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QuoteI've now spent some additional time with the Catalyst 100 playing through the on-board sounds and effects.Overall, really impressed with this little combo. It's very easy to dial in useable tones and make quick adjustments as required. I think all of the in-built amps are great and cover a wide range of desirable tones. The controls feel good and responsive, much like a real amp, and the overall sound and 'feel' in the room is very nice.It's a million miles from my Powercab 212 (which will shortly be on eBay).The included effects are great and will be instantly recognisable to anybody with experience of HX products. I don't mind being limited to a single effect at any one time - in fact I rather like the simplicity. The delays and modulations cover 95% of anything you'd ever need. The pitch effects aren't for me personally but no harm in having them available.One minor usability criticism - when cycling through effects you have to press and hold the EFFECT button for two seconds to enter Effect Selection mode. You can then cycle through the different effects. Sometimes it's nice to audition each effect for a while before cycling to the next one - so it would be nice if we could stay in Effect Selection mode indefinitely to avoid the whole two-second press each time we want to cycle to a new effect. Maybe this is an setting within the editor software which I haven't installed.So yeah, overall it's a great little combo amp and it ticks a lot of boxes. I will mostly use it as a powered cab with a Helix, so for me the in-built amps and effects are a bonus feature. But I'm sure the majority will use this as a regular combo amp with the in-built sounds and controls and be very happy indeed.EDIT: Also, the in-built tuner works really well
QuoteDay 3 with the Catalyst 100.Today I programmed the Helix Floor to control the Catalyst via MIDI. Ended up with snapshots for all six amps and individual stomps for boost, effect and reverb. Also assigned gain to the expression pedal. Worked really well I'm still loving the Catalyst as a powered cab for the Helix. The built-in amps sound really great but I think the Helix amps are also sounding amazing and the Helix just allows for more control, especially in pedal edit mode.Also for Catalyst owners, there is a very recent firmware update now available so might be worth grabbing the latest Line 6 Updater and checking which version you're currently on. I updated yesterday and it went smoothly
QuoteAs requested, I tested this by strumming a chord, letting it ring, and then changing channels.Yes, there is a small gap in sound when switching channels, regardless of whether it's the same amp or not.The image shows a recording of switching channels between the same amp model. The zoomed-in graphic deceptively makes it look like a huge gap but it's actually very tiny, approx only 150ms - see the timeline at the bottom.The top track is USB 1 (wet signal). The bottom track is USB 3 (dry signal). Obviously the dry signal wasn't affected.Changing banks is exactly the same.Personally, I wouldn't worry about this. Nobody really changes channel "mid-strum" so you'll never really notice it. I'm only posting this here because you specifically asked about it
QuoteFor those planning to use their Catalyst without a Helix or other modeller, as if it's a real amp (!) ... this has more balls by far than any other digital amp I've ever owned or tried.I'm not referring to just volume per se - although my 100 is easily loud enough - but the voicing in combination with the chosen speaker gives it loads of oomph. I'm using the high gain model (and I don't ever shake my gtr for 'vibrato' haha) ... there's real substance and responsiveness to the overdriven sounds that's unlike all of the others I've experienced ...Blackstar, Boss, Fender, Marshall, Vox etc.What I do particularly notice on the crunchy settings (boutique etc) is a feeling of tweedy compression that's absolutely perfect if you play in the joncordy style (excellent playing always Jon, but different from my own style, typically). The high gain mode, which will be my most-used, works really well in cleaning up somewhat with your gtr vol pot, and can be easily balanced with the boost to cover a lot of ground, just on that one channel. The tones are very far removed from the artificial & uninspiring driven sounds generated by most digital amps. If you play like you mean it, Catalyst delivers.Clean tones & the FX are absolutely fine, and the overall value is, frankly, ridiculous. The simplicity of operation is a breath of fresh air.If you think you need one, I'd recommend that you just go buy it. Nothing else comes close, IMHO, at these price points.
