SY-1000 - FAQ

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Quote from: hippietim, post: 30109462, member: 10684For the first example pictured, which jack would you plug your FS5U into for CTL 3 and CTL 5?  And how exactly do you trigger CTL 5?

Use the available EXP/CTL jack you prefer

You have a choice for Expression Pedal or single or dual CTL pedals

QuoteHow exactly do you trigger all four CTLs?
You would need two FS-6 or FS7 Dual foot switches, each with a TRS cable  -
For example:
one FS-7 Dual CTL Switch pedal plugged into  SY-1000 jack named: CTL 3,4/EXP1

second FS-7 Dual CTL Switch pedal plugged into  SY-1000 jack named: CTL 5,6/EXP2

then create Control Assignments for CTL3, CTL4, CTL5, CTL6 in Boss Tone Studio

(There are 2000 FX targets available - listed here:
https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=26924.msg203106#msg203106

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Quote from: Maudibe on March 04, 2020, 05:32:04 AM
Yea, let us all know how that MIDI Y-Splitter works out :)

Talking of splitters, I have gone the same way with the 13Pin - i.e., a splitter rather than the U-20 thing. Stupid price (both the cable Roland Official, and the box). But went down the road of the official cable to belay any fears of damaging the units.

The cable was 1/3rd the price of the box - but still unbelievably expensive when you see what it is.

The box would have been nice to mute inputs in one press, but can achieve the same by just using the volume pedal or assigning a switch on the GR-55 + SY-1000 to mute the output of either unit.

Should point out one seldom mentioned method to run two GK Processors with the Roland GK13 Y Cable feeding their GK Input, while stereo outputs feed a separate Mixer 





Get a EV-30 Dual Expression pedal - enable the invert switch and from the EV-30 feed one TRS cable into each GK Processor external EXP input  and Assign external  EXP to control Total Volume

In this manner the EV30 will " Pan" between the two GK Processors

https://www.boss.info/us/products/ev-30/


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Quote from: aliensporebomb, post: 30113962, member: 49053
How do you drive software instruments on an iPad via one of these boxes?   USB from the VG or GP or SY to ???   Can it be done?

Enable Guitar to MIDI on SY-1000
https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=27110.0


Use a USB<>MIDI Class Compliant cable from SY-1000 / VG-99 5 pin MIDI OUT


https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=8393.0


into Apple USB Camera Adapter


https://www.apple.com/shop/product/MK0W2AM/A/lightning-to-usb-3-camera-adapter


If its a recent iPhone with no headphone out - need a USB class compliant Audio interface with 5 pin MIDI I/O

https://motu.com/en-us/products/m-series/m2/


or the Korg PlugKey
https://www.korg.com/us/products/computergear/plugkey/

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Quote from: MaxTwang, post: 30117141, member: 31819THX.  I tried the various Godins 15-20 years ago and the nylons tracked the best -  if you could get used to nylon strings.  Looks like the Roland Ready & Godin SA offerings aren't what they used to be.
An old Roland Ready Strat or GC-1 actually works well  - both employ a divided Mag hex PU and deliver better tone vs the Godins with spiky piezos

Like the VG-8, on SY-1000 the strings are the oscillators and the guitar type plays a major role in bulk of the SY-1000 sounds

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Quote from: thebrushwithin on March 05, 2020, 12:24:43 PM
If I can, I would like to rack mount my SY 1000, however, does anyone know what CC#, if any, can be assigned to the hold feature?
For instance, when using my GR30, HOLD cannot be accessed via MIDI CC#, but I cannot find anything about this in the manual, for the SY 1000.

Its user assignable to a MIDI CC#

Review the 2000 FX Assignment targets for SY-1000 Guitar Mode here

search on "HOLD" as each of the Three FX blocks have their own "SOUNDHOLD" functions, as well as each OSC SYNTH has a HOLD
https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=26924.msg203106#msg203106

FX Target #
165 INST1:OSC SYNTH:OSC HOLD MODE
495 INST2:OSC SYNTH:OSC HOLD MODE
825 INST3:OSC SYNTH:OSC HOLD MODE
999 INST:CONTROL INST1 HOLD
1000 INST:CONTROL INST2 HOLD
1001 INST:CONTROL INST3 HOLD
1002 INST:CONTROL INST ALL HOLD
1252 FX1:SOUND HOLD TRIGGER
1522 FX2:SOUND HOLD TRIGGER
1792 FX3:SOUND HOLD TRIGGER



For details on each search on "HOLD" in the SY-1000 REFERENCE MANUAL (01)
https://static.roland.com/assets/media/pdf/SY-1000_reference_eng01_W.pdf










Boss SY-1000 F.A.Q.
https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=26924.0

Elantric

Quote from: LarryHeil on March 06, 2020, 07:13:10 AM
Szilard, where did you find a subsonic filter for the piezo hex pickups ? I have a OPT-1 that was made for my GR55, doubt that it could be used on SY1000. My Godin is  a LGXT with RMC piezo pickup. (Godin has used a few different hex pickups over the years) I also have a Forshage  Orion with graph tech piezo hex.

