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Title: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: Elantric on February 20, 2014, 09:57:50 AM
 it can power my FX pedal Board and USB Hub for iPad.

http://www.amazon.com/Poweradd-trade-Pilot-Pro-Multi-Voltage/dp/B00DN0KBXU/ref=sr_1_17?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1392917203&sr=1-17 (http://www.amazon.com/Poweradd-trade-Pilot-Pro-Multi-Voltage/dp/B00DN0KBXU/ref=sr_1_17?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1392917203&sr=1-17)
$139
Poweradd™ Pilot Pro 32000mAh Monster Capacity Multi-Voltage (5V 9V 12V 16V 19V 20V) Portable Charger External Battery Backup Power Bank with Smart LCD Digital Display for Tablet PC, Netbooks, Notebooks, Laptops, Smart Phones -- Compatible with Acer, Asus, Dell, HP, Lenovo, Sony, Toshiba Notebooks, Google Nexus Tablets, iPads, iPhone 5S, 5C, 5, 4S(Apple Adapters not included) Samsung Galaxy Note 3, Note2, S4, S3 and More Other Devices
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Huge capacity of 32000mAh, Provides 1 DC output for your laptop, and 2 USB port for 5V USB-charged devices.
Various connectors cover major types of laptops and cell phones on the market, DC and USB outputs for charging a laptop and 2 5V USB-charged devices simultaneously, adjustable 5 voltage levels (9V/12V/16V/19V20V) suiting your needs for different laptop models (check detailed compatibility list below).
Stylish and slim aluminum-body ensures good heat dissipation,the smart digital display window makes it easy to regulate voltage and know how much source you've got left. It will automatically shutdown when short circuit or overload output happen to protect your devices.
Made of high quality reliable lithium-ion polymer battery cells, more than 500 recharge cycles during the course of its life.
Package Contents: 1* Poweradd™ Pilot Pro 32000mAh external battery / 3*Mobile phone connector / 10*Notebook connector / 1*USB spring cable / 1*DC cable / 1*AC Adapter / 1x User manual.


Product Description
Poweradd™ - Power your life
Poweradd™ Pilot Pro external battery is specially design for charging laptop and 5V USB-charged devices at the sametime.Smart protection funtions insure safety worry-free usage, portable & lightweight design makes it easy to carry. Ultra high capacity? Charging speed? Emergency charging for your laptop or other devices? Anti-explosion battery? Get all 4 with this Poweradd™ Pilot Pro.

Compatible Model:
10 notebook connectors included(outer x inner diameter in mm), Please check the model, size, voltage and power of your original adapter to ensure compatibility before purchaasing.
A: 6.00*1.40 - for Sony VAIO
B: 6.25*3.00 - for Toshiba Satellite A105, M35
C: 5.50*2.10 - for Acer Aspire 1200 / Toshiba T1950, T4700
D: 4.75*1.70 - for ASUS Eee 900, 1000
E: 5.50*1.70 - for Acer Aspire One AO722 AO725
G: 4.0*1.70 - for HP Mini 1000/ 1100 Series
H: 5.0*3.25 - for Samsung N130, N310
I: 3 Pin - for Dell
J: 7.40*5.00 - for Dell inspiron 1525, E1505 / HP Pavilion DV6, 550, G60, Compaq CQ 60 and more other Dell or HP models
K: 7.90*5.40 - for ThinkPad T60, X60, R60

SPEC:
--Battery Type: Lithium-ion Polymer
--Capacity: 32000mAh/118.4Wh
--Input: DC 15V ~ 24V/2A
--Output1: DC 9V,12V,16V,19V,20V/4.5A
USB1: 5V/2.1A (MAX)
USB2: 5V/1A (MAX)

Kindly Note:
Please adjust to the corresponding voltage before charging your laptop.

Product Details
Product Dimensions: 7.3 x 4.8 x 1.1 inches ; 1.8 pounds
Shipping Weight: 3.2 pounds (View shipping rates and policies)
ASIN: B00DN0KBXU
Item model number: Pilot Pro
Warranty Policy:
12 months worry-free product guarantee from Poweradd™.
Proffessional technical support, Efficient and always satisfied customer service all the year round.



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Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: mbenigni on February 20, 2014, 11:20:55 AM
Cool!  Let me know how you make out.

32,000mAh!
Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: Elantric on February 20, 2014, 01:12:15 PM
Quote32,000mAh!
Output1: DC 9V,12V,16V,19V,20V/4.5A

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I  use a Polarity reversing cable

I will see how long the GR-55 can go.

It all comes down to the actual Total current draw of all connected devices being powered.

I'l give a review once I spend time with it with real world tests.

But I'm focused on having a truly portable battery powered Guitar setup - using iPAd running Bias +VoiceLive  Touch2 + a few iStomps and a MIDI controller and FTP with a separate iPad running Sampltank.   

There is a much lower noise floor when using battery power - particularly when using single coil pickups, and Battery power helps with Audio Ground isolation for a safer shockfree stage environment too. 
Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: tomtheguitarguy on February 22, 2014, 07:45:25 AM
Q(Ah) = Q(mAh) / 1000, so it's more like 32amp in an hour - or ideally 3.2 amps for 10 hours?

Or is my math off?
Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: Elantric on February 22, 2014, 08:30:29 AM
You are right!, correction noted and post edited.
Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: Elantric on February 22, 2014, 05:56:53 PM
This is amazing!

I might get a spare

a few reviews
http://youtu.be/_ecn_0yUGJg (http://youtu.be/_ecn_0yUGJg)

http://youtu.be/VP8bhySxn40 (http://youtu.be/VP8bhySxn40)
Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: rcf1956 on February 25, 2014, 04:10:23 PM
These power packs will likely contain a number of cells in series, with a nominal voltage (usually a multiple of 3.7) at the rated 32000mAh; this will then either be stepped up or regulated down to supply the various other voltage options. Some power/efficiency will be lost in the conversion; therefore dividing the rated 32000mAh by the total current draw of your various gadgets/effects can give you a misleading result ...when it comes to working out how long a full charge might last?
Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: Elantric on February 25, 2014, 04:12:45 PM
Output1: DC 9V,12V,16V,19V,20V/4.5A
Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: rcf1956 on February 25, 2014, 04:47:28 PM
Thanks Elantric,

I'd still love to know the actual rating (voltage/capacity) of the cells in the powerpack and which of the quoted voltages are stepped up or regulated down? Haven't managed to find a manual yet; does look like a good unit though. I do have a few power packs of a lesser capacity which I find very useful. I have also used a couple of Dimension Engineering AnyVolt 3's to build portable power supplies for various synth and effects units.
Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: Elantric on February 25, 2014, 05:38:57 PM
I'll see if I can open it up and post some internal pics soon.

Seems to be very well sealed!


 
Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: rcf1956 on February 28, 2014, 04:43:27 AM
Thanks for having a look ...I'm tempted anyway; it would certainly be an improvement on my 15000mAh model.   ;)
Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: Elantric on June 05, 2014, 07:54:37 PM
Update

This Poweradd Pilot Pro LE-030 32000mAh Multi-Voltage External Battery works very well - works with GR-55 and GP-10
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Use the included Black Poweradd Pilot Pro DC coax power cable (shown above) and then all that is required in addition to make a killer long lasting battery powered pedal board are:


1 ) Visual Sound CYR Converter for One Spot Power Supply with Reverse Polarity - to make the 2.1mm coax DC jack negative tip.
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004EBG5QE/ref=oh_details_o05_s00_i01?ie=UTF8&psc=1 (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004EBG5QE/ref=oh_details_o05_s00_i01?ie=UTF8&psc=1)
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or
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2) Visual Sound One Spot Multi Plug 8 Cable
http://www.amazon.com/Visual-Sound-Spot-Multi-Cable/dp/B000XXBHA6/ref=pd_cp_MI_3 (http://www.amazon.com/Visual-Sound-Spot-Multi-Cable/dp/B000XXBHA6/ref=pd_cp_MI_3)
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3) Connect all above to power your FX Stomp pedals
This Pedal Train board works well
http://www.amazon.com/Pedaltrain-Pedalboard-With-Soft-Case/dp/B001G3TJXO/ref=sr_1_1?s=musical-instruments&ie=UTF8&qid=1402023194&sr=1-1&keywords=pedal+board (http://www.amazon.com/Pedaltrain-Pedalboard-With-Soft-Case/dp/B001G3TJXO/ref=sr_1_1?s=musical-instruments&ie=UTF8&qid=1402023194&sr=1-1&keywords=pedal+board)
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Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: mbenigni on June 06, 2014, 08:00:24 AM
FWIW I'm still getting along nicely with my PedalTrain Volto, although the Poweradd package does look like a better value.
Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: IanRamos on July 18, 2014, 11:55:26 AM
Hi  there !
Sorry if that's a stupid question , but i'm totally clueless about the subject .

Would it be possible to feed a G5 vg strat with one of those , so i can use it for more than 3 hours ?
if so , i would have no problem in route a hole in the body to put one of those amazing batteries .

Thanks !
Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: admin on July 18, 2014, 01:11:12 PM
Maybe,

But this thing weighs a bit and would prove a source of fatigue if you had to use it with a guitar.
Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: IanRamos on July 18, 2014, 01:15:51 PM
is it so heavy  ?
i would have to route the body quite a bit to fit it , i think that would help with the weight ...
plus , those strats are almost empty due to the massive electronics ...
Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: Elantric on July 18, 2014, 01:55:37 PM
Quoteis it so heavy  ?

Yes - 3.3 pounds!

You are aware of the official Roland CN-2 Power Cable for VG Strat / G5 ?

http://www.roland.com/products/en/CN-1/ (http://www.roland.com/products/en/CN-1/)


But try a smaller battery pack

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Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: IanRamos on July 19, 2014, 12:41:36 AM
Oh ok , sorry , i didn't see the weight in the first post ...

well , that's about 1 kilo , usually a guitar is around 3 kilos , so i still think is not that much , considering that those modeling guitars are almost empty inside , so usually are a lot lighter than a normal guitar ...

Thanks for that CN-2 link Elantrinc , i didn't knew that device .
Still , to me , it defies the purpose of getting a G-5 instead of , for instance , a GP-10 , which is to use it with my wireless system .
Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: Norbitt on July 21, 2014, 12:19:40 PM
Please excuse my ignorance--I know nothing about electronics. So all I would need is the Poweradd Pilot Pro LE-030 32000mAh and the Visual Sound CYR Converter to power the GP-10? I don't use a Pedal Board. No need to be concerned with amperage(?), millamps(?), etc.?

Thanks,
Bob
Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: Elantric on July 21, 2014, 12:24:22 PM
QuotePlease excuse my ignorance--I know nothing about electronics. So all I would need is the Poweradd Pilot Pro LE-030 32000mAh and the Visual Sound CYR Converter to power the GP-10?

Correct! Set the Poweradd Pilot Pro LE-030 to output 9VDC, then use the included Black Coax to Coax cable to connect to the LE-030's DC OUT, then connect other end of black cable to the Visual Sound CYR Reverse DC  Polarity Converter's inline female jack,  and connect  Visual Sound CYR's green right angle DC plug into the GP-10 - it will run over 10 hours.
Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: Elantric on August 01, 2014, 10:57:08 AM
FWIW -  this smaller $50 battery pack below works better than Sanyo PedalJuice for 9VDC Pedal board use 
http://us.sanyo.com/Pedal-Juice (http://us.sanyo.com/Pedal-Juice)

XTPower 10000mAh External Battery Pack can provide 5VDC, 9VDC, 12VDC output)

Compared to Poweradd Pilot Pro LE-030 32000mAh ,  XTPower 10000mAh External Battery Pack  is 1/3rd the available current but its less than 1/2 the size! 

