What can you do?
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Offline Elantric

Re: Boss GT-100
« Reply #62 on: May 15, 2012, 06:42:49 PM »
Quote
I hate to say it but is there any way to get some MP3s of what it sounds like?


GT-100 MP3's are are all over the net now (use google) - Roland has had many GT-100 demo sounds since January 2012.

I have no interest in one, as I've already got my guitar sounds covered for a few lifetimes thank to the Kemper Profiling Amp.

I still much prefer the Guitar Amp sound of a recent Fender Mustang Amp.

GT-100 still sounds too much like a 1996 Boss GT-3 for my taste. If I played in a big hair 80's band i might find the GT-100 attractive.
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Offline Elantric

Re: Boss GT-100
« Reply #63 on: May 15, 2012, 06:47:39 PM »
Comprehensive GT-100 review is here:
http://www.tonymckenzie.com/roland-gt-100-review.htm

Offline gumtown

Re: GT 100
« Reply #64 on: June 28, 2012, 08:45:36 PM »
The GT-100 now has firmware version 1.04

The two most noticeable updates are the 8 dial controls are easier to navigate with the turn acceleration tuned.
the other being the led on the PH looper pedal is now operating with assignments.

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Offline montyrivers

Re: GT 100
« Reply #65 on: June 29, 2012, 12:23:08 AM »
From what I've seen from the NAMM demonstrations, the demo guys seem to focus less on the technical prowess of the GT-100 and more on the new user-friendly-lickity-split tone and patch creation.  I don't think the GT-100 was intended to bring much to the table in terms of innovation.

Offline tekrytor

Re: GT 100
« Reply #66 on: June 29, 2012, 01:22:56 AM »
The GT-100 now has firmware version 1.04

The two most noticeable updates are the 8 dial controls are easier to navigate with the turn acceleration tuned.
the other being the led on the PH looper pedal is now operating with assignments.
Did somebody say LOOPER? Is there a highly functional looper in the GT-100?
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Re: GT 100
« Reply #67 on: June 30, 2012, 11:47:35 AM »
I believe, form what I've read at the boss gt central forums, it functions pretty much as the GT-10 does ( basic functions only)
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Offline gumtown

Re: GT 100
« Reply #68 on: July 15, 2012, 05:21:33 PM »
The main things the GT-100 has going for it are, the GUI is way better than anything before, so simplistic it feels like things are missing (or things are in a different place), done away with the endless scrolling of menu's and pages.

The amp tones and effects are actually better, not in a revolutionary leap but better in the right direction (not where the GT-10 went wrong).
A nice tubesque organic tone.

But it seems the Roland design team have lost focus (or maybe the new guys have moved in) on what guitar multi effects are all about, and the firmware updates to fix mistakes (wave pedal and input level assigns still don't work properly). I think time is way overdue for then next best thing after COSM..
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Offline gumtown

Re: Boss GT-100
« Reply #69 on: July 25, 2012, 07:56:26 PM »
Here is a image i made in response to a question on another forum..
Someone wanted extra features added to the GT-100 display, so i suggested this instead..

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Offline Toby Krebs

Re: Boss GT-100
« Reply #70 on: July 29, 2012, 03:38:20 PM »
Mr. Mckenzies' review was cool.Personally once I started down the GR-VG8 path I stopped needing to buy more of these types of devices. For me it's either a bunch of pedals on a board into one of my tube amps or GR55-VG8-EX into Powered speakers-KC 300 or direct to PA. I liked my old GT-3 that was stolen from me at a casino gig.Thought it sounded as good or better than anything they have made in the non GK category since then. With so many used POD 2.0s'-GT-6s'-8s' 10s' etc...available Roland will have to work a little harder in this area to get anymore of my money. Here is a short list of what I currently have and use=GR33,GR55,VG8-EX,POD-2.0,Korg AX 1000,Boss ME-25,Johnson J-Station,etc...various small Digitech and Berhinger units and probably a few more I can't think of right now. I can get great sounds out of all of them and like having so many choices. I will stick with what I have for now.

Offline montyrivers

Re: Boss GT-100
« Reply #71 on: July 29, 2012, 05:16:45 PM »
Here is a image i made in response to a question on another forum..
Someone wanted extra features added to the GT-100 display, so i suggested this instead..


That's awesome.  Made my day.

Offline gumtown

Re: Boss GT-100
« Reply #72 on: July 29, 2012, 05:22:40 PM »
I liked my old GT-3 that was stolen from me at a casino gig.Thought it sounded as good or better than anything they have made in the non GK category since then.
Must be a case of memory playing tricks, the GT's tone has much improved since the GT-3, I have both the GT-3 (mostly used as a vocal processor now) and the GT-100.
I think the GT-100 tone is much better than the GT-3, and about 4x as many effects.
Just one of those things where you remember your old gear as having this amazing tone.... until you aquire one and realize things wen't really all that great (by todays standards).
I used to think the same about the old A.R.T SGE mkII i bought in 1990, totally blown away by a 1U multi effects with 200 patches, but today it is frustrating, tempermental and noisey to use, with settings done in 4 bit steps.
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Offline Toby Krebs

Re: Boss GT-100
« Reply #73 on: July 30, 2012, 08:11:21 AM »
Yes! Memory does play tricks agreed! My little ME-25 sounds and feels great and I have gigged with it. Thanks for the editor for that one by the way. Very Cool!And to clarify a bit I am always on the lookout for any older(GT-10,GT-8 etc...) units that aren't too beat up for a reasonable price and I do buy them and use them. I am just so knocked out by the GR55 having guitar and PCM tones in one box(what I have wished for, for 20 years) that as a jazz player primarily who is hired to do both, the purchase of a GT 100 new is just not necessary for me at this time. I am sure it is great and I would love to have one. When I have a block of time I will head down to my local GC, play the thing for an hour and sell a couple for them while I am there!In my area I am the only pro level active player who even owns and uses a GR55. Lastly,I love Roland-Boss Cosm sounds and think they are as good or better than anything else. For a lot of what I am doing these days I don't use mag pickup sounds. Just the on board stuff of the GR55 and it kills! Thanks to everyone on this forum.90 per cent of the musicians in my area are still trying to master the double stop intro to "Brown Eyed Girl" God Bless them! That is why I very much appreciate the discussions on this forum.

Offline Jim Williams

Re: Boss GT-100
« Reply #74 on: August 01, 2012, 09:23:26 AM »
In responce to the GT-3 statements I dusted off my old GT-3 and I was impressed with the sounds I got from it. The amp models have improved greatly since then but with some EQ tricks I was able to make some good tones. Years ago this was my gig pedal board and I wish I knew then what I know now. It is a very simple to use pedal but it is what it is and Roland has come a long way. It still has some practical uses and if I need a backup it is there and lately I have made some patches on it just in case the unthinkable happens. I was planing to use it along side my GR-55 but the amp models are just too week, so I will be getting a GT-100 and I think it will be a nice addition to my rig.
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