GT-100- how can I saturate with an overdrive/distortion a gt-100 pre-amp ?

Started by mantra, April 12, 2022, 08:52:49 AM

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mantra

Hi
I'm used to use mostly overdirve  or distortion to saturate my real  tube amp like fender vibrolux or twin or marshall 800

on boss gt-100 there are several preamps , i use only fx floorboard , and as usual i get alway bad results

1)
should I play with overdrive and preamp direct mix?
2)
and in fx flooboard preamp direct mix is related only to the speaker or the preamp effect?
3)
last question ,speakers in preamp are active only if i select in the global settings line/phone ? If i select everyhing else ,boss won't use the speakers settings in the preamp right?
4) and most importat , Can I saturate with a boss gt-100 overdrive/distortion a gt-100 preamp ? and how?

about boss gt-100 , can I saturate with an overdrive or distortion a boss preamp ? and how ?


thanks



admin

Read the PDF guides which were developed by users of prior Boss GT units , all tips&tricks still apply to GP-100

Here
https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=88.0

mantra

Quote from: admin on April 12, 2022, 10:17:45 AM
Read the PDF guides which were developed by users of prior Boss GT units , all tips&tricks still apply to GP-100

Here
https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=88.0
hi
look i read the manuals , i have in my native language and in english
and the only thing i can find it's

about preamp there is only these
i got read the manual , read the manual
seeing it's a nice forum , i guess that somebody can help me ,maybe sharing their knowledge  , experience and some advises , that's all
i have the manual ,but i'm asking few question how to saturare an preamp with an overdrive , that's all


QuoteDIRECT MIX
*1
0–100 Adjusts the volume of the direct sound .
QuoteLEVEL 0–100
Adjusts the volume of the entire preamp .
*  Be careful not to raise the Level setting too
high .


about the overdrive there is only

QuoteDIRECT MIX 0–100 Adjusts the volume of the direct sound .
Quote
EFFECT LEVEL 0–100 Adjusts the volume of the OD/DS sound .

gumtown

placement in the signal chain of the OD/DS, before the preamp.
Also try a compressor, either before or after the OD/DS.
Free "GR-55 FloorBoard" editor software from https://sourceforge.net/projects/grfloorboard/

admin

Quote from: gumtown on April 12, 2022, 01:20:00 PM
placement in the signal chain of the OD/DS, before the preamp.
Also try a compressor, either before or after the OD/DS.

Concepts all explained in deep detail within the PDF docs linked here

Learn to Program Roland/Boss MultiFX Processors
https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=88.0

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mantra

Hi

but is it normal i had to use a patch like fender.syx to hear at least how sounds the neck + middle or middle +bridge pickups on seveal fenders usa ?

and I have just record via usb and reaper just some chords ,simple open chords and they are so dull , muddy , can't have a brigheter sound in the distortion to to distinguish the low E , A , D and so  on,

the Older gt-10 & gt-1000 are really better , brighter and i can distinguish  the notes .. and i have tried several gt-100 , maybe i could try to load an older firmware if i can



and based on youtube




I have used an ibanez prestige jappan 2 humbuckers alnico 5 ,neck position

thanks


aliensporebomb

I'd be curious about signal path for both units.  That's where you can nail it down more exactly.
My music projects online at http://www.aliensporebomb.com/

GK Devices:  Roland VG-99, Boss GP-10, Boss SY-1000.

mantra

Quote from: aliensporebomb on April 15, 2022, 09:08:12 AM
I'd be curious about signal path for both units.  That's where you can nail it down more exactly.
Hi @aliensporebomb
I guess i have found it , i see in your signature , you use a GP-10 ,don't you?
look i have found , and i use Ctrl to enable or disable
i add 2 screenshots , maybe could be usefull for you
i can upload a patch
aliensporebomb tell if i 's what you looking for
sorry for my poor english
cheers
gt-10


gt-100 ,seeing it's a gt-100 subforum

teleholic

Hi all sorry to revive this thread but I figured my issue is close enough to warrant not opening up a new thread. I'm new to 4cm with a GT-100 (hooked up to DSL100HR).

I reconfigured my old patches activating the S/R loop and I get great real Marshall tones and can pepper in my fx no problem very thing sounds great except for one thing. I figured I could do the old tried and tested tubescreamer saturating the amp for leads but no matter how I try the sound isn't good.

I've tried before and after S/R loop, I've tried diff OD models, tried the custom OD model that lets you customise every parameter but every time it just reduces the basic Marshall tone (whether channel 1's clean gain or channel 2's od) to a small sounding fizzy distorted tone whereas if I just placed any ts type pedal in front of the amp it can't sound bad or thin no matter the settings. Other fx running are a light comp first in the chain, S/R loop, preamp off, light noise gate, delay and reverb. Any help or idea is greatly appreciated thanks!

gumtown

A 100 watt tube amp needs to be up quite loud to appreciate the drive tones,
 I recommend something like a power brake/power soak block to reduce the output level to the speaker cabinet, while being able to flex the output tubes with some drive.
Big tubes amps usually need to be loud enough to be peeling paint off the walls to achieve that desirable tube tone, that's why some of the smaller 5~30 watt tube amps are so great.
Free "GR-55 FloorBoard" editor software from https://sourceforge.net/projects/grfloorboard/

teleholic

Hey gumtown thanks for the reply! This isn't actually my home setup it's for work in a club. The master is around 3 o clock and channel volume around 11-12 o clock as there's a loud drummer and keyboard player so the amp is actually really loud already. The tones I get before turning on the OD block are really great, typical fat crunchy Marshall sounds it's just I don't understand why when that od block is turned on it sounds so thin and fizzy