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B00935L44E/ref=cm_cr_arp_mb_bdcrb_top?ie=UTF8


XTPower 10000mAh External Battery Pack (Dual USB Output 5V plus DC Output 9V / 12V 2A)

(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/413-jCbFS3L._AC_SY580_.jpg)

With Battery power, I'm enjoying the liberation of immunity from HF Switching Noise from modern "earth friendly / green" wal-wart  power supplies, and  faster setup / teardown time at open mic night

Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: musicman65 on August 01, 2014, 11:11:45 AM
Yeah...but how's the tone? Does it sound better than "old skool led" batteries or even alkalines???

LOL....sorry, I couldn't resist. Of course, I'm kidding although older analog pedals do sound slightly different when powered at various voltages.
Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: alancarl on January 03, 2015, 11:08:33 AM
Quote from: Elantric on August 01, 2014, 10:57:08 AM
FWIW -  this smaller $50 battery pack below works better than Sanyo PedalJuice for 9VDC Pedal board use 
http://us.sanyo.com/Pedal-Juice (http://us.sanyo.com/Pedal-Juice)

XTPower 10000mAh External Battery Pack can provide 5VDC, 9VDC, 12VDC output)

Compared to Poweradd Pilot Pro LE-030 32000mAh ,  XTPower 10000mAh External Battery Pack  is 1/3rd the available current but its less than 1/2 the size! 
http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00935L44E/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1 (http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00935L44E/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1)
XTPower 10000mAh External Battery Pack (Dual USB Output 5V plus DC Output 9V / 12V 2A)

[img width=681 height=600]http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/61d%2BkFcn04L._SL1500_.jpg[/

Hi everybody,
      Even though this is an older thread I thought that my thoughts about this were better placed here as opposed to starting a new thread.
My question is pertaining to the XTPower 10000 ma battery pack.
Does anybody know if this device is constructed from multiple individual 3vdc(approximately)cells?

I was investigated an Ankertek external power device and when I spoke with tech support I learned that the higher voltage outputs were derived with the use of a voltage doubler type charge pump device.
I have found that some of these devices and their associated ripple create noise artifacts with some of my higher gain type devices.
So if Steve or anybody with experience and or knowledge of the quaity of the DC output of the XTPower battery pack could enlighten me I'll be then enlightened  ;D
Thanks
Al
Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: Elantric on January 03, 2015, 11:14:49 AM
I get very clean DC voltage output from XTPower and Poweradd battery packs when run at 9VDC and 12VDC

Both are very well sealed  ( not going to tear them apart - until I need too to fix something - but these have been working very well !
Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: alancarl on January 03, 2015, 12:09:14 PM
Cool Steve,
       I'm going to get them now!
GAS lives on here ;D
FWIW some years ago I rigged up a battery guitar synth rig with a AA NiMhi pack, GI-20, and an original Ipad with SampleTank.
I totally get the use for a battery operated pedalboard/gtrsynth/LED lighting rig!
Thanks for sharing all of your discoveries and insights from your journey through the modern myriad of GEAR!
Peace,
AL
Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: Elantric on January 03, 2015, 12:51:53 PM
QuoteThanks for sharing all of your discoveries and insights from your journey through the modern myriad of GEAR!

You are welcome  - but like U2 sang years ago:

"i still haven't found what I'm looking for"

But documenting the journey has been fun

QuoteI totally get the use for a battery operated pedalboard/gtrsynth/LED lighting rig!

Its a dramatic reduction in Single Coil Hum when you use 100% Battery powered Guitar Rig then a passive DI box into the PA   
Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: alancarl on January 04, 2015, 04:22:37 AM
And boy do I love my old single coil pickups!!
To my ears there's nothing quite like them ;D
Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: ktat on April 30, 2016, 05:03:50 PM
I know this probably deserves a new thread, but I'd love to power a gp-10 and a pigtronix infinity looper simultaneously. The problem being the infinity is 18v. Any thoughts or solutions for that?
Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: Elantric on April 30, 2016, 05:07:23 PM
In that situation I use two Poweradd pilot pros

One set at 9v for GP-10 and a second one set to 19V for pigtronix looper

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Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: ktat on April 30, 2016, 05:47:14 PM
I didn't consider this because of the 19v output versus the 18volts required by the looper.  That mismatch shouldn't bother the infinity?  Thanks for your help
Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: ktat on May 08, 2016, 03:48:44 PM
Well, my new fun solution for the day is replacing the Infinity with a Ditto x4.  Can't wait to get it up and running!

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Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: Elantric on May 11, 2016, 03:26:27 PM
I told Thomas Nordegg about my Poweradd Pilot Pro battery setup, and he made a similar battery powered pedal board setup for Steve Vai - who used at a gig in Rio last year

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Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: mchad on June 10, 2016, 03:33:24 PM

Great thread. Handy info here. Thanks.

One question please. Are these chargers allowed on planes? I've got a feeling a certain type are not.
Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: Elantric on June 10, 2016, 03:40:26 PM
QuoteAre these chargers allowed on planes?
Follow these instructions
http://www.dronethusiast.com/traveling-with-lipo-batteries-drone/ (http://www.dronethusiast.com/traveling-with-lipo-batteries-drone/)
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/71o4nYrzbmL._SL1000_.jpg)
Here's A Unique Tip for Traveling With Phantom 4 LiPO Batteries

Today's Tip.

How to transport P4 batteries easily through airports.

If you travel internationally frequently, print a copy of this certification for safe transport of goods by air for the P4 battery and you will have no issue going through TSA and onto airplane.

Enjoy and safe flying.

Lynh Phan

p 4 battery travel

Continued Travelling with LiPO Batteries Guide

What I can clearly make out of the language available here, the main changes are as follows (although the documents state that the regulation is for cargo):
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Batteries must be offered for transport at a state of charge (SoC) not to exceed 30% of their rated design capacity. This means that you need to deplete your batteries before you attempt to transport them which is a good idea regardless of the mode of travel (as a package or on board a passenger aircraft).
A shipper is not permitted to present for transport more than one (1) package prepared according to Section II in any single consignment. Obviously, this regulates shipping, but there could be a situation where this will apply to our LiPo batteries as well.
The Australian Civil Aviation Safety Authority (CASA) has created a video that should be useful if you travel elsewhere and includes some basic instructions. At the same time, a certain level of flexibility is exercised before the changes take place but that is totally up to the discretion of the authorities on ground wherever you travel. I would also suggest that as opposed to what the video states, a LiPo safe bag is necessary if you want the travel with your drone batteries, I would not use the simple plastic bag shown in the video below:

Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: mchad on June 10, 2016, 03:57:39 PM

The CASA video.

http://youtu.be/jvxS3-0QzT4?list=UU3ytY1MCWiwMiSyO414izow (http://youtu.be/jvxS3-0QzT4?list=UU3ytY1MCWiwMiSyO414izow)
Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: Elantric on August 31, 2016, 10:06:47 AM
Steve Vai's pedal board with PowerAdd Pilot Pro ( Digitech WhammyDT)
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Thomas Nordegg's shop
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Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: Elantric on October 12, 2016, 09:30:41 AM
More info on alternative power supplies

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http://www.thegearpage.net/board/index.php?posts/22814124/

Buleriachk wrote>
FWIW, you can power the GT-1, GT-100, GR-55, GP-10 (and Boss pedals, and JS-10, BR-600/800, etc.) from a USB port using the following:

PROVIDED you use a polarity switcher, since Boss units (PSA, One-S pot, etc.) are negative center, positive sleeve)

5v-9v transformer
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01AY3XLEY/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o04_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61XTnN%2Bvt4L._SL1200_.jpg)



Polarity switcher:
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B004EBG5QE/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/511xAod7zVL._SL1000_.jpg)



(I powered everything from a battery power bank ($13) as well, except the JS-10, which I think needs more current..

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00P7N0320/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51puhByakeL._SL1000_.jpg)



I'm going to test it with a bigger bank tomorrow. After you turn it on, disconnect the bank and then re-connect is sometimes necessary, but everything fired up OK. But REMEMBER to get the polarity switcher...!!!

of course, the Ripcord should be available sometime in the near future.... maybe....

http://myvolts.com/Ripcord_Pledge_Calculator
Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: Elantric on February 01, 2017, 12:37:44 PM
identical performance and form  factor Alternative to PowerAdd Pilot Pro

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/5157nWd6ySL._SL1000_.jpg)
XTPower MP-32000 Power Bank - External Battery with 32000mAh - DC and USB Charger for Laptops, Notebooks, Tablets and Smart Phones - 2 USB 2.1/1A and DC 9V to 20V (important: max. 3A or 60W)
https://www.amazon.com/XTPower-MP-32000-Power-Bank-Notebooks/dp/B00VIB8KAW/ref=sr_1_2?s=wireless&ie=UTF8&qid=1485981366&sr=1-2&keywords=32000mAh
Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: Hurricane on February 01, 2017, 12:52:00 PM
Quote from: Elantric on January 03, 2015, 11:14:49 AM
I get very clean DC voltage output from XTPower and Poweradd battery packs when run at 9VDC and 12VDC

Just your thoughts on this , looks quite the ticket in my corner of the sun belt southern Mojave deseret .

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/wakawaka-base-10-10000-mah-portable-charger-yellow/5580173.p?skuId=5580173 (http://www.bestbuy.com/site/wakawaka-base-10-10000-mah-portable-charger-yellow/5580173.p?skuId=5580173)

http://pisces.bbystatic.com/image2/BestBuy_US/images/products/5580/5580173_sa.jpg;maxHeight=1000;maxWidth=1000 (http://pisces.bbystatic.com/image2/BestBuy_US/images/products/5580/5580173_sa.jpg;maxHeight=1000;maxWidth=1000)
Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: admin on February 01, 2017, 01:13:30 PM
(https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fpisces.bbystatic.com%2Fimage2%2FBestBuy_US%2Fimages%2Fproducts%2F5580%2F5580173_sa.jpg%3BmaxHeight%3D550%3BmaxWidth%3D642&hash=250783fe7e36e4b41de156c24740d7c531fc5853)
WakaWaka - Base 10 10,000 mAh Portable Charger - Yellow
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/wakawaka-base-10-10000-mah-portable-charger-yellow/5580173.p?skuId=5580173

While Solar rechargeable is attractive , its only 10,000mAh  - its only 1/3rd the power of the XTPower or Poweradd 32,000 mAh battery packs
Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: ReniPerez on May 02, 2017, 08:48:17 AM
I recently bought a MixMart 24000mAh Power Bank from Amazon.com which has an AC outlet in addition to two USB ports for charging.

https://www.amazon.com/MixMart-24000mAh-Portable-External-Smartphones/dp/B01HEPTD9W/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1493745012&sr=8-1&keywords=MixMart+24000mAh

I bought this with the idea to power my GP-10 as well as some 9V effect pedals.  I was wondering if anyone has knowledge as to whether I'd be better off going with a power pack that has a DC out instead of an AC outlet. 

The advantage of the MixMart is that I can put a 2-in-1 AC adapter into it and power 9 volt as well as 18 volt devices such as a couple of Pigtronix effects that I have.  With a DC out that has selectable voltages (9V, 12V, 16V, 19V), I'm limited to one voltage but I wonder if having two DC out packs that would supply 9 volt in one and 19 volt in the other would give me better performance than using an AC out with the units power supplies.  It might also reduce all the cabling the power supplies into the AC unit needs as I might be able to use two Trutone multi-plug cables into the the 9 volt and 19 volt packs which should be more compact than all the power supplies.

