TalkBox on SY-1000

Started by Harry1227, November 08, 2021, 01:19:54 PM

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Harry1227

Hello everyone. I was saddened that the SY-1000 does not have the TalkBox effect. The Humanizer effect is similar, but cannot smoothly morph between vowels when operated with an expression pedal. Sorry for my bad english.
Therefore, I decided to try to do something similar to the TalkBox effect based on a parametric equalizer. Initially, I was afraid that when you change the frequency and Q of the filter using the expression pedal, clicks may occur, but the SY-1000 pleased me.
Although the frequencies and Q-factors of the filter change between discrete values ​​when you pedal it is almost imperceptible. It seems to have turned out well. The most interesting thing is that you can customize the extreme points of automation to your taste. For example, I don't like how harsh all WAH effects sound when placed after an overdriven amp.
In this patch I made a TalkBox similar effect, which sounds soft, but can be boomy and muddy for your taste. Again, if you edit the pedal automation, you can get the best TalkBox for your taste.

EXP1 - in the upper position corresponds to the vowel "A", in the lower - "O"
Ctl1 & Ctl3 - disable / enable the effect. CTL - Master Delay TAP & ON / OFF

CodeSmart

Just ordered a MXR 222 talkbox. Always wanted one... I think ::) Hopefully fun mouth gymnastics ahead ;D
But I got more gear than I need...and I like it!

gumtown

The Boss VE-500 does a pretty good talk-box effect, plug your guitar in (dry is best) and it does a few different types of talk-box/vocoder type effects, plus the usual chord tracking for harmonies, and hard auto tune effects.



Free "GR-55 FloorBoard" editor software from https://sourceforge.net/projects/grfloorboard/

alexmcginness

VG-88V2, GR-50, GR-55, 4 X VG-99s,2 X FC-300,  2 X GP-10 AXON AX 100 MKII, FISHMAN TRIPLE PLAY,MIDX-10, MIDX-20, AVID 11 RACK, BEHRINGER FCB 1010, LIVID GUITAR WING, ROLAND US-20, 3 X GUYATONE TO-2. MARSHALL BLUESBREAKER, SERBIAN ELIMINATOR AMP. GR-33.

roachone

I had this for awhile. I thought it done a good job especially for something that you didn't have to use a mouthpiece. https://www.tc-helicon.com/product.html?modelCode=P0CGU

stub

Quote from: alexmcginness on November 10, 2021, 03:19:36 AM
Heres one from Smash on the VG-99.
https://soundcloud.com/smashmashups/talk-box-vg99-demo

Heres the link for the patch.

https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=10351.msg74617#msg74617

WOW, that patch demo sounds amazing!!! Though it doesn't allow full-on "talk box" action, it's still such an iconic tone.

Any idea what the basic building blocks are for that? Twin peaks filtering?

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QuoteAny idea what the basic building blocks are for that? Twin peaks filtering?

Download the patch and review in VG-99 Editor


https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=10351.msg74605#msg74605
QuoteWhat is this?
This patch is my attempt at recreating the classic Heil Talk box sound. Really not easy on to do! I know there's been a few of these  - this is me just throwing my hat into the ring (rather belatedly!) ;D

You MUST have an FC300 to play this patch and just like the real thing it needs full range speakers - sorry!

Playing the patch

EXP1 is the vocal "sweep" from 'U' to 'A' up to down respectively. there is a definite sweet spot around the first quarter of movement - the trick is not to make fast movements, it tends to sound more natural if you can slow your foot down!

GK3 vol is guitar volume to back off some gain if desired and Exp2 is Roland standard FV volume

(FC-300) EXP1 switch puts it into auto mode which does a sort of touch wah thing so basically responding to how hard you play.

COSM chain A is all for the manual version, COSM chain B is for the auto version so if your going to tweak anything remember to copy across from A to B  8)

the VG-99 MOD2 Humanizer effect is the principal tool to emulate a Talk Box


stub

Thanks for linking all that info! Makes sense!

jcifuentes

great job. I'm new to the sy coming from Gp-10 and gr55. Bon Jovi up! cheers