Started by pasha811, January 26, 2022, 05:02:55 AM
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Quote from: Kevin M on January 26, 2022, 05:15:45 AMIf you are considering an SY200, I'd opt for the 300 instead. It has far more capabilities. You should be able to find a gently used one pretty easily. The SY1k still has some 'glitchiness', even at the latest firmware. However, with a bit of effort, it can be tamed. I'm hopeful, but not overly confident that this will be truly fixed with a future update. Glitches aside it's a remarkable unit, and you can easily get lost for days exploring what it's capable of.
Quote from: fokof on January 26, 2022, 06:28:29 AMCan't answer your question but I'say : if you go for the SY1000 , keep the VG99 for a while
Quote from: BROCKSTAR on January 26, 2022, 07:36:55 AMI say why not have it all if you can! I'm enjoying that each unit has it's own limits and beauty.However regarding sy-200... I wouldn't go for it or sy-1 as they are limited when it comes to controls and parameters. Sy-300 is much better, but if you do go with sy-1000 (although I like the effects a bit more in sy-300 compared to sy-1000 but the sy-1000 effects is fine enough), you pretty much already have a sy-300 / sy-200 / sy-1 built into the guitar input side of the sy-1000 as the dynamic synth oscillators (the only synth you can control with guitar input) sound exactly the same in sy-1000 as they do in sy-300 / sy-200 / sy-1 and I got a video on the sy-300 vs sy-1000 guitar input showcasing that if you haven't seen it. The sy-1000 shines much brighter when used with a 13-pin device of course, making the dynamic synth much warmer among other things the box is capable of doing with the 13-pin device.To me the sy-1000 is like they took parts of vg-99, gp-10, sy-300 and put it all in a box, but still even with them all in one box, the individual units still sound different enough alone as well if that makes sense, which is kind of cool having them all lol
Quote from: pasha811 on January 26, 2022, 05:02:55 AM... VG99 is my main machine and it is very satisfactory ...
Quote from: Tosh on January 26, 2022, 10:07:34 AMYou didn't specify any recording needs, but it's worth noting that the SY1000 works as a superb interface. For me, the 8 track output on USB is fantastic (as my instrument is a 4 string bass, 2 of the tracks don't get used).My opinion is that if your instrument has a polyphonic output (either 4, 5, or 6 strings) then the SY1000 is the pedal to get
Quote from: aliensporebomb on January 26, 2022, 01:43:27 PMLets see. Pads? Pads on the SY-1000? Well here's one of mine:https://soundcloud.com/aliensporebomb/colorwash-sy-1000-patch-demoBut, that's not using any of the onboard synths. That's just processed guitar so there's no delay or mistracking.I'll be uploading some variations of this patch soon. I find switching up the frequency range the patch is located changes the timbre nicely.
Quote from: pasha811 on January 26, 2022, 05:02:55 AM....I have developed some expectations about SY1000: Dynamic Synth ability to make my own pads.........plus, some experiments with 4 sound sources and good mix of synth plus guitars, Alt Tunings.
Quote from: kimyo on January 26, 2022, 07:18:31 PMto me, in trying to view things thru your eyes, the enjoyment you might derive from programming patches is the key criteria. if, as with the gp-10, you find that creating sounds is a primary and ongoing source of creative stimulation, then the sy-1000 will be 900 euros well spent. however, if recording/looping gives you more pleasure i believe you'll get more bang for the buck by adding more synths like zebra or a hardware/rackmount unit and methods to manipulate them (modulation, pitchbend, breath control, patch blend). the subject wasn't raised, but to me a key secondary criteria would be if you have an amp modelling solution you prefer to the gt-1000. at the bottom would be guitar modeling quality (as you're already driving a pair of porsches, sure, that baby blue maserati does have a nice throaty rumble, but will it really get you there that much faster?).ps: i use ableton chord adg's religiously. lots of fun to put one on one string only, with or without an arpeggiator. the guilty feeling is temporary, in my case.
Quote from: pasha811 on January 26, 2022, 09:10:56 PMWhen it comes to solo I am not overall satisfied as some patch on jv1010 exhibits odd behavior in response to bending.
Quote from: kimyo on January 26, 2022, 09:57:29 PMdoes it happen in both mono and poly mode? is the jv-1010 one of those multi-layered devices? sometimes each voice has a separate pitchbend setting.seems like this should be solvable.
Quote from: aliensporebomb on January 26, 2022, 01:43:27 PMLets see. Pads? Pads on the SY-1000? Well here's one of mine:https://soundcloud.com/aliensporebomb/colorwash-sy-1000-patch-demoBut, that's not using any of the onboard synths. That's just processed guitar so there's no delay or mistracking.I'll be uploading some variations of this patch soon. I find switching up the frequency range the patch is located changes the timbre nicely.Here's another live jam SY-1000 track but I borrowed Nobulusprime's wonderful "Eternal Wheel" Ozric Tentacles sequence (and added some delay to it to mess with the rhythmic feel) to jam with my string patch here:https://soundcloud.com/aliensporebomb/several-minutes-of-entertainment-sy-1000-testI added a little guitar solo at the end of that one. All sounds SY-1000- and nothing else.I keep meaning to make a recording of my 3-way splitter box to allow me to drive the VG-99, SY-1000 and GP-10 at the same time but that's a lotta cabling to the mixer.
Quote from: pasha811 on January 26, 2022, 09:10:56 PMA sustain pedal is all I need to change chords.
Quote from: kimyo on January 28, 2022, 04:36:06 PMwhen you do get your hands on an sy-1000, test out the sustain options, their behavior may not suit keyboardists who moonlight as synth-guitarists.