WTB : Roland G303 guitar ? FOUND ONE ! ! !

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dedjazzgadgetz

   Want to buy a Roland G303 Guitar Controller for a King Crimson, Discipline album cover band (mainly : for the Sheltering Sky duet)

   I do have a GR300 & cable to go along with it but, *might* buy the whole package, if priced right...

   Ideally in Canada, better still : in Quebec, Montreal region !


Thanks in advance,
dedjazzgadgetz
No excuses, no limits

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dedjazzgadgetz

#2
Hey, thanks Elantric !

   But yeah, well... it's in Ireland so, will entail BIG shipping costs & a *juicy* Import Tax, to be sure...

   This is why I'm testing the waters in the VGuitar community, hopefully for a seller not-too-far-away !

P.S. : the first one I bought (for our "Robert" ; I'm the "Adrian") from a colleague for $1200 CAD (that'd be $920 USD)... so, looking for a cheap, even malfunctionning, TLC-needing kinda-deal... a guy can always dream ! Oh : and it is for one song, after all ! (although I *think* "Discipline" is played using both G303 ?)
No excuses, no limits

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Either g303 or g808 have really shot up in price in the last few years
many collectors are hanging on to them

search Ebay Reverb twice a week

dedjazzgadgetz

#4
Oh, for sure : I'm searching eBay/Reverb, local Craigslist/ads/pawnshops, everywhere... 20 times-a-DAY !
No excuses, no limits


dedjazzgadgetz

#6
Thanks Chrish !

   Yes, I've seen that one as well...

   The issue is not the sound (as I have mentionned owning the blue GR-300 floor synth) but the G303 guitar itself... "stage theatrics" if you will, for the closest stage recreation of the 80's version of King Crimson (Musical Box-style... I have Belew"s red suit !)

   As I have laying about a coupla old Roland Guitar boards & pick-ups (given to me by a good luthier friend of mine), I'm even thinking about *maybe* "cosmetically" modding say, a LP Junior Epi, into a "reasonably" functional fac simile.

   It's only for a song (or 2 !), after all...

But thanks for the suggestions !

No excuses, no limits

chrish

#7
Well in that case how about a Strat with some custom paint.

BTW I'm looking for a G series hex pup if you ever consider selling one.



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#8
Quote from: dedjazzgadgetz on February 01, 2019, 08:00:20 PM
Thanks Chrish !

   Yes, I've seen that one as well...

   The issue is not the sound (as I have mentionned owning the blue GR-300 floor synth) but the G303 guitar itself... "stage theatrics" if you will, for the closest stage recreation of the 80's version of King Crimson (Musical Box-style... I have Belew"s red suit !)

   As I have laying about a coupla old Roland Guitar boards & pick-ups (given to me by a good luthier friend of mine), I'm even thinking about *maybe* "cosmetically" modding say, a LP Junior Epi, into a "reasonably" functional fac simile.

   It's only for a song (or 2 !), after all...

But thanks for the suggestions !

Of course you know both G303 /G808 were FujuGen/Greco guitars
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FujiGen




Similar looking guitars are late 70's early 80's FGN,


Aria Pro,


Washburn,


Ibanez Artist 



=even late 70's Yamaha SG series models



https://tymguitars.com.au/blogs/blog/1979-greco-go700


click here

https://www.google.com/search?q=Greco+Go&hl=en&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ei=r8cqUbWDPYWtqwGu3IHgDQ&ved=0CC4QsAQ&biw=1260&bih=970#imgrc=_


dedjazzgadgetz

Hey, Chrish !

   Yes, I'm working on the beat-up, sprayed-Strat ! (I've built 2 Kahler "twang bar king" Mustang-synths about 25 years ago, albeit without the cubist artwork)

   Elantric : of course, the GO1000... just as  expensive & missing all the hex electronics (Would need to be refinished too : that's a no-GO... don't pardon the pun !)

   But that G303 replica site : WOW ! Heading over right this minute ! Thanks-a-million ! ! !
No excuses, no limits


dedjazzgadgetz

#12
O.k. : now you've got me fired off !

   I'll be looking into cheaper "carvetop" GO900s to mod, as an alternative as well !

   That Guitar Shop site is a wondeful find !

Thanks ! ! !
No excuses, no limits

dedjazzgadgetz

#13
   But still, if anybody has a *bargain* G303 guitar gathering dust (even if malfunctioning/untested) & is willing to ship to Montreal, Canada... let's talk !


Thanks in advance !

dedjazzgadgetz
No excuses, no limits

chrish

https://chicago.craigslist.org/wcl/msg/d/orland-park-roland-guitar-synth-gr300/6811800744.html

Roland Guitar Synth GR300 - $1800 (Orland Park)



Single Owner Git-303 and Synth module beautiful condition.

