Hi guys :) This is my first post on this forum. My name is Damian Greda. I use KPA to compose my own music. Due to the fact that most of the time I spend at the desk using the KPA causes me a problem. Continuous reaching for knobs and buttons discouraged me from working with fx. When new delays appeared, I found that the number of these parameters simply requires an editor. And that's how it began. At the moment when I joined here the editor has the name Toast ME and I hope that it will serve you well to fast edit your rigs.
Thank you @Elantic to invite me here :)
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ToastME ver. 1.44
(compatible with 5.7 and newer firmware)
LINUX:
1) Download and install CTRLR: http://ctrlr.org/nightly/Ctrlr-x86_64-5.3.201.sh
2)Download and open with the CTRL : https://www.dropbox.com/s/0py68c29di2vtqr/ToastME_1_44.bpanelz?dl=1
WINDOWS: https://www.dropbox.com/s/18vvwnimeew1ejy/ToastME_1.44.rar?dl=1
MacOSX: https://www.dropbox.com/s/i62418w9cymb1wy/ToastME_1.44.dmg?dl=1
New features:
- Experimental version for Linux
- New parameters in Output Section(Aux ,Pure Cab, Monitor Cab off and Stereo)
- Additional right click preset menu for presets placed on the disk (in Documents\Toast_ME folder). Use Import button to unpack your presets from KPA backup .
- Slot names in performance mode have been added (and the possibility to change these names)
- Improved graphics for Parameter Eq
- Looper Fix
Fixes:
-Paremeter fixes for delays
-Graphics view of parameters for Metal DS
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Toast MIDI Editor (Toast ME) is an unofficial MIDI editor for Kemper Profiling Amplifier. Created with CTRLR(by Roman Kubiak) from ctrlr.org.
To use this EDITOR you will need MIDI interface.
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WARNING: Do not buy cheap noname USB<->MIDI interfaces !!!! They did not work (it is a lottery) with SYSEX messages and this editor use a lot of sysex messages. Logilink adapters are not working.
Interfaces that will work with sysex messages:
M-Audio Profire 2626
Yamaha UX 16 USB/MIDI interface
Roland Um-One
ESI Midimate EX
ESI Midimate II
AVID/M-Audio Fast Track Pro (latest drivers from AVID)
Motu 823 mk3
Miditech MIDIface 4x4
Focusrite Scarlett 6i6 2gen
RME FireFace UC
May not work with large sysex dumps:
M-Audio MIDISPORT UNO
M-Audio MIDISport 2X2 USB Bundle
M-Audio Uno
Interfaces that will not work:
LogiLink® Adapter USB to Midi In-Out
Proster 6Ft 2M USB to MIDI Interface Cable Adapter
http://www.logilink.com/media/images/produkt/_300/UA0037.png
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INSTALL NOTES:
1. For Windows download executable https://www.dropbox.com/s/8g1pe4zslrafs7i/ToastME_1_32.rar?dl=1 , unpack and run(win32 is for 32 bit version of Windows).
2. For MAC download dmg and open it.
EXPERIMENTAL MAC standalone vesrion(download dmg and run): https://www.dropbox.com/s/z79c8r85nkxm3bh/Toast%20ME_1_32.dmg?dl=1
TUTORIAL(BIG Thanks to Tijl Carrein for making these videos):
PART 1 :Connection & Setup
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wh1u0vLcCE0
PART 2 :Demo & Sound
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xj-zLfLxwtY
PART 3 :Lock States & Cab Management
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iC7e8QTPlaM
MANUAL: Connect KPA MIDI IN And OUT with your MIDI interface. Open a program or bpanelz with ctrlr (from ctrlr.org) and from MIDI menu select Input , Controller , Output Device (select your MIDI interface) . Then Click to Connect and select slot witch you want to edit. You can select "fx type" then or select fx type with browse knob on KPA.
If there is no knobs visible on Windows or MAC
run the program and hold CTRL+R on keyboard or delete folders c:\users\"yourusername"\AppData\Roaming\KPA_FX_EDITOR..