QuoteReceived my Catalyst 100 today and finally got to spend about an hour with it this evening.Now the main reason that I bought this amp is because I was about to pull the trigger on a Line 6 PowerCab 112 to monitor my Simplifier DLX but then when this amp became available to order, what sold me was the ability to flip a power amp switch on the Return of the effects send and use my Simplifier. Without derailing this thread to talk about the results, I'll simply say it delivered in spades! It's sounds awesome!!Now for the Catalyst 100...- Clean setting sounds great overall!- I really like the Boutique but notice an idle hum on both that setting and Chime. It can be controlled by reducing the Master Volume but even turned down, I wouldn't call it quiet.- Like Boutique, Chime has a little hum to it but also the setting is a bit softer (in volume) overall compared to Boutique.- Crunch channel is quieter (like Clean) and sounds fantastic!- Dynamic is just fine as is High Gain which I honestly spent little to know time with.Effects are great but nothing overall you exciting - although the Mod settings like Octiver (think that's what it's called) is fun!Reverbs are good - I tend to lean towards Plate so dialed that up and was good with it.Didn't really intend on writing a detailed review but those are my quick thoughts off having spent only a little amount of time with it.With that said, would be curious to see if anyone else notices the slight idle hum on the Boutique and Chime channels.
Quotegot the Cat100 today and spent a bit of time with it. For comparison history, I returned a Katana quickly - thought it was harsh and trebly in spite of deep dive high cuts, etc. and I felt like it went from off to too loud/hard even in low wattage mode. I had the smaller Nextone for a while and the different tube power modes came across as a gimmick and complicated the amp for not much benefit IMO.The Catalyst on first pass is much more my style (not as harsh, more control at low volume). The clean and lower gain models take overdrive pedals in front surprisingly well so that could make it a keeper for when I don't want to heat up tubes. I ran an Iridium into the power amp input and felt like its Chime model sounds smoother right away compared to the on-board Catalyst Chime. Could this be a killer "power engine"?Clean, Boutique, and Crunch were highlights on first pass and seem easy to get a working tone. Chime has something different in the midrange that may require some extra tweaking
QuoteI've put a few hours on the amp now and it's definitely staying. I've kept it in manual mode the whole time and I'm loving the simplicity and the all in one nature of it. Being able to add a bit of delay and reverb is all I need for most things, but it's fun to be able to go off on a tangent when inspiration strikes.And that's the thing - this amp is inspiring to play. The six amps are really an embarrassment of riches. I had to force myself to switch between them just to put the amp through it's paces but each amp stands on it's own and has it's own character. Don't be afraid to go extreme with knob settings either—there are terrific sounds to be found at the extremes and the boosts really bring some of the amps to life. Tons of tones in this thing.Some notes:When switching channels, don't expect to be wowed immediately - I found myself switching models and scowling at first at the sound, but just used my ears to readjust knobs and quickly found a new sweet spot. Each amp is really that different.The power scaling switch is super handy - I'm not sure if it changes the tone at all, but having more sweep of the volume is just super helpful when you're trying to get the perfect amount of volume for the situation.Learn all the controls from the amp - I connected the editor for a bit, but it's just a better experience dealing with the amp directly - you can turn off the noise gate and move the fx pre and post pretty easily once you know the moves and just less tech to mess with.Headphone sound is ok - you definitely need to tweak with the cab and mic settings using the editor for this in my opinion - it's serviceable but it doesn't match the tone that comes via the cab and speaker. IR support would be cool in the future if it's possible somehow. Also it's a little annoying that every time you switch cabs that it resets the mic to the 57, forcing you to reselect a mic. I don't see why those settings can't stay independent.Would be nice to be able to toggle fx type on the reverb channel - not a huge deal but would be cool to be able to combine delay and phaser/univibe etc.Super happy with the 60 - it's plenty loud, full sounding, and digging how the open back sends sound around the room. Has plenty of bass though it is probably exaggerated a bit by the resonance of the wood floors - will see how different it sounds in the basement with cement. I tried it a bit with my HX Stomp and initial sounds were nice - but again found myself drifting back to simplicity of the amp itself. Great to have the power amp in option though.I definitely recommend checking this out - I can't believe this thing costs the same as a Strymon pedal!forgot to mention I ran some backing tracks through the USB/iPhone connection - sounded surprisingly good for not being an FRFR speaker!