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#15
Quote from: admin on February 01, 2019, 09:01:36 PM
Of course you know both G303 /G808 were FujuGen/Greco guitars
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/FujiGen

among the last projects for Mr. Ikutaro Kakehashi (the Founder of Roland) and FujiGen's latest effort
http://www.atvcorporation.com/en/news/2019/00239/
http://www.aframe.jp/story/
Product Development Story:
ATV aFrame--A Next-Generation Electric Instrument Created through a Fusion of an Acoustic Instrument, DSP Technologies, and Traditional Japanese Craftsmanship
ATV is an emerging instrument manufacturer founded by Ikutaro Kakehashi, a legend in the world of music instruments. ATV's electronic drum "aD5," the first product from ATV, has garnered a lot of attention for its high-definition sound performance, cutting-edge specifications, and divergence from the norm. ATV is now launching its new electrorganic percussion instrument known as the aFrame--a unique electronic instrument compatible with traditional percussion instrument playing techniques.
The diamond-shaped frame drum is equipped with high-performance built-in piezo-microphones, pressure sensors, and a strong DSP circuit. Sounds produced by the player's bare hands are picked up, processed and output by the DSP based on ATV's proprietary Adaptive Timbre Technology, an innovative technology that produces diverse tones by modifying the harmonic makeup of the signal input. This allows for compatibility with various playing techniques not supported by conventional electronic percussion instruments, which simply trigger PCM sound sources. Players can use traditional playing techniques such as striking, pressing, friction, and snapping the playing surface for expressive playing and phrasing. Of course there is no latency because the aFrame is not a mere combination of sound sources and pads. A player can freely play electronic sounds as if they're playing an acoustic instrument.
The beautiful appearance--like that of a work of art--is another feature of the aFrame. The frame body, which has a decisive influence on output sound quality, is made of laminated bamboo. The frame is beautifully hand-crafted by experienced and skilled craftsmen of the renowned instrument workshop Fujigen. (Wow!)
Thus, the aFrame is a long-awaited next-generation electronic instrument produced by the legendary Ikutaro Kakehashi through the fusion of an acoustic instrument, DSP technologies, and traditional Japanese craftsmanship.
A reporter from ICON visited Matsumoto, the home of ATV's development site and Fujigen's plant, and interviewed the people involved in the development of the aFrame. The interviewees were Mr. Makoto Muroi, the President & CEO of ATV, Mr.Tsukasa Arakawa, the Producer at the R&D Dept. of ATV's Matsumoto Laboratory, Mr. Tsutomu Tanaka, the mechanical engineer of the R&D Dept. and Mr. Ikuo Kakehashi, the aFrame development advisor and percussion performer. For the frame, we also interviewed Fujigen's staff in charge of production.












dedjazzgadgetz

#16
   That aFrame is cool & all, but isn't it missing (IMHO, of course) the possibilities of "regions" ? Say : assign a "bass drum" in this corner, a "hi-hat" in that one, a pair of individual tabla sounds... probably not feasable with that particular design, 'though... idk.

Hey Chrish !

   That G303 set is a great find : is it yours ? Had I the cash, I'd be tempted, but... my car gave up this week. DARN ! I've got to save up for repairs/a "new one" ( -ha ! ).

   So, while checking out Elantric's "G303 replica" gem, I hopped over YT to glance some "copy carver" ideas (I have a tiny shop in the basement & enough metal/wood "bits & bobs" to play with :

   - using the original guitar as a master, I thought, why not try & make a copy ? ! (maybe buy a "paddle" set-in neck from eBay ?)

   There's a huge lumber yard nearby (they have a great exotic wood sections) with a big ol' "scap" bin ("imperfect" cuts, odds & ends...). I'll hop over, see if I can get lucky... as I have more time than cash, right now.

   Might turn into a "making-of" kinda vlog... ?

dedjazzgadgetz
No excuses, no limits

admin

#17
Quote from: dedjazzgadgetz on February 08, 2019, 10:27:09 AM
   That aFrame is cool & all, but isn't it missing (IMHO, of course) the possibilities of "regions" ? Say : assign a "bass drum" in this corner, a "hi-hat" in that one, a pair of individual tabla sounds... probably not feasable with that particular design, 'though... idk.



Correct  - which is why I like a used Handsonic HPD-20
https://www.roland.com/us/products/handsonic_hpd-20/



I mentioned the aFrame drum because it was among the last projects for Mr. Ikutaro Kakehashi (the Founder of Roland)

Prior to his death in 2017  - he was focused on a different company called

ATV Global

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ikutaro_Kakehashi

http://atv-global.com/

ATV[edit]
In 2014, Kakehashi founded the ATV Corporation. [6] Together with Paulo Caius, former CEO of Roland Iberia, Founder and CEO of Roland Systems Group EMEA, Makoto Muroi, a prestigious research engineer for music and audiovisuals, also former President of the Roland Systems Group Japan, Mark Tsuruta, former CEO of Roland Audio Development USA and Glenn Dodson, previous CEO of Roland Australia, they've decided to start again with a dedicated and experienced team. ATV has been growing since; with a vast team of experienced engineers focused on providing the market with brilliant and exciting new products in both market fields.


http://atv-global.com/music/drums/ad5



And of course they used a familiar Supply Chain by working with FujiGen ( who built many OEM Guitars for Roland ) for the aFrame Drum project   
http://www.atvcorporation.com/en/news/2019/00239/

dedjazzgadgetz

   Yep : the HandSonic is exactly what I was thinking of... the aFrame is probably waaay more touch-sensitive/"fun" to hold & play for a "traditional"/cajon/bodhrán-type performer. Or they wouldn't have bothered... ?

