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Started by Elantric, January 17, 2016, 04:08:44 PM
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QuoteWe're looking into this for certain. I can't say if/when it'll be put in the platform, but we plan to have deeper conversations with ThunderBolt partners soon. Also, I know Intel is already working on an updated ThunderBolt that is even faster. It's a never ending arms race.Personal, not Microsoft, opinion follows:I'm a bit concerned about ThunderBolt adoption and whether or not it will have longevity. It's an expensive cable, a relatively large connector (thickness wise), and a proprietary solution that has to be licensed. It's not an open standard. The expense of controllers and connectors means that almost no devices bother to support daisy chaining. End result is that most people with more than one or two ThunderBolt devices have to buy expensive hubs.It's also an Intel solution that is very PC-centric, so it cuts out mobile/ARM devices, which are increasingly popular for music making. At some point, I assume we'll hear folks asking why they can't use a ThunderBolt device with their iPad. It's not really as simple as implementing the connector and the driver. The entire architecture is very Intel-specific.Project BBQ think tanks looking at future audio connectors for devices have discarded ThunderBolt because of size and its proprietary nature and expense. Instead, they recommend pursuing USB 3.1/CFor pro shops and studios, it seems to me that IEEE 802.1 AVB could be a better solution. End personal opinion Pete
Quote from: admin on January 15, 2020, 06:24:09 PMhttps://www.soundonsound.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=19&t=69598&p=643952&hilit=#p641515Thunderbolt 2 goes the way of firewirePostby Howdy Doody Time » Wed Jan 01, 2020 12:30 pmSo my MBP having only USB3 ports, always needs a cable or hub to attach anything except USB3 things. I Have a very reliable MOTU firewire interface and I have been using a Thunderbolt to firewire adapter on my old MBP. On the new one cannot find a hub with Thunderbolt (2) because it's obsolete. Luckily I found a USB3 to Thunderbolt 2 adapter, which I'm hoping to plug a thunderbolt 2 to Firewire adapter into. The USB 3 to Thunderbolt 2 cable was 40 quid and fifty pence, I forget how much the Thunderbolt 2 to firewire cable was.So thats USB 3 to Thunderbolt 2 to Firewire. It may not even work, but I'll find out.I suspect many Apple users will be a little miffed if they have to chuck out their thunderbolt 2 gear, so soon after chucking out their firewire gear.Here's another little strangeness. I was running Reason 11 on the 2018 MB last night and all was well. Then I needed to run Apogee Maestro 2 (just freshly downloaded) and in the middle of successfully using Quartet to run Reason 11, Maestro calmly reports that there is no Apogee Quartet attached. No? you mean apart from the one that's running flawlessly?For goodness sake, what is going on at Apple.
QuoteThe UFX+ can no longer be manufactured because Intel ended the production of the required TB chips long ago. We used our stock to continue building UFX+, but stock is gone now.To answer an expected next question: We were ready to change to a newer chip with Thunderbolt 3 support (fully developed new digital board), but Intel delayed its shipment (chip crisis) for a long time. Then when the chip was expected to be shipped Intel declared it EOL (end of life). Beginning a production using this chip made no sense anymore.
Quote from: Elantric on November 19, 2023, 09:37:52 AMFwiw, Thunderbolt Audio Interfaces have essentially been orphaned.RME no longer makes Thunderbolt Audio interfaces because the Intel Thunderbolt tranciever IC was discontinued in 2019https://forum.rme-audio.de/viewtopic.php?pid=192364#p192364And support for Firewire Interfaces ceased a decade ago RME Support wrote ( may 2022)