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ToastME ver. 1.44 :
LINUX:
1) Download and install CTRLR: http://ctrlr.org/nightly/Ctrlr-x86_64-5.3.201.sh
2)Download and open with the CTRL : https://www.dropbox.com/s/0py68c29di2vtqr/ToastME_1_44.bpanelz?dl=1
WINDOWS: https://www.dropbox.com/s/18vvwnimeew1ejy/ToastME_1.44.rar?dl=1
MacOSX: https://www.dropbox.com/s/i62418w9cymb1wy/ToastME_1.44.dmg?dl=1
ToastME ver. 1.40 :
WINDOWS : https://www.dropbox.com/s/cvl1i6ip4ux7pxy/ToastME_1_40.rar?dl=1
MacOSX : https://www.dropbox.com/s/177hioltesmu1w5/ToastME_1_40.dmg?dl=1
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UPDATED BETA 1_32 avaliable. : Added Input and Output parameters (now they are rosponding to KPA settings) , Fixed input buffer bug. Be aware that if you switch "Listen" button on Profiler tab to "AMP" this will mute KPA.
UPDATE: Added experimental MAC OSX image.
UPDATE 1_20 Fixed BUG with Fast Track Pro . Changed lock icons. New !CAB! and !AMP! inverse lock.
UPDATE 1_15: A lot of Bug fixes. Tap tempo fix. Added Rig Options and Lock sections. Lock state will be reset on start and on Connect to achieve synchronization.
UPDATE 1_11: Changed skin for more eye friendly. Added edit Rig Name .
UPDATE 1_9: Added Amp, Cab, and Eq
UPDATE 1_6: Fixed some modulators. User scales editor and robotalk feature(on wah stomps) added.
EDIT5 13.03.2018:Updated parameters display. Fixed Rotary Speed knob.
EDIT4 09.03.2018:Added live feedback for Reverb. Fixed Rate and Feedback knob.
EDIT3 08.03.2018:Reverb added. Fixed some bugs with connection. I have to find a way to display values like in KPA.
EDIT2 07.03.2018: Feedback from KPA now working (use "Click To Connect" button)
EDIT1 01.03: Fixed missing knobs images. If there is no knobs on windows 7 or 10 delete folder c:\users\"yourusername"\AppData\Roaming\KPA_FX_EDITOR
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And thank you for your fantastic Kemper TOAST ME Patch editing solution, many Kemper owners ( like myself) have been waiting for for years !!
Toast ME: Unoffical Kemper Editor
https://www.thegearpage.net/board/index.php?posts/26334367/
Quote from: Elantric on April 30, 2018, 02:38:10 PM
Welcome to VGuitarforums!
And thank you for your fantastic Kemper TOAST ME Patch editing solution, many Kemper owners ( like myself) have been waiting for for years !!
There is no "Thank you" button? :)
Its on our "Things to do list" ;)
we will get "LIKE" button here soon
https://www.thegearpage.net/board/index.php?posts/26343553/
Stevo57 wrote>
QuoteOk got a USB to midi cable overnight from Amazon. Everything is responding except the Profile name is stuck on the first profile in my favorites list. Tried the directional buttons next to the On button but nothings happening. Any clues? I have everything set to midi channel 1.
Quote from: admsustainiac on April 30, 2018, 04:43:57 PM
https://www.thegearpage.net/board/index.php?posts/26343553/
Stevo57 wrote>
Ok got a USB to midi cable overnight from Amazon. Everything is responding except the Profile name is stuck on the first profile in my favorites list. Tried the directional buttons next to the On button but nothings happening. Any clues? I have everything set to midi channel 1.
I believe you need a separate purchased USB to 5 pin MIDI I/O cable or known good MIDI interface ( often on your Audio Interface)
Kemper - Toast ME: Unoffical Kemper Editor Discussion
MANUAL: Connect KPA MIDI IN And OUT with your MIDI interface. Open a program or bpanelz with ctrlr (from ctrlr.org) and from MIDI menu select Input , Controller , Output Device (select your MIDI interface) . Then Click to Connect and select slot witch you want to edit. You can select "fx type" then or select fx type with browse knob on KPA.
WARNING: Do not buy cheap noname USB<->MIDI interfaces !!!! They did not work (it is a lottery) with SYSEX messages and this editor use a lot of sysex messages. Logilink adapters are not working.
