Using GP-10 and GR-55 together

Started by Shakidoby, February 07, 2024, 07:59:51 PM

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Shakidoby

Hi, y'all. I have an idea and ideas cause questions. Does anyone use GP-10 and GR-55 simultaneously? How do you do it. I have no GK-Splitter so my idea was
(1) to run the GR-55 by the GK-PU and plug the original PUs direktly into the GP-10s guitar in

(2). Or would it be possible to link the GR-55 guitar out to the guitar in of the GP-10? I would switch between the units with a Boss LS-2. Any suggestions? Thx for thinkin about.
One foot in the grave, one foot on the pedal - I was born a rebel. (Tom Petty)

gumtown

A GK splitter would be the ultimate solution, and get the best out of both boxes.
Rather than switching between  either unit, get the best from both by using both at the same time, and mix both the outputs to a single/stereo output.

Plan B GR-55 guitar out into the GP-10 guitar input would also do.

(BTW Shakidoby: I have posted another GP-10 editor update for the one the other day, fixed a minor issue)
Free "GR-55 FloorBoard" editor software from https://sourceforge.net/projects/grfloorboard/

diecairo

#2
You can do both ways you wrote. But with the first option you will not have the normal p.u. signal inside the GR-55, and no "virtual guitaring" by the GP-10.
Obviously with the second option you have that normal signal to the GR-55 but no guitar modeling or alt tune with the GP-10 also.
So this second option (gumtown's Plan B) you lose less options, because you can access all 4 paths inside GR-55 (PCM 1&2 + modeling + normal p.u.).

Elantric

#3

Shakidoby

Thank you all for your responds. Why doesn't Roland sell the US-20 anymore? Could be so easy.
Yeah, the splitting would be the best of both worlds. Maybe I should get everything to build one and give it a try. I'm not very good at soldering, but what could go wrong... just make sure, that only one unit is powering the GK-PU. But first, I try the B-Plan with my band. I like it, that the GP-10 has so many great patches for original pu use. The GR-55 is more difficult with that, I hardly use the normal pickups with it, and you can't plug a normal guitar in without tricks.

To Gumtown, thank you, I will get the update.

One foot in the grave, one foot on the pedal - I was born a rebel. (Tom Petty)

plexified


An adapter is available to plug normal guitars into the GR-55, it plugs right in without any modifications here :

https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=36671.0


Elantric

Quote from: Shakidoby on February 11, 2024, 07:28:27 PMThank you all for your responds. Why doesn't Roland sell the US-20 anymore? Could be so easy.
Yeah, the splitting would be the best of both worlds. Maybe I should get everything to build one and give it a try. I'm not very good at soldering, but what could go wrong... just make sure, that only one unit is powering the GK-PU. But first, I try the B-Plan with my band. I like it, that the GP-10 has so many great patches for original pu use. The GR-55 is more difficult with that, I hardly use the normal pickups with it, and you can't plug a normal guitar in without tricks.

To Gumtown, thank you, I will get the update.

Roland US-20 is still in production

New
https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/US20--roland-us-20-gk-2a-gk-3-unit-selector-pedal

Used
https://www.ebay.com/itm/315113168541




Shakidoby

#7
Oh yes, I saw those available in Japan. But I'm quite scared to send money (A lot of money) to a foreign country wich is not in Europe. Maybe I will get charged with extra taxes, when it is delivered. So Japan and US is a little out of sight for that. And the sweetwater-price is much too high for what it would be worth to me. (Are they crazy? It's just a simple switcher?) But thank you for the information. Why is it only available in Japan and US? They sell the units here, so why not the switchers? In European Stores it says always "Not in stock anymore"
One foot in the grave, one foot on the pedal - I was born a rebel. (Tom Petty)

Shakidoby

Quote from: plexified on February 11, 2024, 09:10:53 PMAn adapter is available to plug normal guitars into the GR-55, it plugs right in without any modifications here :

https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=36671.0


This is not what I'm looking for but I appreciate the knowledge I have won.
This is interesting too. Thank you.
One foot in the grave, one foot on the pedal - I was born a rebel. (Tom Petty)

Elantric


Elantric


diecairo

Quote from: Shakidoby on February 12, 2024, 04:22:41 PM(Are they crazy? It's just a simple switcher?)