My main concerns are battery draw and noise quality.  So, 1) would a DC-to-DC pack provide better power efficiency since I'm not converting to AC and then back to DC through all the devices power supplies and 2) would DC-to-DC offer any improvement in signal quality.  The Boss GP-10 seems pretty quiet using the MixMart but if I can save on wire spaghetti by using multi-plug cables as well as improve power efficiency and signal quality, I'd return the MixMart and go with something like two XTPower MP-30000 units which are $90 each compared to the $130 for the MixMart.

NOTE:  I have another switchable voltage battery pack which is geared more towards starting dead car batteries but I've used it to supply extra power to my laptop with no problem.  I had asked Pigtronix if I could use the 19 volt setting on it to power their 18 volt pedals and they said yes.  Unfortunately, I may have gotten the polarity wrong or something else, as I fried my Philosopher King pedal and now need to ship it to Pigtronix to repair.  Would wrong polarity brick an effect unit or might it have been something else like having a lower voltage momentarily?  It doesn't have a 9 volt switch on it so I can't use it with the GP-10 so I'd still need to use another option for battery power.
Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: Elantric on May 02, 2017, 08:56:09 AM
QuoteWould wrong polarity brick an effect unit

Always has, always will


Use multiple battery packs  - allocate separate packs with power hungry gear. (I own 1/2 a dozen battery packs of various sizes / makes/ models) now

Avoid going Battery to AC inverter to AC wall watt to FX unit

That's very inefficient.

Yes wrong DC voltage polarity will kill effects

That's why I use a DC voltage inverter adapter
https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=10662.msg83273#msg83273


Read the whole thread from the top for all details

https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=10662.0
Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: ReniPerez on May 02, 2017, 09:06:27 AM
Thanks Elantric.  I was hoping you'd weigh in seeing as you've had considerable experience with this.  I'll read the link you included and will return the MixMart.  Seeing as you have the Poweradd Pilot Pro, do you have any sense of the XTPower MP-30000?  It's a bit cheaper than the Poweradd Pilot Pro but am I missing something in going with that?
Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: Elantric on May 02, 2017, 09:57:20 AM
Quote from: ReniPerez on May 02, 2017, 09:06:27 AM
Thanks Elantric.  I was hoping you'd weigh in seeing as you've had considerable experience with this.  I'll read the link you included and will return the MixMart.  Seeing as you have the Poweradd Pilot Pro, do you have any sense of the XTPower MP-30000?  It's a bit cheaper than the Poweradd Pilot Pro but am I missing something in going with that?

XTPower, PowerAdd, Eaget, Intucircuit, etc.
These all come from the same chinese factory

XTPower is based in Germany - and serves Europe
https://www.xtpower.de/DC/USB-Power-Bank

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/5157nWd6ySL._SL1000_.jpg)
XTPower MP-32000 Power Bank



iPoweradd is based in USA and serves North America
https://www.ipoweradd.com/collections/power-bank

(https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fimg.photoadd.us%2Fprodimg%2Fpoweradd%2Fproduct%2FMP-3443W_001.jpg&hash=8c3c9d38d62eb4f2435de2397401dd61d1b4c5bc)
PowerAdd PilotPro


https://www.amazon.com/dp/B011BGPUSI


but they each distribute 90% of the same products - sourced from the same chinese factory

http://www.dhgate.com/product/wholesale-original-brand-eaget-pt96-32000mah/395016066.html#s1-0-1b;searl|2553459351
(https://s6.postimg.cc/4hmiq5qtd/EAGET_Powerbank.png)

Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: ReniPerez on May 02, 2017, 10:11:27 AM
Thanks!  I was just viewing the Intocircuit Power Monster 32000mAh on Amazon.com for $89.99.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B011BGPUSI

I think I'm going to go with that one as it seems identical to the Poweradd Pilot Pro.  I've just ordered two Trutone reverse polarity cables, one L6 cable (to try on an HD500) and another Trutone 5-plug cable from Musicians' Friend.  The reverse plugs from MF are only $2.99 while Amazon.com is selling them for over $6.

Thanks again for all your help!
Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: admin on May 02, 2017, 10:57:29 AM
QuoteThanks!  I was just viewing the Intocircuit Power Monster 32000mAh on Amazon.com for $89.99.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B011BGPUSI
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61Tc23UxcuL._SL1200_.jpg)

Yet another rebadged PowerAdd PilotPro
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B011BGPUSI
Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: Hurricane on May 02, 2017, 08:27:37 PM
Quote from: admsustainiac on May 02, 2017, 10:57:29 AM
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/61Tc23UxcuL._SL1200_.jpg)

Yet another rebadged PowerAdd PilotPro
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B011BGPUSI

Do these also need that special cable adapter for the reverse polarity issue ?

I'm about to pull the trigger and it's crunch time .

Thanks to all who have contributed to this thread .

EZ :

HR
Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: ReniPerez on May 03, 2017, 09:31:02 AM
I ordered a couple of reverse polarity cables from Musician's Friend for $2.99 each.  With no tax and free shipping, it seemed like a no brainer.  It seems I fried a Pigronix pedal by not paying attention to the polarity so this time I'll check the polarity of the power out on the battery pack using a voltmeter before sticking a cable in.  If it's a rebrand of the Poweradd Pilot Pro, then I would think it'll be the same situation which means you'll need the reverse polarity cable.  Why take a chance?
Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: Hurricane on May 03, 2017, 09:19:52 PM
Quote from: ReniPerez on May 03, 2017, 09:31:02 AM
I ordered a couple of reverse polarity cables from Musician's Friend for $2.99 each.  With no tax and free shipping, it seemed like a no brainer.  It seems I fried a Pigronix pedal by not paying attention to the polarity so this time I'll check the polarity of the power out on the battery pack using a voltmeter before sticking a cable in.  If it's a rebrand of the Poweradd Pilot Pro, then I would think it'll be the same situation which means you'll need the reverse polarity cable.  Why take a chance?

;D Me lleva ! - I hadn't tried MF -  :D That's the lowest price on those yet I've seen -   thanks

EZ:

HR
Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: admin on May 06, 2017, 10:59:22 AM
Or use this

Timespeed Mayday 9v to 2.1mm power adapter

(https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=10662.0;attach=15876;image)
Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: ReniPerez on June 12, 2017, 08:44:04 AM
I've tried the Intocircuit 32000 mah Power Monster power bank I purchased from Amazon.com with the Trutone 8-plug cable and polarity cable (very important to have that polarity cable!) with a series of devices in a 9-volt chain.  They were a Boss GP-10, Line 6 Pod HD500 (needs an adapter plug that comes with Intocircuit to accommodate slightly larger power input), and five Pigtronix pedals.  The Pigtronix pedals sound better with 18 volts feeding them but still work with 9 volts and were included mostly to test the Intociruit capability.

This worked right out of the gate and I was thrilled though later on I did have a bit of a hiccup with it.  I had tried this setup again and first connected the GP-10 but then, shortly after connecting the Line 6 HD500, the voltage symbol on the Intocircuit would start flashing and keep flashing while all power would cease to the units.  I tried this a number of times with the same results after which I tried just connecting the short cable that came with the power bank and saw that it read a steady 9 volts.  I then connected the combined polarity cable-into-Trutone 8-plug cable into the short cable and then connected the devices and the voltage held steady for the duration of the power banks charge.

I'm not sure what gave the unit it's flashing voltage problem but I haven't experienced it since then and I'm very pleased with its ability to supply power to multiple devices especially including a Line 6 HD500 which I feared might be too much for it.  I even added a USB To DC 9v or 12v Adjustable Step-up Voltage Regulator Converter to the USB port that someone on the forum had recommended.  It was able to power a 12 volt input (no reverse polarity cable needed here) to a VOX MIni3 G2 amp from the USB port while powering all the other devices from the DC power out port using the Trutone cable setup.

Thank you to Elantric and all the other helpful posters that helped put me on this track.  Outdoor summer playing is now happening.
Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: admin on June 12, 2017, 08:48:46 AM
Powering  both a HD500 and GP-10 may present a hurdle -

the HD500 requires a lot more DC current than the GP-10   
Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: ReniPerez on June 12, 2017, 09:16:14 AM
Yes, I agree that the HD500 is a big power draw relatively speaking.  The GP-10 power supply states 9v at .5 amps while the HD 500 states 9v at 3 amps.  The power bank lists its output as 4.5 amps at 9 volts.  Nonetheless, it's working with an HD500, GP-10 and VOX mini amp though, in reality, I will most likely use it to power a GP-10, a MIDX-20 which powers a Softstep foot controller via its USB connector, and a TC-Helicon Voicelive 2 which the power bank has plenty of juice for.  I also have another power bank of 20000 mah with 12-16-19 volt DC out that I can put to use if I need separate 12 volts or greater power for the Voicelive 2 or a VOX mini amp.
Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: chrish on June 12, 2017, 09:23:07 AM
Quote from: ReniPerez on May 03, 2017, 09:31:02 AM
I ordered a couple of reverse polarity cables from Musician's Friend for $2.99 each.  With no tax and free shipping, it seemed like a no brainer.  It seems I fried a Pigronix pedal by not paying attention to the polarity so this time I'll check the polarity of the power out on the battery pack using a voltmeter before sticking a cable in.  If it's a rebrand of the Poweradd Pilot Pro, then I would think it'll be the same situation which means you'll need the reverse polarity cable.  Why take a chance?
man sorry to hear that you bricked  your pedal.

When I purchased a spicetone 6appeal pedal recently, it didn't come with a power supply. Right now it's attached to one of those multi-voltage and selectable polarity switch AC to DC wall warts. In order to ensure that I didn't accidentally flip the polarity switch, I wedged a piece of a putty like substance in the switch (propolis collected by my honey bees). And even though I have the switch set to the correct polarity, I still checked it with a voltage meter.

Your story is a good reminder to use caution when connecting non-standard power supplies.
Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: admin on June 12, 2017, 09:38:13 AM
The Power supply capacity stated on the wal wart has zero bearing on the actual Hardware DC Current draw

Tests reveal the HD500 requires 9VDC  @ 2.1Amps (2100mA)
http://line6.com/supportarchivenew/thread/46741/
Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: ReniPerez on June 12, 2017, 09:48:12 AM
"Tests reveal the HD500 requires 9VDC  @ 2.1Amps (2100mA)"

Thanks.  Even better for me!
Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: chrish on June 12, 2017, 12:04:42 PM
Quote from: admsustainiac on June 12, 2017, 09:38:13 AM
The Power supply capacity stated on the wal wart has zero bearing on the actual Hardware DC Current draw

Tests reveal the HD500 requires 9VDC  @ 2.1Amps (2100mA)
http://line6.com/supportarchivenew/thread/46741/
what happens if you connect a power supply that is underrated in milliamps for the device you're connecting it to? For example connecting a 200 milliamp wall wart to a pedal that requires 300 milliamps.
Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: admin on June 12, 2017, 12:26:00 PM
Quotewhat happens if you connect a power supply that is underrated in milliamps for the device you're connecting it to? For example connecting a 200 milliamp wall wart to a pedal that requires 300 milliamps.

The connected FX  will not power up
Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: gtlist on July 08, 2017, 05:52:21 PM
One question?

Can I leave it charged(plugged on wall outlet)? when it's used for live situation? Or do I need it unplugged when its being used? Is there any noise level difference?
Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: Elantric on July 08, 2017, 06:12:34 PM
 You should unplug it from AC power during the gig
yes it will make a noise if you connect to the AC charger while performing
Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: Hurricane on July 08, 2017, 10:06:54 PM
;D

¿ Maybe ?