Interfaces that will work with sysex messages:
M-Audio Uno
M-Audio Profire 2626
M-Audio MIDISPORT UNO
M-Audio MIDISport 2X2 USB Bundle
Yamaha UX 16 USB/MIDI interface
Roland Um-One
ESI Midimate EX
ESI Midimate II
AVID/M-Audio Fast Track Pro (latest drivers from AVID)
Motu 823 mk3
Miditech MIDIface 4x4
Focusrite Scarlett 6i6 2gen
RME FireFace UC
Quote from: admsustainiac on April 30, 2018, 04:43:57 PM
https://www.thegearpage.net/board/index.php?posts/26343553/
Stevo57 wrote>
Yes - i think this is a "that one" bad USB<->MIDI interface :
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I will write a short troubleshooting guide ( next post) so that you can see for yourself.
If this is the reason, please return this cable to the seller, as it does not meet the MIDI standard.
"Troubleshooting guide for USB<->MIDI cables and MIDI interfaces."
To diagnose the MIDI cable, it is best to create a Loopback connection.
The Loopback connection is a connection in which the MIDI output of the interface is connected to its MIDI input.
The problem is to connect two male DIN5 plugs together.
We can use the MIDI THRU KPA output for this purpose as it transfers everything from the MIDI input. So we need to connect MIDI OUT of interface to MIDI IN of the KPA and MIDI IN of the interface to MIDI THRU in the KPA.
Now we can use the any MIDI monitor like MIDI OX or MIDI monitor in ToastME to see if what we send is received correctly.
If the program is configured correctly, click on Menu Tools-> MIDI Monitor
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/6ot6dvwsi5yh4k8/TroubleMIDI_Menu.jpg?raw=1)
Make sure that the "Monitor input" and "Monitor output" options are selected in the View menu.
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/lhu6jrb57l9klgz/TroubleMIDI_View.jpg?raw=1)
Now in ToastME click "Connect". The transmitted message is displayed in the red part of the window. The received message is displayed in the green part.
Since we have connected the output to the input, the same messages should be displayed in both windows.
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/26ak1jtx02qoi23/TroubleLoopback_OK.jpg?raw=1)
For some cheap cables, only the first byte of the sysex message is received.
Such cable should be returned to the seller as it does not meet the MIDI standard.
(https://www.dropbox.com/s/p7poni227k4tm2z/Corrupted_Sysex.jpg?raw=1)
UPDATED 1_32 version:
WINDOWS EXECUTABLE:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/8g1pe4zslrafs7i/ToastME_1_32.rar?dl=1
MAC OSX IMAGE:
https://www.dropbox.com/s/z79c8r85nkxm3bh/Toast%20ME_1_32.dmg?dl=1
Added Input and Output parameters (now they are rosponding to KPA settings) , Fixed input buffer bug. Be aware that if you switch "Listen" button on Profiler tab to "AMP" this will mute KPA.
Quote from: DamianGreda on May 01, 2018, 04:53:51 AM
Yes - i think this is a "that one" bad USB<->MIDI interface :
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I will write a short troubleshooting guide ( next post) so that you can see for yourself.
If this is the reason, please return this cable to the seller, as it does not meet the MIDI standard.
FWIW - we also created a list of USB Class Compliant MIDI Cables (good / bad) here
https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=8393.0
Avoid this type USB MIDI Cable
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and its Blue varient
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No Optoisolator on this cheap USB MIDi interface above means no galvanic Ground isolation, so it will introduce Ground Loop Noise and / or High Frequency hash noise from your Computer's Switching Power supply into your audio.
It also suffers from sluggish MIDI data rise / fall times, and many MIDI DATA Errors . This USB MIDI Cable has been responsible for "bricking" $$$$ more music gear during MIDI SYSEX firmware updates over MIDI than any other device.
Dont let me catch you using this piece of %^$# - If see one in use anywhere, I inform the owner to recycle it promptly, and find a suitable replacement USB MIDI cable from the recommended types above.
Quote from: admsustainiac on May 01, 2018, 11:47:21 AM
Dont let me catch you using this piece of %^$# - If see one in use anywhere, I inform the owner to recycle it promptly, and find a suitable replacement USB MIDI cable from the recommended types above. [/i]
I think the only solution is to return those khmm ... cables to the seller and send them mail that those are not MIDI compliant cables. Maybe if they remove them from their shops this nightmare will end.
Quote from: DamianGreda on May 01, 2018, 01:40:28 PM
I think the only solution is to return those khmm ... cables to the seller and send them mail that those are not MIDI compliant cables. Maybe if they remove them from their shops this nightmare will end.