   Say : I just came up with a "no-pantograph-involved", dead-simple, 1-to-1 router "copy-carver" concept (using nothing more than a bunch of door hinges & a "coupla" pieces of two-by-four left-over "scraps"), avoiding tracks & gantries altogether...

   ...just need to prototype it, see how accurate it can be... (not aiming for CNC precision, anyway... just good'nough for a final "spindle" & sandpaper-shaping)
No excuses, no limits

chrish

Quote from: dedjazzgadgetz on February 08, 2019, 10:27:09 AM
   

Hey Chrish !

   That G303 set is a great find : is it yours ? Had I the cash, I'd be tempted, but... my car gave up this week. DARN ! I've got to save up for repairs/a "new one" ( -ha ! ).

   
dedjazzgadgetz
not mine.

Came across that set up searching Craigslist for hex pickups.

I recently lucked out and purchased a used G303 with a missing hex pick up and back cavity cover from a great guy off of reverb.com.

Before that I was considering carving up my 81 Ibanez artist and installing the 24 pin board and hex off of a spare g505.

Glad I didn't take that route.


dedjazzgadgetz

#20
I'm curious : when & how much did you pay for your G303/GR300 set ? (if not too indiscreet)
No excuses, no limits


aliensporebomb

Quote from: chrish on February 08, 2019, 12:29:09 PM
not mine.

Came across that set up searching Craigslist for hex pickups.

I recently lucked out and purchased a used G303 with a missing hex pick up and back cavity cover from a great guy off of reverb.com.

Before that I was considering carving up my 81 Ibanez artist and installing the 24 pin board and hex off of a spare g505.

Glad I didn't take that route.

I have a JPEG of an advertisement of a Ibanez Japan factory installed GR 24-pin setup built into an Ibanez Artist.  Boy I salivated all over that one.  It was a black and white ad but it was a model available in Japan at the time of the GR-300/GR-100's popularity.
My music projects online at http://www.aliensporebomb.com/

GK Devices:  Roland VG-99, Boss GP-10, Boss SY-1000.

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#23
Quote from: aliensporebomb on February 08, 2019, 01:24:41 PM
I have a JPEG of an advertisement of a Ibanez Japan factory installed GR 24-pin setup built into an Ibanez Artist.  Boy I salivated all over that one.  It was a black and white ad but it was a model available in Japan at the time of the GR-300/GR-100's popularity.

I was at the Roland Booth in 1982 when those "Factory Roland 24 pin compatible "  models were on Display  = Gibson, Hamer, Ibanez, Steinberger, Aria


https://www.google.com/search?q=ibanez+with+Roland+LPK&rlz=1C1GCEU_enUS821US821&source=lnms&tbm=isch&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwi4xZSMja3gAhWBCXwKHTs9DIsQ_AUIDygC&biw=1745&bih=971




https://www.joness.com/gr300/Explorer.html




https://www.joness.com/gr300/Gibson_Les_Paul_LPK-1_Roland_Ready_Vintage_Controller.htm

Roland sold a 24 pin internal kit for the Gibson Les Paul 
https://www.joness.com/gr300/LPK.htm


and STRAT

https://www.joness.com/gr300/STK-1.htm


https://www.joness.com/gr300/Hamer-A7.html


they even had Basses that were compatible with the Roland GR-33B





https://www.joness.com/gr300/Steinberger_XL2-GR_Vintage_Bass_Roland_Guitar_Synth_Controller.html

https://www.joness.com/gr300/GR-33B.htm

chrish

Quote from: dedjazzgadgetz on February 08, 2019, 12:37:05 PM
I'm curious : when & how much did you pay for your G303/GR300 set ? (if not too indiscreet)
I purchased a used GR300 for $550 shipped Sept 2017 quickly followed by a G505 guitar with a Rosewood neck.

The maple neck spare parts G505 came later but turned out to be a nice guitar.

Tales of that Saga here.

https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=21269.0

The G303 in need of hex and back cover I recently purchased for $190 shipped with case.

Also it didn't have the original rear pick up or original Bridge and the previous owner had sanded the neck, but no problem as I'm a player, not a collector or reseller.

The Guitar wood itself was in very good condition.  The patina on the metal parts is perfect.

That guitar came complete with great vibes. :)

Quote from: aliensporebomb on February 08, 2019, 01:24:41 PM
I have a JPEG of an advertisement of a Ibanez Japan factory installed GR 24-pin setup built into an Ibanez Artist.  Boy I salivated all over that one.  It was a black and white ad but it was a model available in Japan at the time of the GR-300/GR-100's popularity.

Would like see that if you have time to post it.

I missed the hay day on that era during a long break when I thought I was done with guitar.

Came back in when the Roland GR50 "guitar synths" were being closed out.

Almost didn't commit to the recent GR300 24 pin guitar discovery but glad I did.