(https://shop.harborfreight.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/6/2/62747.jpg)

https://www.harborfreight.com/5-in-1-portable-power-pack-with-jump-start-62747.html (https://www.harborfreight.com/5-in-1-portable-power-pack-with-jump-start-62747.html)

EZ :

HR
Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: Elantric on July 08, 2017, 10:30:53 PM
Quote from: Hurricane on July 08, 2017, 10:06:54 PM
;D

¿ Maybe ?

(https://shop.harborfreight.com/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/6/2/62747.jpg)

https://www.harborfreight.com/5-in-1-portable-power-pack-with-jump-start-62747.html (https://www.harborfreight.com/5-in-1-portable-power-pack-with-jump-start-62747.html)

EZ :

HR




(https://www.solaronline.com.au/media/oldImg/soatrailer4.jpg)

(https://ae01.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1_pzXNXXXXXagXXXXq6xXFXXXB/Hand-Crank-font-b-Generator-b-font-font-b-Portable-b-font-Power-Supply-font-b.jpg)
Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: Hurricane on July 08, 2017, 11:27:44 PM
Quote from: Elantric on July 08, 2017, 10:30:53 PM


(https://www.solaronline.com.au/media/oldImg/soatrailer4.jpg)

(https://ae01.alicdn.com/kf/HTB1_pzXNXXXXXagXXXXq6xXFXXXB/Hand-Crank-font-b-Generator-b-font-font-b-Portable-b-font-Power-Supply-font-b.jpg)

;D
C'mon man heh heh heh .

Some of the places I go to to play are really
away from all power  :o .

Here in the Mojave desert & The Big Island of Hawaii's
Puna district - thought one like this might have a power
storage for a week end away from AC to power a tube amp .

On Lanai we ( my partner ) stayed camped on the beach with
a big honken sport's boat generator powering the P.A. from
the dock , it was one of the coolest gigs you can imagine .

My partner on his acoustic 12 String Epi & myself on acoustic
harps with my friend singing everything from R&R - CW & nasty
English/Irish/Scottish drinking songs .   ;)

EZ :

HR
Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: gtlist on July 09, 2017, 01:34:37 PM
thanks Elantric.

I play the guitar in just one place 7times a week. so I left my pedalboard on stage. Right before the playing I plug pedalboard into the wall and after the 2hours of play unplugged it from wall.

So, If I use Pliot Pro 32000nh I need to do it very opposite way right ? It's interesting.
Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: admin on July 09, 2017, 05:10:00 PM
Depending on the pedal board total D.C. Current , you may only have to recharge the PowerAdd Pilot  Pro once a month
Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: Dunny Daw on August 16, 2017, 03:37:56 AM
I've only just stumbled on this post, and wondering if any can help me.

I bought one of these generic Poweradd battery banks years ago, and have put it aside.  I would have it powering my multi-FX (either a GP-10 or a GT-1) and all would be going well.  Then after about 10 minutes or so, the Poweradd would shut-down.  It would be indicating that it still had 90% or more storage power, so I don't think that was the issue.  It just seemed like it would not be detecting a load, and then would time-out and auto shut-down.

Even if I was strumming to ensure there was sound being generated by the pedal, the Poweradd would still shut down.

I have tried any number of settings, but found nothing that seemed to keep it going.

Any suggestions?

I've kept an eye on other power banks to purchase something else, but being from Australia, most don't post over here.
Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: admin on August 16, 2017, 08:03:26 AM
the 2012 and later PowerAdd PilotPro 32000 mAH power pack ( or newer) can power one at a time

You must limit the current draw - by not connecting too many effects. I use multiple battery packs if I need to power several effects

the GR-55 draws a lot more current than a GP-10

And some effects to not play well ( JamMan Solo XT, Digitech Whammy DT), yielding noise / hiss if not placed on their own dedicated power source.

Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: Dunny Daw on September 13, 2017, 05:28:30 AM
Quote from: admsustainiac on August 16, 2017, 08:03:26 AM
the 2012 and later PowerAdd PilotPro 32000 mAH power pack ( or newer) can power one at a time

You must limit the current draw - by not connecting too many effects. I use multiple battery packs if I need to power several effects

the GR-55 draws a lot more current than a GP-10

And some effects to not play well ( JamMan Solo XT, Digitech Whammy DT), yielding noise / hiss if not placed on their own dedicated power source.

Hey, Elantric,

Thanks for this tip.  Since this, I've been playing around with my different FX boxes and the PowerAdd battery supply.

1.  The GP-10 on its own can run for hours with no issues
2.  The GR-55 on its own can run for hours with no issues
3.  The GP-10 plus GR-55 daisy-chained off the battery supply can run for ages with no problems
4.  The GT-1 on its own will shut down after maybe 5 minutes, even if I am playing continuously (so the battery pack should be sensing a load the whole time)
5.  The GT-1 plus GR-55 daisy-chained off the battery supply will shut down after maybe 5 minutes, even if I am playing continuously (so the battery pack should be sensing a load the whole time)
6.  The GT-1 plus GP-10 daisy-chained off the battery supply will shut down after maybe 5 minutes, even if I am playing continuously (so the battery pack should be sensing a load the whole time)

So it looks like the GT-1 is having some impact on the PowerAdd battery pack and it then shuts down.  According to the various manuals, the GT-1 should be the least load (I think it is 200 mA, vs 350 mA and maybe 700 mA for the GP-10 and GR-55).

Which is all a shame, because the GT-1 was the pedal I am most likely to take out and use where I play (very poorly) outside the bedroom.

I'll keep looking for other options ....
Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: Elantric on September 13, 2017, 08:53:10 AM
QuoteI'll keep looking for other options ....

with the Roland / Boss gear that uses AA batteries ( GT-1, FC-300, Cube Street EX)  I use Powerex NiMH 2700 mAh rechargeable batteries 
https://www.amazon.com/Powerex-Capacity-Rechargeable-Batteries-2700mAh/dp/B06XDHM839/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1505317954&sr=8-1&keywords=maha+AA+rechargeable
Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: bbob on January 08, 2018, 09:35:13 AM
On the XT Power MP10000 what is the difference between the Samsung devices and Apple devices USP outputs ?  Both are 5 volts. Is the amp output different?  Thanks.
Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: chappi on January 08, 2018, 12:56:25 PM
Quote from: Elantric on February 20, 2014, 09:57:50 AM

I'm going to try one of these  - and see if it can power my FX pedal Board and USB Hub for iPad.


What DC powered USB hubs are people using in this situation? I've had a look through the thread and couldn't find any mentioned.

Thanks

Chris
Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: admin on January 08, 2018, 01:18:06 PM
Quote from: chappi on January 08, 2018, 12:56:25 PM
What DC powered USB hubs are people using in this situation? I've had a look through the thread and couldn't find any mentioned.

Thanks

Chris

I use the ones listed on this thread below

IOS: Connecting USB Class Compliant MIDI / Audio (Battery Power)
https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=9581.0

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Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: admin on January 31, 2018, 09:32:32 AM
(https://www.conrad.com/medias/global/ce/6000_6999/6800/6870/6870/1542967_RB_00_FB.EPS_1000.jpg)

(https://www.conrad.com/medias/global/ce/6000_6999/6800/6840/6842/1542967_ZB_00_FB.EPS_1000.jpg)

http://www.palmer-germany.com/mi/en/BATPACK-4000-Rechargeable-Pedalboard-Power-Supply-4000mAh-PBATPACK4000.htm

Model name: PBATPACK4000
Rechargeable Pedalboard Power Supply, 4000mAh
The Palmer BATPACK is purpose-designed for guitar and bass players to provide ultra-quiet power to pedalboards and high current draw stompboxes. Utilizing advantageous lithium polymer battery technology and specially designed active filtering circuitry, they are absolutely free from buzz, hiss or whine unlike lesser power bank designs. The BATPACK comes in a rugged low-profile aluminium enclosure and delivers 500 mA each from electrically separated and regulated 9 volt DC centre negative barrel outputs. It features short circuit protection, 5-segment battery status indication and a convenient type A USB port for charging smartphones or tablets. A charger is included.



Product type:   Stromversorgungen
Type:   Akku-Stromversorgung
Mains connector:   externes Netzteil
Input voltage:   12 V DC / 2 A
Outputs:   3
Output connectors:   2,1 x 5,5 mm, USB-A
Output voltage:   5, 9 V
Max. output current:   9-V-Ausgänge: 500 mA, 5-V-Ausgang: 1 A
Isolated outputs:   Nein
Polarity:   Innenstift minus
Indicators:   Akku
Controls:   Netzschalter (On/Off)
Battery capacity:   4000 mAh
Battery type:   Lithium
Charging time:   4 Std.
Battery operation time at maximum load:   4 Std.
Width:   195 mm
Depth:   83 mm
Height:   25 mm
Weight:   0,001 kg



https://www.conrad.com/ce/en/product/1542967/Palmer-Audio----BATPACK-4000

Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: mchad on February 13, 2018, 05:56:33 PM

These must be common yes? How you get the juice from the powerbank to the pedal? I'm interested because I will have a small pedalboard with only one or two high current pedals and the rest just analog stomps. So a regular small DC brick and a powerbank with USB outs (with this cord) for the hungry stomps.

https://www.songbirdfx.com/products/birdcord/ (https://www.songbirdfx.com/products/birdcord/)
Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: admin on May 16, 2018, 05:02:15 PM
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B074FWK46G/ref=sspa_dk_detail_13?psc=1
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/91vUKBygK-L._SL1500_.jpg)
Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: mchad on May 21, 2018, 03:58:09 PM
Thanks. That Boxking power supply looks good. They even make pedal boards with the rechargeable power supply built in.

(https://preview.ibb.co/fVg80o/boxking_board.jpg) (https://ibb.co/h2HgLo)


https://youtu.be/c6QKGKsrQXY

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/A1Wlw2ng-iL._SL1500_.jpg)
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large
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B074HXMR77/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

small
https://www.amazon.com/BoxKing-12800mAh-POWERED-Rechargeable-pedalboard/dp/B074J3FP1X/ref=sr_1_2?s=musical-instruments&srs=17855806011&ie=UTF8&qid=1538678856&sr=1-2
https://www.amazon.co.uk/BoxKing-Power-Supply-Pedalboard-Built/dp/B074GXCY43

https://web.archive.org/web/20180322164043/http://www.boxking.net:80/pd.jsp?id=18

(https://web.archive.org/web/20180322164043im_/http://14266959.s21i-14.faiusr.com/2/ABUIABACGAAgzuCTywUo3P3hugcw5wU4gCA.jpg)


Large
https://web.archive.org/web/20180305203226/http://www.boxking.net:80/h-pd-11-8_421.html
(https://web.archive.org/web/20180305203226im_/http://14266959.s21i-14.faiusr.com/2/ABUIABACGAAgh_GTywUojdyirQMw4gU4gCA.jpg)



Small and Medium versions sold as "OUTLAW NOMAD Battery Powered Pedal Board
https://www.musiciansfriend.com/amplifiers-effects/outlaw-effects-nomad-rechargeable-powered-pedalboard?rNtt=outlaw&index=3#productDetail

Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: mchad on June 14, 2018, 08:29:15 PM

OK. I think I'm going to jump on the power bank wagon (in tandem with https://www.songbirdfx.com/products/birdcord/ (https://www.songbirdfx.com/products/birdcord/)) for my pedalboard power. From what I've gleaned from Professor Google, guitar players should look for:

- at least 10000mah
- 2 or more usb outlets (one outlet daisy chained to low current analog pedals and the other to 1 or 2 high current digital pedals)
- an on/off switch
- always on mode (no auto off)
- a power level read out
- ability to recharge and use at the same time
- 9v in for recharging

Size wise I'm a bit restricted due to pedal board real estate so the Poweradd Pilot Pro might be too big.
Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: admin on June 14, 2018, 08:44:44 PM
 A few other smaller 9v DC battery pack supplies at this link:
https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=10662.msg87027#msg87027
But you need to determine the mA current draw of all effects and how long you need to use your rig on battery power

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Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: admin on June 28, 2018, 02:36:24 PM
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B074FWK46G/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/91vUKBygK-L._SL1500_.jpg)
Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: admin on October 04, 2018, 11:26:12 AM
http://cdm.link/2018/10/usb-power-music-strom-mobile/
https://youtu.be/9FOH25InN7c

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https://koma-elektronik.com/?product=strom-mobile-portable-power-solution

GEAR MUSIC TECH TECHRun your audio gear off of USB power banks: KOMA's Strom Mobile
Peter Kirn - October 3, 2018  11 Comments     
You're on the go. And those wonderful USB power banks will charge your phone – so why not audio gear, too? KOMA Elektronik's new Strom Mobile makes it possible.

