Mooer GE200 Amp Modeler / Multi FX

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When I received it, it had only about 30-40 patches. I think it may have been missing amps and effects (can't remember). I reset it and same thing. I then did an upgrade on the firmware to 1.01 and boom, lot more patches and it definitely sounded must better. BTW, their Tech Support rocks! I asked a question on upgrading the unit and got an answer right back and in perfect English.

That all being said, I don't like not having an UNDO on the looper even though I like the looper. I want a Univibe for that Jimi Sound. I want OSX software. Just to name a few.

It sounds a lot better into the front of my amp (Peavey Classic 20) then running into the effects loop, no matter how I have it setup. My biggest complaint is it does metal and clean much better than light crunch. I have a hard time getting to the middle ground. I can adjust the input level and get there but then going from dirty to clean and I have to readjust the input level. Not even taking into account going from humbucker to single coil.

I can say I like the interface better than the Helix I owned (much better design). I like the looper better than my RC3 (- Undo). I like the drum sounds a hell of a lot better than the Trio ever thought about. I like how you can navigate to a new patch without switching. I like how easy it is to setup effects to turn on and off and be assigned to the foot switches. I like the no pop between switching.

I think it's a good unit for what it is (which is not a Helix, that was a bad AD on someones part). Your not getting a Helix or AX-FX for $300. Stop dreaming!! It's more a step up from a GT-1. I honestly believe it just needs some firmware tweaks and could be a great unit. Question really is how long for them to make those tweaks? Mooer knows how to program DSPs and they know sound. To me, it looks like it was rushed to market which is not uncommon. OSIAMO is the US distributor. I told Ed there what I thought and asked him to pass it along. He said he would.

Just my personal thoughts,
Mike


Elantric

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https://www.facebook.com/groups/MooerAudioGE200/permalink/239232539943955/

Mooer GE200 WishList HighLights
Please, add a simple footswitch mode for use the 3 switches to recall 3 different patches!

It hate to scroll presets live and this solution will be *perfect* for all the people like me that can use only 3 sounds for the whole set (for example: clean / rhythm / solo).
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FIX ZIPPER NOISE WHEN ADJUSTING DELAY TIME WITH MERGE.

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Load, Save, Export all, not just a patch at a time in the software.

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After working with it yesterday I find I would like: # Ability to set the volume pedal to a minimum & Maximum % # Live mode instead of preset only. Live mode allowing for footswitches to all be able to turn on/off effect blocks. # Better acoustic sounds. # Delay is clicking when setting tap tempo.

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Not seeing a live mode vs preset mode. I'd like to see this similar to the red truck which has both preset and live mode. Sadly the red truck doesn't have amps. This does, but less footswitches.

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The ability to have separate Cabs or IRs left and right. I have not actually received my unit yet, but one of the downsides of my line 6 Helix is that it does not have a polyphonic pitch shifter. I know that would take up a ton of DSP, but it would be awesome to have. I am also not sure yet if the GE 200 has the ability to put the Looper at the beginning of the chain (pre effects) or at the end. It is nice to create a loop before the effects so you can just play it back as you adjust your effects parameters. That way you don't have to keep changing knobs and playing back and forth.

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If it doesn't in fact have an intelligent pitch shifter (i'm still waiting for my question to clear, anyone home?!?) that would be an absolute necessity.

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Shimmer, please!










Mooer GE200 Manual
http://www.mooeraudio.com/upload/manual/multi_effects/GE200_Manual_EN.pdf

vs

Boss GT-1 Owners Manual
https://static.roland.com/assets/media/pdf/GT-1_e01_W.pdf

Boss GT-1 Parameter Guide
https://static.roland.com/assets/media/pdf/GT-1_parameter_e01.pdf

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Elantric

#31


In regards to the 1st video above
I really wish these folks who create online Youtube reviews would get a clue and avoid simply using the  on camera (smartphone) mic  for the audio capture in these youtube videos


( Listen at 2:06 minutes )The room mic is always picking up the  initial "click"  of the pick hitting the string  , thus masking the unit under review's initial note response characteristics  = in other words based on the video above, its impossible to know what the GE200 would sound like in a direct to board recording studio situation or heard in the FOH PA when used direct to the Mix board   = real world use - instead of these "clickiy"clicky" bedroom iphone recordings 


The  video below  reveals a bit more care in post production, and sounds like the actual GE200 unit direct to the recorder - without the room mic, and no "Pick attack click" from a room mic on every note   


read more
http://tonereport.com/blogs/lifestyle/tips-for-making-your-own-youtube-demo-video

Avoid camera microphones: The previous tip was made under the assumption that a proper recording microphone is being used to capture the sound of the amplifier, but unfortunately, this is often not the case with gear demos. Many are recorded with built-in video camera or (cringe) smartphone microphones, and the results are rarely useful. Besides not sounding acceptable, these mikes are typically easily distorted. They also tend to pick up more of the acoustic sound of the guitar being strummed in the room, rather than the actual sound of the amplified guitar emanating from the speaker cabinet.