You're right Shakidoby, I think that's overpriced too, also keeping in mind you would need two additional GK cables (crazy priced too by Roland).
You could seriously evaluate this cheaper one though https://sixeightsoundcontrol.onlineweb.shop/product/gk-splitter

sixeight

Quote from: diecairo on February 13, 2024, 06:10:12 AMYou're right Shakidoby, I think that's overpriced too, also keeping in mind you would need two additional GK cables (crazy priced too by Roland).
You could seriously evaluate this cheaper one though https://sixeightsoundcontrol.onlineweb.shop/product/gk-splitter

I will build two of them next week, so get a stock notification in quickly if you are interested.

Elantric

Quote from: diecairo on February 13, 2024, 06:10:12 AMYou're right Shakidoby, I think that's overpriced too, also keeping in mind you would need two additional GK cables (crazy priced too by Roland).
You could seriously evaluate this cheaper one though https://sixeightsoundcontrol.onlineweb.shop/product/gk-splitter


US-20 cost includes two short GK 13 Cables, often missing from used examples

Shakidoby

Quote from: sixeight on February 13, 2024, 08:22:07 AMI will build two of them next week, so get a stock notification in quickly if you are interested.
Hoi, Jij bent van Nederland? My moeder was uit Groningen. My Nederlands is niet so goed meer. Ik heb geleerd Nederlands te praten en te verstaan, maar ik heb nooit geleerd Nederlands te scrijven. Only from reading books, comics (I loved Suske en Wiske) and subtitled televisie.

So you build Gk-Splitters? I'd like to have one. What would it cost me?
One foot in the grave, one foot on the pedal - I was born a rebel. (Tom Petty)

Shakidoby

So, today I tried the B-Version at the rehearsal.
That means: Guitar plugged in GK-3, GK-3 plugged into GR-55, Gr-55 guitar out > GP-10 guitar in, both units main output plugged in Boss LS-2 switcher to switch between the units or play them together. So the GR-55 was fully functional while the GP-10 only had the guitars original PUs.
It works out to me so far, some patchvolumes have to be corrected.
One foot in the grave, one foot on the pedal - I was born a rebel. (Tom Petty)

sixeight

Quote from: Shakidoby on February 13, 2024, 01:12:02 PMHoi, Jij bent van Nederland? My moeder was uit Groningen. My Nederlands is niet so goed meer. Ik heb geleerd Nederlands te praten en te verstaan, maar ik heb nooit geleerd Nederlands te scrijven. Only from reading books, comics (I loved Suske en Wiske) and subtitled televisie.

So you build Gk-Splitters? I'd like to have one. What would it cost me?

Kom uit Drachten niet ver van Groningen.

Al info on the splitter is here: https://sixeightsoundcontrol.onlineweb.shop/product/gk-splitter

Shakidoby

Quote from: sixeight on February 13, 2024, 01:23:47 PMKom uit Drachten niet ver van Groningen.

Al info on the splitter is here: https://sixeightsoundcontrol.onlineweb.shop/product/gk-splitter
Ik ben noit in Groningen geweest, mijn Oma en Opa woonden in Amersfoort en later in Katwijk an zee.
Was alltijd leuk in de zomervacancies. 

Your website has been suggested to me earlier, but there was no Item in Stock, so I didn't dig deeper. Do you also make short GK-Cables?
One foot in the grave, one foot on the pedal - I was born a rebel. (Tom Petty)

gumbo

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sixeight

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Quote from: Shakidoby on February 13, 2024, 03:40:28 PMIk ben noit in Groningen geweest, mijn Oma en Opa woonden in Amersfoort en later in Katwijk an zee.
Was alltijd leuk in de zomervacancies. 

Your website has been suggested to me earlier, but there was no Item in Stock, so I didn't dig deeper. Do you also make short GK-Cables?

It is just a hobby and I often sell out quickly. But you can put in a stock request and that will get you on the waitlist. I will build 2 more next week. There is already one person on the waitlist.

billbax

Three switchable buffered normal guitars into an equivalent GKP-2 distribution cable. It's not enough ;D

Bill Bax