Here's the problem: USB power banks (mobile batteries and whatnot), while plentiful, only output 5V power for phones and USB, and they're anything but "low noise" (meaning you'll hear garbled interference when you plug a lot of them in).

A lot of your compact audio gear is probably running on 9V or 12V power, and it'll make you happier if it's low noise. (Some gear is 5V, of course, but that's another story.)

Enter Strom Mobile, a small accessory from KOMA that adapts power banks for your gear. Specs:





9V/12V DC power compatibility (clean, low noise)
Two power channels – plug in to one or both, and set each channel to either 9V or 12V
Indicators to show you which power is connected, and how much current you're using
Four outputs for gear – or connect more via daisy chaining (until you run out of current, anyway)
Cables and manual in the box: 1x USB B, 2x DC-DC, printed guide
The USB B cable is especially designed for this application.

There's also a Strom Mobile Cable Pack you can buy as an add on, which includes another of those special USB B cables, a 1-5to-5 daisychain DC cable, 2 more DC cables, and 1 polarity changing DC cable.

And of course, this is intended for use with the Field Kit and Field Kit FX from KOMA, but the list of 9V/12V drum machines, recorders, samplers, effects pedals, mobile synths, and the like is very long.

Pricing: 175EUR suggested retail, or 35EUR for the Cable Pack.
Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: admin on October 04, 2018, 11:29:53 AM
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07841Z83P/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1


$25
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/715rO1O7Z8L._SL1500_.jpg)
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(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/7185bTRvNhL._SL1500_.jpg)


Mugig Guitar Pedal Power Supply 9V USB Line Charging Effect Pedals Power Station 4 Regulated Outputs
by Mugig
4.2 out of 5 stars    17 customer reviews  | 12 answered questions
Price:   $24.49 Free Shipping for Prime Members
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HIGHTLIGHT : USB charging allows that the power supply can be easily charged by POWER BANK
PERFOMANCE : Powers four 9v pedals all at once without losing any signal intensity
PROTECTION : Short Circuit Protection ensures the stable working condition
VOLTAGE : Wide range of inputting voltage from 5v-19vDC
PACKAGE INCLUDES :1*Power Supply, 4*DC cable, 2*USB to DC cable,1*User Manual

Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: admin on October 10, 2018, 10:35:15 AM
https://www.thegearpage.net/board/index.php?posts/27303104/

Quotembenigni said: ↑
That is a cool idea! (The Volto was designed to slot right into the bottom of a PedalTrain Nano, so a bit of Velcro and you had something more or less functionally equivalent.)

I'm going to have to find some specs on max. output current on these BoxKing batteries. They're both overkill (more outputs, and therefore more footprint than I'd prefer) but the prices are very reasonable.

EDIT: Scratch that re: footprint. I just saw some more pictures indicating the BK05 is a lot smaller than I thought.

Guitardave wrote>
Yeah - it's really nicely done. Props to @ucnick for finding this one...

Here it is mounted with velcro under my PT Nano +.
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Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: Elantric on October 10, 2018, 10:41:16 AM
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/819MQ-lRaXL._SL1500_.jpg)

I take delivery of the
BoxKing PB4828 25600mAh POWERED Rechargeable Pedalboard
Model F "Big Board" with built in dual battery packs later this week- will report my findings
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/71Il7MP1KBL._SL1500_.jpg)
https://web.archive.org/web/20180322164033/http://www.boxking.net:80/col.jsp?id=104
Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: Elantric on October 13, 2018, 01:04:41 PM
Quote from: mchad on May 21, 2018, 03:58:09 PM
Thanks. That Boxking power supply looks good. They even make pedal boards with the rechargeable power supply built in.

(https://preview.ibb.co/fVg80o/boxking_board.jpg) (https://ibb.co/h2HgLo)


https://youtu.be/c6QKGKsrQXY

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/A1Wlw2ng-iL._SL1500_.jpg)
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/819MQ-lRaXL._SL1500_.jpg)

large
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B074HXMR77/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1

small
https://www.amazon.com/BoxKing-12800mAh-POWERED-Rechargeable-pedalboard/dp/B074J3FP1X/ref=sr_1_2?s=musical-instruments&srs=17855806011&ie=UTF8&qid=1538678856&sr=1-2
https://www.amazon.co.uk/BoxKing-Power-Supply-Pedalboard-Built/dp/B074GXCY43

https://web.archive.org/web/20180322164043/http://www.boxking.net:80/pd.jsp?id=18

(https://web.archive.org/web/20180322164043im_/http://14266959.s21i-14.faiusr.com/2/ABUIABACGAAgzuCTywUo3P3hugcw5wU4gCA.jpg)


Large
https://web.archive.org/web/20180305203226/http://www.boxking.net:80/h-pd-11-8_421.html
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(https://i.postimg.cc/1m4xc8bG/20181012-233950.jpg)

HD Stomp on Battery Power

BoxKing Battery Pedal Board works right out of the box

Includes all necessary 2.1mm to 2.5mm adapter cables - two of each of opposing DC polarity

(https://i.postimg.cc/QN5y01mT/20181012-233632.jpg)

But i tell you the HD Stomp on ATH-M50X headphones , on Boxking battery power sounded more detailed and lower noise floor. ' even yeilds single coil guitars that are now suddenly hum free

Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: whippinpost91850 on October 13, 2018, 10:55:27 PM
I just got a Boxking battery power. I plaid a 4.5 hr gig tonight. And still had plenty of power left.  Powered my voicelive3
Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: Hurricane on October 15, 2018, 01:53:23 AM
Quote from: whippinpost91850 on October 13, 2018, 10:55:27 PM
I just got a Boxking battery power. I plaid a 4.5 hr gig tonight. And still had plenty of power left.  Powered my voicelive3

¿Which model ?

EZ :

HR
Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: gumbo on October 15, 2018, 02:40:11 AM
Hmmm...

Steve, do think I could confidently run a GR-55, AND a GP-10 (and a not-much-load tuner & buffer) off a Boxking BK-05 ?? 
Max 3 1/2 hour gigs in this configuration....but from all accounts the rig could be supplanted by connecting the charger if required...  ( ?? )

Peter
Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: whippinpost91850 on October 15, 2018, 06:15:34 AM
As far as I know there is only one BoxKing battery power supply and it works great and comes with all cables, even reverse polarity

This is the one at Amazon
https://www.amazon.com/12800mAh-POWERBANK-Rechargeable-Portable-Pedalboards/dp/B074FWK46G/ref=pd_cp_267_2?pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_p=ef4dc990-a9ca-4945-ae0b-f8d549198ed6&pf_rd_r=5X1XYR0AFJM4NMY09NY5&pd_rd_wg=JGJjZ&pf_rd_s=desktop-dp-sims&pf_rd_t=40701&pd_rd_w=MYN6U&pf_rd_i=desktop-dp-sims&pd_rd_r=0e41b818-d07c-11e8-b42b-1db580407759&pd_rd_i=B074FWK46G&psc=1&refRID=5X1XYR0AFJM4NMY09NY5
Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: gumbo on October 15, 2018, 06:26:09 AM
On Oz eBay (for example) we have this one listed, as well as the pedalboard version....

https://www.ebay.com.au/itm/BoxKing-BK05-12800mAh-PEDAL-POWERBANK-Pedal-Board-Power-Supply-more-Instrument/153104330058

..as was referred to (in USA) in an earlier post on this thread:

https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B074FWK46G/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Peter
Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: admin on October 15, 2018, 07:42:02 AM
Quote from: gumbo on October 15, 2018, 02:40:11 AM
Hmmm...

Steve, do think I could confidently run a GR-55, AND a GP-10 (and a not-much-load tuner & buffer) off a Boxking BK-05 ?? 
Max 3 1/2 hour gigs in this configuration....but from all accounts the rig could be supplanted by connecting the charger if required...  ( ?? )

Peter

Highly doubtful
But will try and report back.

I advocate multiple battery boxes. 
Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: gumbo on October 15, 2018, 03:09:53 PM
Quote from: admin on October 15, 2018, 07:42:02 AM
Highly doubtful
But will try and report back.

I advocate multiple battery boxes.

Thank you..

Look forward to hearing your report.

Regards,
Peter
Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: admin on October 15, 2018, 08:45:47 PM
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/A1Wlw2ng-iL._SL1500_.jpg)


Here is one 12800mA BoxKing battery ( included as part of the twin battery BoxKing PB4828 25600mAh Pedal board powering HX-Stomp , GR-55, and GP-10 on battery power



(https://i.postimg.cc/05vNCCkh/20181015-203753.jpg)


QuoteRingleader42 said: ↑
The power outlets are on the inside of the pedalboard? Did you flip yours around somehow or do they come like that now?
I flipped them - prefer them on the inside and protected from my big feet.


(https://toolboom.com/nfs/product/866950/image/800/digital-clamp-meter-uni-t-ut210e.jpg)
https://toolboom.com/en/digital-clamp-meter-uni-t-ut210e/

I made preliminary DC Current measurements using Unitrode UT210E AC/DC clamp meter

It measured

GP-10= 230mA steady state

GR-55 = 395mA steady state

HX Stomp = 890 mA steady state


Next I'll measure the typical battery life in hours / minutes before it needs recharging

Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: gumbo on October 15, 2018, 10:13:17 PM
Thanks SO much for that Steve...

...looks like I spend the money after all...   :-*

Cheers,
Peter
Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: aliensporebomb on October 16, 2018, 05:41:53 AM
Impressive.  For me though the big power draw would be powered monitors.  What would you play this through that would not eat the battery alive?
Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: admin on October 16, 2018, 05:48:42 AM
Quote from: aliensporebomb on October 16, 2018, 05:41:53 AM
Impressive.  For me though the big power draw would be powered monitors.  What would you play this through that would not eat the battery alive?

Id never use this for FX and powered monitor speakers  - would be a short gig.

but several batteries might be effective

Battery #1  = FX

Battery #2  = Speaker right

Battery #3  = Speaker left


Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: gumbo on October 16, 2018, 06:59:14 AM
Quote from: aliensporebomb on October 16, 2018, 05:41:53 AM
Impressive.  For me though the big power draw would be powered monitors.  What would you play this through that would not eat the battery alive?

I was more concerned about getting power to the front of the stage for everything under my feet...
...I would like (ultimately) to have everything there self-contained with its own power supply so that the only cables were the (loomed) L & R outputs snaking around to the noisy stuff at the back   ;D    ...making for a quicker setup and breakdown, let alone concerns as to availability of sufficient, decent mains power in the venue...