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Hi friends,GE200 will have a firmware update around Christmas including CHANGE all the CAB & MIC with new algorithms.RightNow if you feeling the tone are dark in GE200 you can try turn the distance of CAB over 50% see what's happen,just don't care the value and actual MIC distance.another thing is if you want check how's the preamp of GE200,highly recommend just use the AMP model to a real power AMP.HOPE it's helpful....Cheers!

MooerAudio Leo Wang

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Sitedrifter

Sh1t I can't get away from this pedal.  I owned it for a day and returned it over keeping my Digitech RP360XP as in it's (mooer ge200) initial firmware state my Digitech sounded a bit better. I only paid $230 for it so I did not lose more than 15 bucks selling it on reverb. My RP360 died so I opted for the GT001 and WITHOUT a doubt, the GT001 smashes the Mooer pedal and even if the Mooer has IR and an expression pedal. The GE200 in it's current form should sell new for $249 no more but that is only because it has IR capability.



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QuoteSh1t I can't get away from this pedal.  I owned it for a day and returned it over keeping my Digitech RP360XP as in it's (mooer ge200) initial firmware state my Digitech sounded a bit better. I only paid $230 for it so I did not lose more than 15 bucks selling it on reverb. My RP360 died so I opted for the GT001 and WITHOUT a doubt, the GT001 smashes the Mooer pedal and even if the Mooer has IR and an expression pedal. The GE200 in it's current form should sell new for $249 no more but that is only because it has IR capability.

Thanks for the review -

We share the same thoughts re GT-001 vs GE200

Maybe if Mooer introduces a new version with an FX Loop and smart Harmonizer ,Low Latency ASIO USB Drivers,  ( GE400)  - they might entice me .


In fact I find more use for my $199 Boss GT-1

Sitedrifter

The GE200 is not MAC compatible meaning you need a PC to update firmware. Supposedly they are coming out with a new firmware sometime this month that is going to fix the dry/lifeless tones it has and also Mac software too. Time will tell!
The GE200 does not have drivers for Windows so you need to use Asio4all or Windows WaveRT which are not bad but not optimized for specific equipment like custom drivers are. I had trouble making it work with Mixcraft 8 but I did get it to work albeit had to fiddle with things each time I started Mixcraft or rebooted the PC. The problem was with the generic USB drive the GE200 was assigned by Windows.


I keep saying to myself, I will buy this rig (GE200)again if the firmware fixes things but I then use my GT001 and say to myself, am I crazy, the GT001 relieves all thoughts of owning the GE200.




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Smash

Looks lovely. Sounds totally meh.

briandsocal

think it sounds better than an iphone running tonestack through an interface?

Elantric

https://www.thegearpage.net/board/index.php?posts/25793340/
QuoteI took apart the Mooer GE200 and it has a Analog Devices Sharc 21489 DSP in it.

Is this DSP, good, bad, average? I wonder how it fairs up to other MFX units DSPs?

Anyone have ideas on this little DSP?


http://www.analog.com/en/products/processors-dsp/sharc/adsp-21489.html#product-overview
Features and Benefits
450 MHz core clock speed
5 Mbits of on-chip RAM
FIR, IIR, and FFT accelerators
16-bit wide SDR SDRAM external memory interface
Digital Applications Interface (DAI) enabling user-definable access to peripherals including an S/P DIF Tx/Rx, and 8-channel asynchronous sample rate converter
Fully enhanced DMA engine including scatter/gather DMA, delay line DMA
8 serial ports (SPORTs) supporting I2S, left-justified sample pair, DSP Serial and TDM modes
2 SPI-compatible ports supporting master and slave modes
UART and Two-Wire Interface
16 Pulse Width Modulation (PWM) channels
3 full-featured timers
176 ld LQFP EPAD and 100 ld LQFP EPAD packages
$15 /ea
http://www.analog.com/en/products/processors-dsp/sharc/adsp-21489.html#product-samplebuy


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waiting the GE500 with dual amp chain, effects spillover carryover trail,high resolution capacity IR, midi and one loop send return  ;D

admin

https://www.thegearpage.net/board/index.php?threads/ge200-serious-bug-firmware-v1-2-2.1971067/

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Calling all GE-200 owners. We have an urgent and unfortunate announcement to make.
We have found a serious bug within our recent release of firmware V1.2.2
This bug could potentially cause hardware failure if used for a long period of time.

To avoid damage to your GE-200....
If you have already upgraded to V1.2.2 then please download the previous firmware V1.2.0 or V1.2.1 and downgrade your machine as soon as possible.
http://www.mooeraudio.com/?FirmwareUpdate.html

If you have not updated the firmware, DO NOT attempt to update to V1.2.2
We have removed V1.2.2 from our website and are working to repair the issue for re-release.

Apologies and best regards
Thanks

MOOER SUPPORT TEAM