Many external GK 13 Sub Harmonic Filters are listed here
https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=17667.msg125868#msg125868

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QuoteIn addition to the screen issues I had with my first SY-1000, I had the problem of the SY-1000 shutting off before it fully booted up.


Are you sure you just didn't push in hard enough? I did this once or twice by barely pushing the button in to get connection by being in a hurry to turn it on  and it booted up and then went off right away but I noticed I didn't push the button in all the way as the button wasn't pushed in like it should have been!

Sure way to know is when you push it in hold it there for a second or two before releasing. After I started doing this I haven't had the accidental on/off thing happen.

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String Dampers - Improves DSP Modeling, Alt Tuning, GTR-MIDI
https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=1397.0


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https://www.facebook.com/groups/BossSY1000Users/
QuoteHello, I want to use SY-1000 with GK3 for my guitar with Nashville tuning strings. It will working correct?

SY-1000 is designed for guitars in Standard Tuning at A=440Hz
If your guitar is in NASHVILLE Tuning - where lower strings are tuned an octave higher than standard pitch , then you may experience problems attempting to play above the 12th fret.
Roland / Boss GK DSP Modeling systems (VG-8, VG-88, GP-10, SY-1000 ) include Bandpass frequency filters to prevent mistrigering and anomalies
Your Mileage may vary!


Elantric

https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=3912.msg53452#msg53452
I'm using these settings below with much success using my 2012 Godin xTSA (RMC) and stock GR-55 (rev 1.50 firmware ) and Boss GP-10

Thanks Jim Williams!



On both my xTSA'a - the COSM Modleling sounds most excellent .

This is AFTER I follow Jim Williams Piezo Setup.

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In System, Set the GK PU type to:
PU type ;  PIEZO R
Scale :  ST
PU phase : NORMAL
PU direction : NORMAL
S1/S2 position : NORMAL
NORM PU gain : 0 dB
PIEZO TONE  LOW  :    -2
PIEZO TONE HIGH  :   -3

"DIS"
10.0 mm all strings (does not matter GR-55 ignores this for all Piezo PU selections)

"SEN"
Set the sensitivities for all strings to "50" average (+/-5  - that is all my strings have sensitivity set in the range between 45-55 .
(Note: Godin's older than 2012, might work better with Sensitivity set to "0")

"VEL"
Velocity Dynamics :  2
Play-Feel         :  2 (may vary depending on how you play synth tones)
Low-Velocity Cut  :  8-9

"NUA"
Nuance Dynamics   :  4
Nuance Trim       :  4

"DOW"
Shift   :   0
===============


Be sure you are using Headphones when forming opinion on the sounds  / patches of your Roland gear.!!


Ive voiced prolifically on this forum my preference for GK-3 type pickups for use with Roland COSM Modeling systems , but there have been some minor incremental developments  / improvements in the RMC electronics over the years. I admit bulk of my prior opinions on RMC piezo pickups were based upon a 1998 era RMC Piezo Polydrive 1 install in a Les Paul feeding  a Roland VG-8, where I could always "hear" the underlying RMC piezo characteristics in the VG-8's output, regardless of any patch or tweaking.

In contrast, the GR-55 with firmware 1.50 , and using Jim Williams Piezo setup suggestions

https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=3965.msg53317#msg53317

and string sensitivity at an average of "50" for all strings with this new Godin xTSA - the GR-55 sounds wonderful. True the GR-300 preset still has low frequency handling noises and random noises, (the optional RMC OPT-01 sub filter board should cure this) -


In context when using only the 13 pin cable. The Godin's Normal Mag PU"S (Or Mono Piezo Signal  - depending on the guitar volume control settings) will  feed pin #7, on the 13 pin cable where the GR-55 can act as a "GT-100 like" COSM Amp Modeler. All audio output occurs at the GR-55 Stereo Output jacks.
My first order of business was modifying ALL GR-55 User Presets to enable the use of the Godin's Normal pickups and enable use of the three way "Guitar / Mix / Synth" switch on the Godin - and for me, thats where the magic of the GR-55 happens. Many factory GR-55 patches become 300% more useful.
For example, one GR-55 Xylophone patch had a great multitap delay that when used with only straight normal pickups becomes a wonderful world of great tone where the Roland COSM Amp modelling and effects can be appreciated.

I do think the only way to go with the GR-55 is to use an external stereo Volume pedal, and then dedicate the on board GR-55 Expression pedal to "pan / morph" different effects / tones within a single patch. I also find that the xTSA and RMC Piezos and GR-55's Acoustic Modeling sounds very excellent !

But I also notice that with little effort, palm Muting IS possible and get very close to the sound of the Normal pickups.  Finally having a working  "Guitar / Mix / Synth" switch on the Godin  allows instant verification and reality check on the COSM Guitar Modeling and for me opens up worlds of usefulness for the GR-55.