Also leave negative reviews with the major vendor of those junk USB MIDI cables with the #1 reseller in USA - Amazon
(https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/71aaPwssdXL._SL1400_.jpg)
https://www.amazon.com/HDE-Synthesizer-Microphone-Instrument-Converter/dp/B00D3QFHN8/ref=sr_1_7?ie=UTF8&qid=1525208259&sr=8-7&keywords=USB+MIDI
https://youtu.be/cLVCGEmkJs0
I just tested the Toast ME editor on my Kemper with a Roland UM One interface: works perfectly!
M-audio Midisport 1x1 dosn't work for large incoming sysex data :/ Another bad interface.
Just implemented tuner and other goodies :) Update soon.
That's very, very odd. I have been using a Midisport 1x1 for several years to program my Behringer FCB1010 pedal, which involves a rather large incoming package of data. I wonder if they changed the design at some point?
Hi Damian. You mention 'other goodies'. Any chance yo could figure out a way to use the Toast ME to access the looper functions with a non-Kemper remote?
Quote from: vtgearhead on May 19, 2018, 01:35:51 PM
That's very, very odd. I have been using a Midisport 1x1 for several years to program my Behringer FCB1010 pedal, which involves a rather large incoming package of data. I wonder if they changed the design at some point?
Midisport is legacy now. They don't produce it anymore but still selling them.
Did you tried Toast ME with midisport? It seems that incomming buffer of the chipset is overflowing and after some time there is no MIDI input data at all.
Quote from: scratch17 on May 19, 2018, 01:46:47 PM
Hi Damian. You mention 'other goodies'. Any chance yo could figure out a way to use the Toast ME to access the looper functions with a non-Kemper remote?
It is possible now with nrpn commands. How do i should implement this? It's stict pedalboard function not editor function. Some of the functions was blocked .
Quote from: DamianGreda on May 19, 2018, 02:52:26 PM
Midisport is legacy now. They don't produce it anymore but still selling them.
Did you tried Toast ME with midisport? It seems that incomming buffer of the chipset is overflowing and after some time there is no MIDI input data at all.
No, sorry, I do not own a Kemper. Just surprised at problems with Midisport - it's worked for anything and everything I've ever thrown it at. How large is the incoming packet of data that's causing you problems?
Cool thanks Damian, Paul
Quote from: vtgearhead on May 19, 2018, 03:56:05 PM
No, sorry, I do not own a Kemper. Just surprised at problems with Midisport - it's worked for anything and everything I've ever thrown it at. How large is the incoming packet of data that's causing you problems?
Yes - MIDI in stops reciving after some 250 byte sysex midi message. I've searched over the net and other people have similiar issues. I don't own one but have 3 or 5 users with exatly the same problem.
Quote from: DamianGreda on May 19, 2018, 04:26:00 PM
Yes - MIDI in stops reciving after some 250 byte sysex midi message. I've searched over the net and other people have similiar issues. I don't own one but have 3 or 5 users with exatly the same problem.
Oooof. Well, I will stop recommending it in the future. I must have lucked out with the FCB-1010.
Quote from: DamianGreda on May 19, 2018, 04:26:00 PM
Yes - MIDI in stops reciving after some 250 byte sysex midi message. I've searched over the net and other people have similiar issues. I don't own one but have 3 or 5 users with exatly the same problem.
The Midisport 1x1 does support large sysex midi messages. For sure waaay larger than 250 Bytes as long as you have installed the proper drivers. I do know it because I have dumped (IN and Out) up to 4000 bytes with no issues.
I wonder if you have either a defective unit or right drivers not installed.
In either case, I have found that using MIDIOX you can buffer midi messages to the right max-1 size of the different MIDI cheapo interfaces. Of course this is a workaround if you do not have anything better at hand and also depends on the interface to transmit incomplete MIDI streams of messages, not trying to buffer the whole message inside the interface. WIDI BUD I know tries to buffer the whole messages and has maximum buffer size of 256 Bytes. So no workaround possible on this type of interfaces.
Quote from: cags12 on May 20, 2018, 09:29:28 AM
The Midisport 1x1 does support large sysex midi messages. For sure waaay larger than 250 Bytes as long as you have installed the proper drivers. I do know it because I have dumped (IN and Out) up to 4000 bytes with no issues.
I wonder if you have either a defective unit or right drivers not installed.