QuoteMy Catalyst 200 arrived from the mail yesterday and first impressions were "Ooof, does it smell like industrial glue". Definitely fresh off the boat.That said, I would highly recommend this amp to someone who don't like tweaking and just want to play guitar. It "feels" close enough to a tube amp where you can just shut up and play. The eq/gain knobs respond like your typical tube amps where you can just raise eq/gain to 5 and tweak to taste. Quality of life features, such as the power selector and linear volume controls, essential make this amp a "Transformer" that can turn from a gigging amp to a well behaved practice amp. In comparison, your typical 50w tube combo has volume levels that goes from barely audible to gigging decibels when you tweak from 2 to 3.Compared to the Boss Katana, this amp overall has a warmer, vintage, more "tubey" vibe. The Boss Katana has a more "heavy rock god" feel to it with less of a "tubey" vintage vibe. That said, I never deep dived into either amp's software so this is just based on my experience on tweaking from the top panels.Another difference I found was that the Boss Katana various amp selections "felt" like different channels of the same amp while the Line6 Catalyst amp selections each felt entirely like a different amp. Hard to say which is a better approach so different strokes for different folks, I guessXLR out will use the speaker sim from the Catalyst. XLR out is fixed at line level, so master has no effect on XLR out - but I believe the channel volumes will still be in play so you can balance relative volumes between channels/banks.
Quotewhy not include a cable in the box for this? I mean how much can it add?
QuoteNot a cable. We're talking about 5-pin MIDI DIN ports, which were omitted from Catalyst 60's back panel to ensure Line 6 could reach our target margin after paying for parts, tooling, labor, and shipping. Presumably other, less obvious things were also omitted like, I dunno, it not being 65 watts or something. To be honest, I don't know because Rick is Catalyst's PM and he's clearly not going to share internal ex-factory documents with TGP.So here we are at Line 6 and say we want to make a $499 2x12, a $399 1x12, and a $299 1x12. In very rough terms, the $399 version's parts, tooling, labor, and shipping collectively needs to cost 20% less than the $499 version to meet the same margin. So we're looking at one less speaker, a smaller amplifier, less wood, less tolex, great! Still, difficult decisions are often made to get there.However, the $299 version's parts/tooling/labor/shipping collectively needs to cost 25% less than the $399 version. That means we need to remove notably more elements from a product that's already had 20% of its elements removed. Except this time we can't remove a speaker, the amplifier is 60% as powerful instead of 50%, the cabinet isn't that much smaller... so what do we do? At this level, the decisions are MUCH harder and at the run rates we plan for, it means we may sweat pennies.Admittedly, it's not exactly that cut-and-dry. As you might expect, we'll sell more Catalyst 60s than the other two simply because of its lower price. So its higher run rate is taken into account to warrant a slightly lower margin than what we need to reach with the 100 and 200-watt SKUs, in part because development is amortized across more units sold. But for the most part, if we want to make a product and sell it for $XXX, the parts, tooling, labor, and shipping cannot be over a certain percentage of that street price. Most companies use a force-multiplier, but it's always a rough guess based on a myriad of variables. Thankfully we have really smart people to figure out the Excel spreadsheets and Tableaux dashboards so we can focus on the fun design stuff.I'm actually having trouble thinking of product lines that don't bifurcate in the interest of pricing tiers. Toasters, computers, TVs, video game consoles, cars, planes, guns, refrigerators, bicycles, tortilla chips, cereal boxes, internet plans, streaming services, flowers, weddings, funerals, caskets, guitars, saxophones, nuclear missiles, beer, whiskey, wine, motorcycles, boats, yachts, savings accounts, baseball bats, windows, doors, doorknobs, flooring, concert tickets, plane tickets, hotel stays, dinners at restaurants, shoes, hats, furniture, jewelry, paint, cleaning supplies, chemicals, sunglasses, phones, tablets, cameras, utensils, cosmetics, vacuum cleaners... almost everything you buy has a more expensive version with desirable elements or traits not found in the less expensive version. You'd think it'd be obvious to apply the same logic to guitar amps, but apparently not.Last edited: Mar 16, 2022
Quote from: hsuru4u on April 11, 2022, 08:37:34 AMLOVE THAT TONE IN THE VID ABOVE.... its spanky yet cleans up well and has definition..with that slight hair that can open up to massive tone... what amps does he use? reminds me of gary clark jr tone..and he uses p90's alot..
Quote from: dazco on May 28, 2022, 07:06:21 AMIn the quote above that starts with "day 3 with the catalyst" the guy is saying theres an update. Mine shows the initial release version and i don't see a newer one. Whats going on there? Was there an update and if so why don't i see it ? When i use the updater it appears to be ready to update as i go thru the steps but i stopped when i got to the accept or decline screen. It appears there are no updates and the only version is the initial release, 1.02.