Started by stephenseifert, August 21, 2023, 07:06:02 PM
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Quote from: stephenseifert on August 21, 2023, 07:06:02 PMMy initial impression of the GM-800 is it handles what I'm playing more gracefully than the GR-33. The GM-800 has more useful settings. So many good things about it
Quote from: stephenseifert on August 22, 2023, 11:52:39 AMI've gone through many tests now, and I realize I could be wrong, but I truly believe the Roland GR-33 is better for me. I went back and forth, and the GR-33 keeps responding better and actually sounding more musical for what I do. I REALLY want to like the GM-800, but I just can't. The guy who sold it to me, someone I trust a lot, is disappointed I'm giving up so quickly. He says there's no way I know every inch of that device in such a short time, and he's probably right. I've gone through all the settings using both a Graphtech Ghost pickup and the GK-3. I've been through the manuals. I've tweaked everything. Man, after everything I've been through, including comparing to the GR-55, I have to say, this GR-33 is pretty good. I want something that beats it, but I haven't found it yet. I recommend everyone try the GM-800. Put it through its paces. Prove me wrong. I would LOVE that. I'm shipping this back tomorrow. Back to making music.
Quote from: BROCKSTAR on August 22, 2023, 12:44:27 PMI don't have gr-33 right now but I used to have it like 3 or 4 times and to me the gm-800 is miles ahead in sound and dynamics and all the options it has and stuff compared to the gr-33. GR-33 is nice, but dated.
Quote from: stephenseifert on August 23, 2023, 04:36:09 AMI enjoy programming a DX7 WITHOUT an editor. I've been using Reaktor and Rack on a deep level for years. I've dabbled with PD and Max DSP. I have an audio engineering degree. (For whatever that's worth. lol) I LOVE reading manuals. I know the menus and settings quite well on the GR-33 and the VG-99. I spent hours going through the menus and settings on the GM-800. I have a Graphtech Ghost and a Roland GK-3. I believe they are set up well. On the GM-800, I tried the pickup setting Boss recommends, and I also tried the other settings. I did the same with the GK-3. I tried different kinds of sounds. I'm aware of how a slow attack can make it feel like the unit is responding slow even when it isn't. I'm familiar with the sensitivity/feel settings. I tried everything you're supposed to try. YES, I could be wrong about something, here. Maybe I'm missing something, but this isn't my first rodeo. I realize you need to play differently, and I believe I'm doing that well. I wasn't getting ghost notes or glitches. I perform regularly, and I believe I have pretty good technique. When I flatpick or strum really fast, the GM-800 is ALMOST as good as the GR-33 at tracking. I mean it's darn close, but there's a difference, and I can't understand why they can't at least make a new device function as well as a 20-year-old device. I measured the latency, and the GM-800 is almost always 4ms slower. I thought the 800 was handling things more gracefully, but after a lot more playing, the GR-33 was just reacting better to me.Yes, the GM-800 has more complex sounds and better effects, but to say it's miles above the GR-33 is quite a stretch. Besides, I learned long ago that the more complex synth sounds aren't as usable. I prefer the simple ones. And then there's the matter of adjusting these sounds inside the box. You can't do that much. If you want to do proper sound design, you have to use your computer. I don't mind that so much, but when I'm playing with folks, I'd really like to be able to do more WITHOUT connecting to a computer. From https://www.boss.info/us/products/gm-800/:"...delivers tracking stability and expressive scope never before possible."Really? Make me a believer. Please! I want this.So, I still have this thing. It's boxed up, but if anyone has suggestions, I'll unbox it and try again. Let's just presume there's something I'm not getting right. I'm okay with that. So, what can I try? And why am I writing this? Because I REALLY WANT TO LOVE AND USE THIS THING. I'm not a hater. I've been using Roland and Boss for years, and I'm a huge fan. I would love to find out I'm wrong about this thing. You know, when you buy something, you want it to be right, and you're willing to believe all kinds of things that might not be quite true. It's like the first couple weeks with a new girlfriend; You kind of can't see clearly. You want to believe she's perfect. I feel that with this device. So, please help? Anyone?