...I wouldn't be attempting to power anything 'backline' with this...

Hope that clarifies it.

Peter
Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: Majiken on October 16, 2018, 07:17:55 AM
Looking forward to the battery life results!

In the current version of the German mag "Gitarre & Bass" they test an interesting 12800 mAh power supply from China labelled KSE Falken 1 mega power. With 6 pedals drawing 320 mA (doesn't seem like much to me) total it went from fully charged to empty in 9 1/2 hours.  It can be hooked up to A/C, recharge & juice the pedals simultaneously.  G&B lists the street price at 115 Euros.  Gotta see how that stacks up against the BoxKing landed in Germany....
Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: admin on October 16, 2018, 07:35:30 AM
Quote from: Majiken on October 16, 2018, 07:17:55 AM
Looking forward to the battery life results!

In the current version of the German mag "Gitarre & Bass" they test an interesting 12800 mAh power supply from China labelled KSE Falken 1 mega power. With 6 pedals drawing 320 mA (doesn't seem like much to me) total it went from fully charged to empty in 9 1/2 hours.  It can be hooked up to A/C, recharge & juice the pedals simultaneously.  G&B lists the street price at 115 Euros.  Gotta see how that stacks up against the BoxKing landed in Germany....

Often the same shop in China builds same device for many different global distributors

Compare both below ( they are the same  - just different paint / silkscreen label )

In Germany -  KSE Falken 1 mega power.
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/81jhhLnKxNL._SL1500_.jpg)
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/81OaSgk7GSL._SL1500_.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/TPdSCjq9/falken.png)

https://www.amazon.de/Falken-Power-Powerbank-Effektgeräte-Drums/dp/B07D7B3B1T



In USA -  BoxKing BK-05

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/616IPS-q9uL._SL1500_.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/Y0WyhdMp/boxking.png)
https://www.amazon.com/12800mAh-POWERBANK-Rechargeable-Portable-Pedalboards/dp/B074FWK46G/ref=sr_1_1

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/91vUKBygK-L._SL1500_.jpg)

QuoteRingleader42 said: ↑
Yeah, or just sitting in and making things easy for everyone. Thankfully it can be used while charging or it would be gone by now. It's more the point of expecting one thing and then getting another
.


I think the BoxKing BK05 mAH rating is overestimated

And despite having 10 output jacks , the reality is powering multiple modern effects that emply DSP ( Meris, Strymon , Chase Bliss, Boss DD500) is not possoble , due to power ground loops and internal switching power supplies yields high white noise

Explains why they made that pedal board version with dual batteries
Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: Majiken on October 16, 2018, 09:41:01 AM
Haha, that's kind of what I was expecting to find out... Dig the price differences, whereby after adding customs & tax I probably would end up in the same ballpark, without a 3 year guarantee....
Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: admin on October 23, 2018, 05:05:23 PM


Small and Medium versions of BoxKing Battery Powered Peal Board sold as



(https://static1.squarespace.com/static/538c8ffae4b0db4eab09e2de/596ced0af5e231ec6135504d/5b3b7f99aa4a9981e06800bc/1533822610763/M128_accessories+shadow.jpg?format=750w)
"OUTLAW NOMAD Battery Powered Pedal Board
https://www.musiciansfriend.com/amplifiers-effects/outlaw-effects-nomad-rechargeable-powered-pedalboard?rNtt=outlaw&index=3#productDetail
http://www.outlawguitareffects.com/accessories/nomad
Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: whippinpost91850 on October 24, 2018, 09:24:37 AM
Well looks like I got a total of 7.5 hrs out of my BOXKING powering my VoiceLIve3
Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: admin on October 24, 2018, 09:39:33 AM
Great news!

I'm still making measurements -but Boxking battery power box went more than 4 hours before i had to end the test  - powering a small pedal board with  HX Stomp + Morningstar MC-6 MII + VE-500

apparently there are numerous variants sold around the globe   

Falken 1 Mega Power Powerbank
https://www.amazon.de/Falken-Power-Powerbank-Effektgeräte-Drums/dp/B07D7B3B1T (https://www.amazon.de/Falken-Power-Powerbank-Effektger%C3%A4te-Drums/dp/B07D7B3B1T)


and various versions of the powered pedal board with soft case.


(https://static1.squarespace.com/static/538c8ffae4b0db4eab09e2de/596ced0af5e231ec6135504d/5b3b7fbe352f5375950916de/1533822610765/S128_accessories.jpg?format=2500w)
Outlaw Nomad
http://www.outlawguitareffects.com/accessories/nomad


Samson Tourtek PB1905 (small single battery board ) 
https://www.samash.com/pb1905-rechargeable-pedalboard-with-carry-case-satpb1905


(https://i.postimg.cc/0yZh3Z8j/tourtek.png)
Samson Tourtek PB1910 (medium single battery board )
https://www.samash.com/pb1911-rechargeable-pedalboard-with-case-satpb1911-p


(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/2lUAAOSwxo9aqQT4/s-l1600.jpg)
BoxKing PB4828 25600mAh POWERED Rechargeable Pedalboard  (medium DUAL battery board )
appears to be hard to find / out of stock 
https://www.ebay.com/itm/BoxKing-Rechargeable-Pedalboards-Pedal-Board-PB4828-19-x11-W-Soft-Built-in-Free-/292483031715
Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: whippinpost91850 on October 24, 2018, 09:52:44 AM
Quote from: admin on October 24, 2018, 09:39:33 AM
Great news!

I'm still making measurements -but Boxking battery power box went more than 4 hours before i had to end the test  - powering a small pedal board with  HX Stomp + Morningstar MC-6 MII + VE-500

Well looks like I got a total of 7.5 hrs out of my BOXKING powering my VoiceLIve3.. Elantric , sounds like about the same as you are finding
Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: admin on October 24, 2018, 09:54:57 AM
Quote from: roachone on January 04, 2019, 02:19:53 PM
Just got the Boxking BK05. Charged it, hooked up to Boss, WOW it's really nice BUT, I'm having a serious issue with it. When I plug the Digitech Drop up to the Boxking it is so noisy I can't stand it. Buzzing like hell!  I can unplug the Drop and plug it in using my ac adaptor and no noise. Only makes noise when I try to plug it in the Boxking. Any ideas or suggestions?

Despite all the DC Power output jacks, You can use the Boxking BK05 to power only ONE high current effect at a time. - and it may not work with most Digitech gear ( Whammy DT, DROP, etc)
and it may not "play well" with all effects.
the Digitech DROP draws 250mAh alone, and adding that to the GT-1000 (which draws 1,300 mAh) is the proverbial "Straw that breaks the camels back!


I recall  mentioned this limitation of the Boxking BK05 here


DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=10662.0

its a gamble  - but an inline DC Power conditioner may help lower the noise
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/71lnieNJ3WL._SL1500_.jpg)
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00XRWJ3SI/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o09_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: whippinpost91850 on October 24, 2018, 10:34:59 AM
Yes, It was awesome not having to run power to the front of the stage for a change

I used the dense foam it was shipped in to make a box to insert it in my pedal board. I'll send pictures when I get home
Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: admin on October 25, 2018, 10:18:17 AM
https://www.thegearpage.net/board/index.php?posts/27388545/


mbenigni wrote>
Tell me this isn't the coolest battery-powered pedalboard ever. :) Repurposing a Pedaltrain riser accessory as a nano-nano pedalboard.

With BoxKing BK05 Battery Power pack
(https://i.postimg.cc/Y0WyhdMp/boxking.png)

(https://i.postimg.cc/DZcHj25b/U3lwCQX.jpg)
Footprint roughly equivalent to HX Stomp:

https://i.postimg.cc/zBN4FLwr/QSo7kX0.jpg
Power switch and plug for charging on the side:

(https://i.postimg.cc/KYBdT7Mf/ijNJ6wv.jpg)
Just enough room left over to slot in a Boss WL20 wireless receiver (en route):


The only thing I have to do is find the right sized "feet" to adhere to the back, as the whole thing actually rocks on the front of the BoxKing BK05 battery as is. Otherwise the fit is perfect. I was actually a little disappointed it wasn't a touch oversized, so I could wedge an old iPhone in the bottom (for stealthy MIDI Guitar/ SampleTank fun.) I might do a build based on a larger Pedaltrain riser, with said iPhone on the bottom and a mini-expression pedal on the top. Elegant AF. :aok

OK, I'm going to play guitar now. Honest.
Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: Tonemasterus on October 30, 2018, 04:32:27 PM
Is anyone elses boxking noisy if you add another 9v pedal in addition to the hx?

Dave
Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: admin on October 30, 2018, 04:50:23 PM
Quote from: Tonemasterus on October 30, 2018, 04:32:27 PM
Is anyone elses boxking noisy if you add another 9v pedal in addition to the hx?

Dave

Which is the 2nd pedal?

its true many pedals may not "play well" ( = yield hiss & noise) if powered on same BoxKing Battery supply as HX Stomp. 
Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: Tonemasterus on October 30, 2018, 05:23:19 PM
Zoom ms bt100

Dave
Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: admin on October 30, 2018, 05:30:56 PM
Quote from: Tonemasterus on October 30, 2018, 05:23:19 PM
Zoom ms bt100

Dave

Yes - I would expect noise issues with that Zoom MS-100BT Bluetooth pedal

I plan on running multiple batteries (and not all Boxking)
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00935L44E/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o00_s01?ie=UTF8&psc=1

Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: admin on October 31, 2018, 03:04:51 PM
Another user (tjontheroad) of the Boxking battery Powered FX board

(https://www.thegearpage.net/board/index.php?media/acoustic-pb-2.126930/full&lightbox=1&last_edit_date=1536117793)

https://www.thegearpage.net/board/index.php?media/acoustic-pb-2.126930/
Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: Tonemasterus on October 31, 2018, 03:27:11 PM
Yes I will too. It isn't noisy until you add another device. As long as I know mine isn't defective!  Thanks!

Dave
Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: admin on November 01, 2018, 10:34:31 AM
https://www.ebay.com/itm/Joyo-JP-05-USB-Rechargeable-Guitar-FX-Pedal-Power-Supply-9v-12v-18v-8-Output/253660417977?epid=28017591488&hash=item3b0f56cfb9:g:ddIAAOSweoBbECoS:sc:FedExHomeDelivery!93401!US!-1:rk:8:pf:0

(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/ddIAAOSweoBbECoS/s-l1600.jpg)

(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/NPEAAOSwp41bECoU/s-l1600.jpg)

Description
Joyo JP-05 USB Rechargeable Power Supply with 8 Outputs (9v,12v,18v)
The JP-05 Power Supply features, 8 DC outputs, 4 x 100ma 9v, 3 x 500ma 9v and 1 switchable to 9v, 12v or 18v at 100ma. The power supply also features a 5v USB, perfect for power USB devices & charging your phone.

To top off the feature list, the power supply has a built in 7.4v/4400 mAh rechargeable lithium battery pack which charges fully in 2.5 hours making sure that you are never without power.

Each output of the power supply features independent filters, output overload & short-circuit protection protecting your pedals and filtering out any unwanted noises.

Battery Level indicator - The Power supply has a 4 stage battery indicator, you can use the supply when it is in charging mode powered by the supplied JOYO 9v 2000ma adaptor.

The level of battery power will be indicated by the LED display on the top of the pedal.

