VG-99 - How to make D-Beam "sticky"

Started by op111, October 31, 2008, 07:39:24 AM

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op111

Hi all,

Does anyone know the secret to making values set by the D-Beam not revert back to MIN when you take your hand away?

I want to use the D-Beam to set things like volume and feedback level etc, but it only works when my hand is over the sensor.  I want to move take my hand up and down to find the right level, and then take it away leveling things at that level.  Can this be done?

Thanks
Peter 

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mousetrapreplica

I just tried that, but the 'Latch' mode only makes to D-Beam go from its defined minimum to its defined maximum and vice versa, with no in between settings. Nonetheless, that is useful information I may use in the future, cheers!
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mooncaine

Check out the settings I used in the patch I uploaded today, "phastian phreeze".

In short: use a Control Assign. Choose dbeam's V. Set the values you want it to toggle between. Set it latch. Then set the Range to a really small interval.

mousetrapreplica

This doesn't make it 'sticky' though, it just changes is directly from the minimum to the maximum but tempered by the range settings.

Try it with the D-Beam altering the delay time(for example) to hear what I mean.
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VG-99, into RC-50 loopstation into Mackie Onyx 400F into PA
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mooncaine

Weird. Works for me. I just tested it with a random patch, and set it to switch the A/B balance. Don't forget to use a Control Assign, not the more obvious D-Beam Vertical setting. I'm not sure how to make this clear without a picture... hm, I'll include 2 pics of the Editor screen.

Maybe it's how you're waving at the beam. If your hand crosses the beam twice, it toggles twice. Try waving sideways across it. Or try it from farther away.

The point of setting the range values to 0 and 10 (or even 0 and 1) is so that you don't have to find a magic distance between your hand and the machine. It'll trigger whether your hand is close, or far away.

This means that, if you find it's too sensitive for your style, you can mess with the range controls later. First, just try waving at it differently, assuming you're using one of the "Control Assign" slots instead of the D Beam V slot, among the control assignments.

mousetrapreplica

Mooncaine,

thanks again for trying to help here, but I don't think you've understood what is being asked.
For example, if I have the D-Beam controlling Delay time between 1ms and 1000-ms, if I put my hand at, say, 800ms (or any value which is not the minimum or maximum), and then horizontally took it away, I want it to stay at 800ms, as opposed to reverting to the minimum or maximum setting when the hand is taken away(which is what happens).

I have concluded that you can't make an 'in-between value' *stick*, after your hand is taken away.
I will have to make do with the ribbon controller instead.

Case closed?
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mooncaine

Ah, now I understand.

Yep, I think you're right, it can't be done with the d-beam. That was one of the things I wanted to do with the Filter. I love the Filter effects, but I don't like it that filter control springs back to some preset value when I take my hand from the d-beam. It'd help if I could push down the filter, using the d-beam V, and leave the filter there.

Ribbon is cool for these types of controls, though. Very cool.

Brent Flash

Quote from: op111 on October 31, 2008, 07:39:24 AM
Hi all,

Does anyone know the secret to making values set by the D-Beam not revert back to MIN when you take your hand away?

I want to use the D-Beam to set things like volume and feedback level etc, but it only works when my hand is over the sensor.  I want to move take my hand up and down to find the right level, and then take it away leveling things at that level.  Can this be done?

Thanks
Peter 
I know this is not what you are looking for, but for filter and some other effects that are only on the beam or ribbon you can assign a CV pedal to work these so you can let them stick at the sweet spot if you wish.