GR-55 - 5 pin midi to 13 pin?

Started by gearhound22, May 15, 2018, 04:18:13 PM

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gearhound22

Hi there,

Working on a rig but unfortunately the GR-55 doesn't allow the midi in to trigger the sound module.

Curious if using a FTP into the FC-1 and then 5pin midi out using a custom cable could go into the 13 pin in on the GR-55 and work?

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Quote from: gearhound22 on May 15, 2018, 04:18:13 PM
Hi there,

Working on a rig but unfortunately the GR-55 doesn't allow the midi in to trigger the sound module.

Curious if using a FTP into the FC-1 and then 5pin midi out using a custom cable could go into the 13 pin in on the GR-55 and work?

Still not possible


if you enjoy the GR-55 PCM tones - same PCM Tones can also be found in the Roland SD-50 Mobile Studio Canvas

- and that unit Does allow triggering its PCM tones via 5 pin MIDI
https://www.roland.com/global/products/mobile_studio_canvas/


gumtown

13 pin system is NOT MIDI
It is an analog hexaphonic pickup system, where each strings analog pickup audio is carried into the GR-55 for per/string processing.

The device you are wanting is a 5 pin midi in to 13 pin hex out sound module with just a 6 channel guitar tone generator.
Free "GR-55 FloorBoard" editor software from https://sourceforge.net/projects/grfloorboard/

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Quote from: gumtown on May 15, 2018, 05:33:05 PM

The device you are wanting is a 5 pin midi in to 13 pin hex out sound module with just a 6 channel guitar tone generator.

AFAIK a device like that is Not available anywhere

gumtown

Free "GR-55 FloorBoard" editor software from https://sourceforge.net/projects/grfloorboard/

gearhound22

thanks for the replies!

Does that ROland device have the same guitar modelling tech that the GR55 does? Man I wish you could just trigger the internal sounds via midi with the 55.....I wonder if there is anyway to hack this? lol

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Quote from: gearhound22 on May 16, 2018, 07:39:15 PM
thanks for the replies!

Does that Roland device have the same guitar modelling tech that the GR55 does? Man I wish you could just trigger the internal sounds via midi with the 55.....I wonder if there is anyway to hack this? lol

The GR-55 includes a dual PCM Synth engine - shared with the SD-50 Mobile Canvas above.

But the GR-55 also employs a separate function COSM "VGuitar" Modeling - shared with VG-8, VG-88, VG-99, GP-10 ( and missing on other Roland/Boss units)

MIDI can never trigger these sounds as the actual guitar strings are employed as the signal source

details

https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=14088.0



https://www.roland.com/us/support/knowledge_base/201922959/
DIFFERENCES BETWEEN GUITAR SYNTHESIZERS AND THE VG-8 VGuitar

The VG-8 / VG-88 V-Guitar is not a guitar synthesizer like the GR-09, GR-1 or
GR-30/33, or a Guitar-to-MIDI Converter like the GI-10. In the GR-Series and
the GI-10, the signal from the GK-2A pickup (which is analogous to a standard
pickup signal for each string) is converted to a pitch which is then available
to trigger a sound, either internally (GR-09, GR-1, GR-30) or through MIDI.
This makes these units ideal for sequencing and playing realistic sounds like
pianos, organs or drums.

On the VG-8 / VG-88,GP-10 the signal from the GK-2A / GK-3 hex Pickup is modified in realtime into an
entirely new sound which allows all of your picking and playing techniques to
be preserved. The VG-8/ VG-88 does not transmit MIDI note numbers, nor does it
act as a MIDI sound module. Although the VG-8 / VG-88 has the ability to modify
the guitar sound into unique sounds (like a synthesizer would), there is
absolutely none of the tracking delay normally associated with guitar synths
because the sound of the guitar is modified in real time. The VG-8 / VG-88 is
unsurpassed in creating a multitude of authentic guitar tones which would
previously only be attainable by purchasing a truckload of different guitars,
amps and speakers.