0%      - Red flashing (charge it up!)
0-30%     - Red
30-60%     - Yellow
60-100%    - Green
Charging - Flashing above colour to show status

Who doesn't love a LED to show off your gear, the JP-05 will shine brightly, 8 LEDS can light up your board in a bright cool blue glow. A word of warning, don't press the on/off button to toggle these lights on and off whilst looking at them like I just did. They are very bright, much brighter than the LEDS on the JP02, the option to turn them off or on are a nice touch. If you are using the supply as a portable unit, it would make sense to turn them off.

DC Outputs 1-3 are 9v centre negative with 500ma each, suitable for many high end digital pedals requiring more oomph and suitable for many standard pedals too requiring less. In theory you could even run a daisy for 5 100ma pedals of each output, that's 15 pedals! If you are thinking of doing that, read our guide on power supplies for best practices.
DC Outputs 4-7 are also 9v centre negative with 100ma, suitable for the most guitar pedals at 100ma or less.
DC Output 8 can be switched from 9v,12v or 18v at 100ma.
So that makes a pretty versatile power supply, useful for guitar effects and other electronic instruments. The JOYO JP-05 is even supplied with a polarity converter for instruments/effects that require a centre positive supply.

Specifications
Dimension 146*65*35mm
Weight 620g
9v 2a power adapter
DC cables for your pedals x 8
Jack Outer 5.5mm
Jack Inner 2.1mm
Reversed Polarity cable x 1

Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: admin on November 01, 2018, 10:39:39 AM
(https://ae01.alicdn.com/kf/HTB10S27SXXXXXbUXpXXq6xXFXXXP.jpg)


http://MOOER Power Band S10 Guitar 10 Power Output Rechargeable professional Battery pedalboard power supply



Power Band S10

Mooer Power Bank S10 is a professional pedal board power supply loaded with a high capacity, rechargeable lithium battery. Now you can take your pedal board anywhere without the need for an electrical outlet and have the cleanest, most pure and noise free power possible.


Features
* 10 power outputs: 7 x 9V / 1 x 12V / 1 x 15V / 1 x 18V
* 2A total maximum output
* 20000mAh capacity
* High quality, long life Lipo power cells (can be recycled more than 50,000 times)
* Overcurrent protection
* Supplied with special adapter for charging


Specifications
Power input: 25.2V, 2A centre pin negative
Power output: 7 x 9V / 1 x 12V / 1 x 15V / 1 x 18V
Operating current: 2A total maximum output
size: 135mm(D)X75mm(W)X45.6mm (H)[/]
Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: admin on November 13, 2018, 12:19:23 PM
Back in stock
(https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/nzEAAOSw71pb0gx9/s-l1600.jpg)

https://www.ebay.com/itm/Rechargeable-Li-ion-Double-Power-Guitar-Pedal-Board-BoxKing-PB4828B-19-x-11/292787734547?hash=item442b824813:g:nzEAAOSw71pb0gx9:rk:7:pf:0
Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: Vaultnaemsae on November 14, 2018, 08:29:24 PM
Quote from: admin on October 15, 2018, 08:45:47 PM

I made preliminary DC Current measurements using Unitrode UT210E AC/DC clamp meter

It measured

GP-10= 230mA steady state

GR-55 = 395mA steady state


http://joyoaudio.com/en/product/show_308.html (http://joyoaudio.com/en/product/show_308.html)

I just ordered one of these. Specs say it can deliver up to 400mA.

I'm hoping it might power the GP-10 from my computer's USB port - I'm currently using a battery pack and a polarity switcher.

Not sure if it can handle the VG-99. Does anybody know how much current the VG-99 draws? I read in another post 1300mA but that might be under full load with additional power for accessories i.e. GK, US-20, FC-300 etc.
Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: Vaultnaemsae on November 19, 2018, 07:35:30 PM
Replying to myself but maybe this will be useful to somebody else. The JP-06W Power Converter ZGPW works as described and is visible here powering the GP-10 from a laptop USB port while simultaneously connected for Audio/MIDI over USB. No nonsense, no hum, tiny size, pretty cheap ($25.00AUD) - highly recommended.
Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: ReniPerez on December 01, 2018, 11:43:50 PM
I bought a JP-06 as well and am able to power my GP-10 with an old USB power bank easily.  Great thing to have in the toolkit.

Slightly related battery question:  Does anyone know if you battery power a cheap power supply with multiple outs such as a Donner DP-1:

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01CSAATY6/ref=sspa_dk_detail_0?psc=1&pd_rd_i=B01CSAATY6&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_p=21517efd-b385-405b-a405-9a37af61b5b4&pd_rd_wg=qErbl&pf_rd_r=F6WSG85JKAM193JY3M9E&pf_rd_s=desktop-dp-sims&pf_rd_t=40701&pd_rd_w=Om32f&pf_rd_i=desktop-dp-sims&pd_rd_r=d6aa4d3f-f603-11e8-8a9b-8b14f1b8c313

or a Caline Power P1

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07C4NL2JF/ref=sspa_dk_detail_5?psc=1&pd_rd_i=B07C4NL2JF&pf_rd_m=ATVPDKIKX0DER&pf_rd_p=21517efd-b385-405b-a405-9a37af61b5b4&pd_rd_wg=j2I7n&pf_rd_r=VYD5JQFY2R13VKBK6SQ0&pf_rd_s=desktop-dp-sims&pf_rd_t=40701&pd_rd_w=rNJiI&pf_rd_i=desktop-dp-sims&pd_rd_r=5e6130f0-f604-11e8-8576-d18d8f0f6d94

will the battery keep the probably non-isolated outputs from generating noise as opposed to using an AC source?
Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: ReniPerez on December 04, 2018, 07:20:24 AM
Is anyone successfully powering a Line 6 HX Stomp with a battery now?  I've seen some postings about the Boxking BK-05 being able to do the job but it doesn't seem to supply the 3 amps that the HX Stomp lists as the requirement on its input.  I've read here that it's recommended to give it or any digital pedal it's own dedicated battery to avoid noise issues and I'm good with that but am concerned as to whether it's output is enough for the HX Stomp.

There is another battery I'm looking at (Naztech Volt 27,000 mah AC Power Bank) which supplies 3 amp out of it's QC USB-C output which I'm thinking if I use a USB-C to power plug adapter might do the trick.  Anyone think this will work?

https://www.amazon.com/Naztech-Power-Universal-Phones-Computer/dp/B072P1NFR7/ref=sr_1_10?ie=UTF8&qid=1543936469&sr=8-10&keywords=naztech
Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: Vaultnaemsae on December 20, 2018, 07:00:30 AM
https://www.omnicharge.co/products/omni-20/ (https://www.omnicharge.co/products/omni-20/)

I picked one of these up when it was still a kickstarter project. Yet to find any effects device that it can't power but the time of power supply varies depending on the powered device's draw.
Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: ReniPerez on December 20, 2018, 10:39:58 AM
Hi Vaultnaemsae.  I just took a look at the Omni 20 as a result of your post. 

A bit pricey at $249 but I don't think I've seen a power bank with a 100-watt A/C outlet.  I've seen 85 watts and did recently purchase an Omars 88Wh/24000mAh 80W AC Power Bank that can power the HX Stomp from the A/C outlet but it's pretty big.

I'm assuming you're powering the HX Stomp from the A/C outlet.  I'd like to try and power the HX with direct DC current if possible which I'm finding is.  I bought a Boxking BK05 rechargeable power supply as per Elantric's suggestion and using a current doubler and plug adaptor I'm able to power the HX so far with no problem though I worry a bit if underpowering it a bit will do any harm.  I talked to someone at Truetone who's experience with the HX Stomp is that it runs fine with 1 amp supplied to it which is what the current doubler provides.

I've also bought a Strymon Ojai 30 pedal power supply which takes 24 volts and powered it with an XTPower XT-20000QC2 PowerBank which has a 24-volt setting.  Despite the Boxking working, I'm concerned about the noise issues that Elantric mentioned in using it with more than one device so I either dedicate the Boxking to the HX Stomp or use the Strymon to power the HX and a couple of other pedals with isolated outputs.  I do love the form factor on the Boxking which is more compact than a Strymon with a power bank.

Hoping to do some testing on these with multiple pedals and will post the results.
Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: admin on December 20, 2018, 10:54:19 AM
Quote from: ReniPerez on December 20, 2018, 10:39:58 AM
Hi Vaultnaemsae.  I just took a look at the Omni 20 as a result of your post. 

A bit pricey at $249 but I don't think I've seen a power bank with a 100-watt A/C outlet.

Here's one - but it lacks a high current 9VDC Output

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/81TvXgzjBCL._SL1500_.jpg)
AC Outlet Portable Charger Battery Pack - 20000mAh 100W/110V(Max.) Travel Power Bank with Built in AC Outlet and 2 USB Ports for MacBook, MacBook Pro, Laptops, Smartphones, 2-Year Warranty
https://www.amazon.com/Outlet-Portable-Charger-Battery-Pack/dp/B07D2FS5CM/ref=sr_1_1_sspa?ie=UTF8&qid=1545331903&sr=8-1-spons&keywords=battery+pack++100-watt+A%2FC+outlet.&psc=1
[SINE WAVE TECHNOLOGY] Featuring Sine Wave Technology, FlePow AC Power Bank can safely power electronic devices by producing a stable AC output that is just as dependable and safe as the power you get from home. 2-YEAR WARRANTY! BUY WITH CONFIDENCE!
[20000mAh HIGH CAPACITY] Four 5000mA batteries (total of 20000mAh ) provide safer and more adequate power for charging a variety of smartphones, laptops, household electric appliances(90W). 10 power indicators allow you to easily grasp the battery level status.
[1 POWERFUL AC OUTLET & 2 SMART USB PORTS] A built-in AC outlet 100W/110V(max), 57-63HZ with the dust-proof hand-held cover protection is located above, which distinguishes the common product with a AC outlet located on the side and does not cause the power bank to protrude from the bottom. 2 USB ports and the DC cable output of 5V/4.8A(Max) allow the smart distribution of current to charge both devices simultaneously.
[INTELLIGENT TEMPERATURE CONTROL & INTELLIGENT PROTECTION SYSTEM] Built-in temperature sensing system; when it detects that the internal temperature of the power bank reaches to 47 ℃, the fan will automatically start cooling, and when the internal temperature of the power bank is below 47℃, the fan will stop working. With power consumption protection, short circuit protection, overcurrent protection and overvoltage protection, it can ensure safe charging and safe use.
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Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: admin on December 20, 2018, 10:55:31 AM
This one claims 120VAC @ 200watts

and has a 12VDC Output

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/71RTbmyq9mL._SL1500_.jpg)
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B0713XJBG2/ref=sspa_dk_detail_3?psc=1&pd_rd_i=B0713XJBG2&pd_rd_w=IflxZ&pf_rd_p=f0dedbe2-13c8-4136-a746-4398ed93cf0f&pd_rd_wg=6fSWN&pf_rd_r=WENBVW162J4CC12TRKSD&pd_rd_r=52058f29-0488-11e9-a244-c1f675b879f4
Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: ReniPerez on December 20, 2018, 11:08:40 AM
Thanks for those suggestions but I've already looked at them and am trying to get something a bit smaller that I might be able to install under a pedal board. 

I like the Boxking idea as it's compact and has plenty of outputs and I'm solely interested in powering effect devices such as the HX Stomp and GP-10 and a couple of pedals.  Now if someone could make something like the Boxking with isolated outputs and maybe a bit larger battery capacity, I'd jump all over that.  On that note, I did talk to someone at Truetone recently and, though they couldn't give me details, said that I might find an upcoming NAMM announcement of interest.
Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: ReniPerez on January 03, 2019, 08:44:29 AM
I just wanted to post an update on my search for a battery operated power solution to using an HX Stomp and GP-10 and the search is done. 

