Boss SY-1000 F.A.Q.
Started by Mr.DeeR, March 02, 2023, 12:34:28 AM
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Quote from: Mr.DeeR on March 02, 2023, 03:33:50 AMTo have one master volume for the midi and piezo pickup but send their signal in a separate path.Which brings me to my second question. I would like to skip the toggle switch and I am trying to find some guidance how to install the GK pickup without it.
QuotelThe Boss / Roland GK-3 converts your guitar notes into MIDI data, and using a standard 13 pin connection, triggers MIDI audio from one of their devices - such as the GP-10, or the older VG-99, or the GR-55." "The above is flat wrong !"
QuoteIt's not a Midi pickup or Midi system or a synth Mic.The PU itself has nothing to do with midi.It is a hexaphonic humbucker (note analog microphone), 1 magnet per string, which is used to send signals from separate strings, for example, to a guitar synth/instrument modeler such as the SY-1000, which is based on real-time modeling, or a hexaphonic fuzz/dist such as Spicetonehttps://liveweb.spicetone.com/6appeal/Or to a converter for guitar to Midi or to play PCM sampling etc.
Quote from: Brak(E)man on March 02, 2023, 05:22:22 AMImho you should reconsider having the toogle Normal PU / Mix / Hexaphonic PU.It's very handy, I'd say especially with SY-1000. So be sure before you leave it out.In any case, good luck with your project.Also not to be nitpicking but to avoid any confusion.The "midi" pickup you're referring to has nothing to do with midi.It's an analogue hexaphonic magnetic Pickup that can be used in various manners.See thread https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=14088.0https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?msg=101908
Quote from: gumtown on March 02, 2023, 03:30:33 PMWhat I have done in the past with a GK-Kit toggle switch is to leave it connected in the "both" position, and tucked into the guitar cavity.That way, you wont lose the switch and connector if required later.
Quote from: Mr.DeeR on March 03, 2023, 12:27:14 AMI have two reason to object to this. 1. I really hate installing new knobs and switches on my instrument. I just can't stand the look of it. Guitars with too many controls look "offensive" to me. 2. My amp can handle to input. I want to run my normal guitar rig and SY-1000 in a separate channel.I don't think the toggle switch would add much benefit to my setup. Unless I am missing something?Also, thanks for the correction and apologies for my ignorance. I am just starting out my journey in the world of midi and not familiar with the technical details yet.
Quote from: Brak(E)man on March 03, 2023, 02:49:14 AMIf you at some point find ( as many of us do ) that SY-1000 can uphold both the synth side and well as being your guitarrig (see normal path and instrument/synth paths) ( instead of your current guitar rig ), you'll find that switching between the guitar rig in SY and the synth/instruments modeling side or mix both is very convenient.I for one do not use a normal rig and I've been playing professionally live since -76 , so I grew up with old school guitar rigs ( Marshall, fender etc ) and didn't switch over until I got vg-8 in the late 90ths . Before that I also used a midi guitar ( casio mg 510 guitar which does put out midi straight from the guitar ( the PU is still a analog hexaphonic PU though ) , still have it ) with synths + 3 guitar amps + a small PA.I find that I don't need it and have not played with a "real " amp since I got the VG8Also you don't have to apologize for not knowing.I was trying to clarify both for you but also mainly for others who might read the thread and not being aware of the difference with the "midi" PU.You're not alone though, most guitar players but also people who sells this stuff and or are in customer support doesn't know the difference which is remarkable to say the least.Most guitar players associate midi ( or pcm ) triggering with latency, glitches etc where as the current technology with real time non midi modeling have almost zero latency and not many issues with the latter.
Quote from: Mr.DeeR on March 03, 2023, 06:40:13 AMIt is the connector CN4 where the S1/S2 and the toggle switch is connected to. Since I don't want to install those parts I decided to disconnect them. ( I can always add them back later). According to the schematic I found I should only keep those wires I mentioned before.
Quote from: admin on March 03, 2023, 07:34:12 AMIn that case, just do not connect anything to connector CN4 The circuit acts by referencing to ground the unselected position of 3-way Guitar /Mix/ Synth switch - leaving it unconnected results in " Mix " position If do not want S1/ S2- = no connection to CN4GC-1 schematic is herehttps://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=133.0;attach=17948https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=73.0