The BoxKing was excellent when using one or the other unit alone but when combined together a slight whining sound became evident. 

(https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=10662.0;attach=18605;image)
On the other hand, the Strymon Ojai 30 was as quiet with both units in play as it was with just one or the other being powered.  The isolation on the Ojai's outputs proved themselves in this regard.  I even added other effects to the remaining outputs on the Strymon to see if I could bring up the noise factor and the noise signature stayed the same.  This alone will improve the sound in my home studio when recording particularly with the GP-10 as the Strymon was quieter than the power supply included by Boss with the GP-10.

On the battery powering side, it's a bit more kludgy powering the Strymon with a battery pack versus having the built-in battery in the BoxKing BK05. 

(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/71wBmugCUXL._SL1500_.jpg)
I'm using an XTPower XT-20000QC2 which is a 20400 mah power bank that has a DC output that is switchable from 12, 15, 18, 20 and 24 volts. 
https://www.amazon.com/XTPower-XT-20000QC2-PowerBank-battery-20400mAh/dp/B06XWTY96G

In the 24 volt setting with an adaptor, it powers the Ojai with no problem even with all the outputs occupied though I have yet to see how long the battery will last when doing that.  Despite having to use the additional power bank, I'm happy with the Strymon and XTPower combination as I've now got something that's quieter when using mains as well as when on battery power.

Now to finally play some guitar.
Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: admin on January 10, 2019, 10:54:41 AM
https://www.thegearpage.net/board/index.php?posts/27808091/


(https://www.thegearpage.net/board/index.php?media/img_7691_640x480.140896/full&lightbox=1&update=1547141797)

ucnick wrote>
I use a BoxKing BK05 to power my latest lil' 'board, which consists of the following: Mini Cry Baby Wah > EP3 > HX Stomp (acquired at Xmas) > Dunlop DVP4 > Hotone EQ > Fender Micro DI. The HXS connects to the supply separately through a Joyo ZGP noise blocker,
(https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0223/5501/products/ZGP_1_1024x1024.jpg?v=1533237218)
https://www.cheaperpedals.com/products/joyo-zgp-power-noise-blocker-isolation-cable


and the other active pedals are daisy-chained to another output. Everything on a Pedaltrain Metro 20 frame.

When I first wired up the power, I found that the HXS power supply was contaminating the power, so I isolated it with the ZGP, which stopped the HXS from polluting the supply and now everything can run from the BK05.

The board had it's maiden voyage last Tuesday night at rehearsal, running through a DBR10, and passed with flying colors. The guys commented on how my board (which was a Helix) had shrunk. The BK05 had dropped from 4 LEDs to about 2 1/2 (the 3rd LED was dimming) after a 2 hr rehearsal, so it should work fine for a 4 hr set. I take a spare BK05 (and the charger as well) with me just in case.

FWIW, last night I received a Neweer double footswitch, fits nicely on the 'board, set FS4 & FS5 to control the page functions so that I can access the FS1 & FS2 switch assigns to select snapshots but also turn various blocks assigned to FS1 & FS2 on and off in the snapshots.


(https://www.thegearpage.net/board/index.php?media/img_7692_640x480.140897/full&lightbox=1&last_edit_date=1547141797)


Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: admin on January 10, 2019, 12:29:30 PM
Reference Power supply info

http://sound.whsites.net/articles/external-psu.htm

Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: admin on January 23, 2019, 11:36:42 AM
https://www.ebay.com/itm/COOLIS-200Wh-54000mAh-Portable-Purely-Sine-Wave-Lithium-Battery-Power-/292701656787

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COOLIS 200Wh-54000mAh Portable Purely Sine Wave Lithium Battery Power Inverter Generator Power Station, with Silent 110V AC/12V DC/5V USB Output


Product Details
Product Dimensions: 8.1 x 3 x 8.3 inches
Item Weight: 4.9 pounds
Shipping Weight: 4.98 pounds
Manufacturer: COOLIS
Item model number: HP150
Batteries: 1 Lithium ion batteries required. (included)
POWERFUL 110V AC + 12V DC + USB OUTPUTS: 150W Purely sine wave AC outlet; 120W DC outlet; 2* USB ports; Emergency bright LED light with SOS and Strobe
150W PURELY SINE WAVE: AC purely sine wave,exactly same as state municipal power supply,more purely electrical,more power,zero damage to your devices
BMS PROTECTION: Battery management system,prevent over charging,over voltage,low voltage,over current,over loading,short circuit
THE PACKAGE INCLUDING: 1 Generator / 1 Wall charger / 1 cigarette lighter / 1 manual

https://youtu.be/D4OcQ-44PkQ
https://youtu.be/wyAO2APff9I
Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: admin on March 05, 2019, 07:56:47 AM
Gigboard w/ battery power
PowerAdd PilotPro 32,000 mAH

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Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: admin on March 05, 2019, 07:58:55 AM
Ampero on battery power
PilotPro 32,000 mAH Battery pack

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Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: mmmmgtr on April 07, 2019, 04:57:01 PM
I consider myself fairly knowledgeable about the GR-55, but I just learned something about it that I was happy and surprised to find out....

I've been using a Pilot Poweradd to power my pedalboard for over a year now and it has been working very well.

When I tried to power things up today,  the GR-55 didn't respond, but the other pedals seemed to work fine.

Cutting to the chase... it turned out that the Poweradd voltage output someone got switched to 20v, not 9. Once I switched it back, the GR-55 worked just fine.  I don't know how it got switched. 

Anyway, it appears the GR-55 somehow gracefully handled the over-voltage by not responding while the other devices (Digitech Live Harmony and Tech 21 MIDI Mongoose) seemed to accept the over-voltage without issue.

I know many power circuits are designed to accept a wide range of voltages,  but I feel very lucky that I avoided any permanent damage. Hopefully I don't experience a delayed failure.

Is anyone aware of the details of how the GR-55 handles incorrect input voltage?
Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: admin on April 16, 2019, 11:42:08 AM
https://www.songbirdfx.com/

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Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: admin on May 30, 2019, 12:31:59 PM
https://youtu.be/kTLaUFRHqSM

https://youtu.be/4awpG89uG3Q
https://geargods.net/blinded-with-science/the-ultimate-guitar-and-pedal-power-supplies-adaptor-shootout/
https://youtu.be/RrCzXcLqOBk
Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: admin on September 09, 2019, 09:07:09 AM
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BELONG 5V 6V 9V 12V Power Bank 18650 Battery Charging Mobile Power Charger Box DIY
Description:

Charging input: 5V 2.1A
DC output: DC5.5*2.1-2.5MM  3.8V/2.5A;5V/2.1A;6V/1.8A;9V/1.1A;12V/0.7A( with current limiting and temperature protection)
USB port output: 5V/=2.1A(max)
Total output power : 75w(max) , DC port:65w(max)



can install 6 18650 battey or 3pcs(must install alternation)

it need unprotected 18650 battery 2000-6000MAH




voltage percentage, intuitive,
Dimesion:162mm*82mm*22mm L*W*H
$31
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07KSZGBGF?pf_rd_p=183f5289-9dc0-416f-942e-e8f213ef368b&pf_rd_r=RPNY5YTJRPKHQ3P9M19H

or $6
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32810736992.html?spm=a2g0s.9042311.0.0.6cd44c4dqEIlad
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B07G89BWLN/

QuoteFits 6 18650 cells with USB and 12v....9V...6V .....and 3.7 output!!!! And does a solid 2A. Maybe 3 if you really push it. The design isn't THE BEST....but the practicality of this product is THE BEST! I'm thinking of getting a few of these.

Uses:
Use as a power supply for my 18650 dedicated charger that shows exact capacity and voltage of the cell.

To power any automotive part that needs 12V.

Extremely useful to a electrician that needs the main voltage to test equipment.

It's also a 18650 charger.

Pairs great with usb solar panels to charge your 18650 for free.

Connect via 12v port with small portable mini inverter to power small things that are 120v.

Can remove the circuit board and just have as a 18650 battery box and have multiple stacks to make a large battery.

The ideas are limitless!
Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: Elantric on November 21, 2019, 09:05:12 PM
WALMART now the source for PowerAdd Pilot Pro 32,000mAh Power pack

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Poweradd Pilot Pro 32000mAh Power Bank
https://www.walmart.com/ip/Pilot-Bank-Digital-Pro-laptop-Chromebook-Notebook-32000mAh-PC-Poweradd-Charger-Tablets-USB-devices-charging-Ports-LCD-Smart-Portable-Pocket-Dual-Powe/571793906


The Roland / Boss MFX/RC-300 will require  a DC polarity reversing cable
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Voodoo Lab Cable 2.1mm Reverse Polarity Center Positive Right-Right 18"
https://www.amazon.com/Voodoo-Lab-Polarity-Positive-Right-Right/dp/B008NCVSU8/ref=pd_sbs_328_t_2/133-3627959-3894751
Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: ( . )( . ) on September 22, 2020, 04:28:58 AM
Do you guys think that the boxking will handle an HX Effects, a Digitech Freqout, a Chase Bliss Brothers, and a few other low power pedals simultaneously for at least a few hours?
Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: admin on November 05, 2020, 06:04:53 PM
Quote from: ( . )( . ) on September 22, 2020, 04:28:58 AM
Do you guys think that the boxking will handle an HX Effects, a Digitech Freqout, a Chase Bliss Brothers, and a few other low power pedals simultaneously for at least a few hours?
No

Need multiple  boxking batteries
Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: johnnyninja on January 02, 2021, 06:33:46 AM
I have my whole board (2700ma) powered by battery. It works great, but when I boot everything up at once, a couple pedals quickly do a second restart, and my Digitech Freqout starts, but won't function until I flip the momentary switch on and off. I got some inline rocker switches from amazon, but it seems that they are not mechanical switches and they let power through regardless of the switches state. What's strange is that if I put one right after the battery pack, the switch works. The switch doesn't work when I put it down stream between two daisy chain plugs, or even right at a pedals power input. Strange. I don't understand what's happened other than the current going through the switch is overriding it's capacity?

Anyway, I'm searching online for a mechanical inline barrel switch, but can't find anything. Anyone have a solution?
I'd even consider putting a small panel on the board with switches and run power from that.
Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: admin on December 04, 2021, 07:27:42 AM
Many Pedal Board Power supplies reviewed  / compared
https://stinkfoot.se/power-supplies
Title: Re: DIY Battery Power Ideas - Poweradd , BoxKing, Tourtek
Post by: Elantric on October 27, 2023, 06:32:13 PM
This is powering many devices

( (12V@3A)Headrush MX5, (19V@2.5A) SPARK 40 AMP )

With Headrush MX5 @ 12V , After 3 hours Battery pack  indicates 75% remaining power

(https://m.media-amazon.com/images/I/71105Tas9QL._AC_SX679_.jpg)

Krisdonia Portable Laptop Charger (TSA-Approved) 92.5Wh/25000mAh Travel Laptop Power Bank External Battery Bank
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B076GYGR6M/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&th=1

TYPE-C outputs 5V to 12V. Can't charge 20V TYPE-C laptop from TYPE-C port.

2. Can charge 20V TYPE-C laptop from DC-OUT port with the included TYPE-C converter.

4. Set the voltage and then plug DC cable into the DC-OUT port.

5. Can charge laptops Max.90W-100W.

Tips:

Low shutdown current for USB & TYPE-C ports: 50mA

Low shutdown current for DC-OUT port: 100mA

High shutdown current for DC-OUT port: 5V / 8.4V / 9V / 12V >3A; 16V / 20V >4.7A