In either case, I have found that using MIDIOX you can buffer midi messages to the right max-1 size of the different MIDI cheapo interfaces. Of course this is a workaround if you do not have anything better at hand and also depends on the interface to transmit incomplete MIDI streams of messages, not trying to buffer the whole message inside the interface. WIDI BUD I know tries to buffer the whole messages and has maximum buffer size of 256 Bytes. So no workaround possible on this type of interfaces.
The problem concerns the interface input, not the interface output, so MIDI ox will not help here. The interface loses the ability to receive data after a large sysex. It sends data all the time. I can not modify the KPA firmware to send MIDI fragments. What driver do you mention? I do not have this interface. Users using both Mac osx and windows came to me. I recommended the latest drivers but it did not help.
EDIT : I will try to modyfi code - juce has " handlePartialSysexMessage" function . Maybe this will help. Thank you!
EDIT 2 : this function is not implemented in ctrlr :(
Thanks, good to see you are here too. I still go to the Kemper sight, but not nearly as often. Too many fan boys and a little politics. This is a great place ,been here a long time. Lots of great and helpful friends here
Quote from: whippinpost91850 on May 20, 2018, 11:07:53 AM
Thanks, good to see you are here too. I still go to the Kemper sight, but not nearly as often. Too many fan boys and a little politics. This is a great place ,been here a long time. Lots of great and helpful friends here
Yep - seems to be interesting place . A lot of DIY topics which I really like :) I think I will be here for good. It's a pity I did not get here before :) And I prefer not to talk about KPA forum;) It's a thing of the past for me.
I recommend the Roland UM-One USB Midi device adapter, always reliable, and many see it as the "industry standard".
All Roland and Edirol Midi adapters I have tried have all been rock solid at shifting large/bulk amounts of midi/sysx data.
Quote from: gumtown on May 20, 2018, 01:59:34 PM
I recommend the Roland UM-One USB Midi device adapter, always reliable, and many see it as the "industry standard".
All Roland and Edirol Midi adapters I have tried have all been rock solid at shifting large/bulk amounts of midi/sysx data.
I heard that this interface is rock solid (like esi MIDImate ex) . Those two are the cheapest USB MIDI adapters worth their price. I have no possibility to check them all :( This is no commercial software R&D.
Consider it foregotten
Quote from: scratch17 on Yesterday at 02:46:47 PM
Hi Damian. You mention 'other goodies'. Any chance yo could figure out a way to use the Toast ME to access the looper functions with a non-Kemper remote?
Damian Replied:
QuoteIt is possible now with nrpn commands. How do i should implement this? It's strict pedalboard function not editor function. Some of the functions was blocked .
I know that the looper is meant to only be a Profiler Remote function. However, if you could use something like MIDIPipe (http://subtlesoft.square7.net/SubtleSoft/MidiPipe.html) maybe you could convert RNPN to MIDI so you could add the function to the Toast ME editor.
Once it is available in the editor, which responds to MIDI, I'd use my RJM Mastermind GT to send the correct commands to the editor which would be controlling the looper parameters and function.
Quote from: scratch17 on May 20, 2018, 04:57:25 PM
Quote from: scratch17 on Yesterday at 02:46:47 PM
Hi Damian. You mention 'other goodies'. Any chance yo could figure out a way to use the Toast ME to access the looper functions with a non-Kemper remote?
Damian Replied:
I know that the looper is meant to only be a Profiler Remote function. However, if you could use something like MIDIPipe (http://subtlesoft.square7.net/SubtleSoft/MidiPipe.html) maybe you could convert RNPN to MIDI so you could add the function to the Toast ME editor.
Once it is available in the editor, which responds to MIDI, I'd use my RJM Mastermind GT to send the correct commands to the editor which would be controlling the looper parameters and function.
FWIW , the Eureka PROM for FCB-1010 offers Kemper Looper support
http://www.eurekasound.com/eurekaprom/pa
This forum details the specific MIDI Commands
http://forum.microdesignum.cz/showthread.php?tid=9
Quote from: scratch17 on May 20, 2018, 04:57:25 PM
Once it is available in the editor, which responds to MIDI, I'd use my RJM Mastermind GT to send the correct commands to the editor which would be controlling the looper parameters and function.
I think that this pedalboard can easily handle the looper.
If you want state machine to translate simple CC commands to NRPN commands: (download attachment)
You have to install MIDI jazz plugin : https://jazz-soft.net/download/Jazz-Plugin/
Here is all the info you need how to run this:
https://www.kemper-amps.com/forum/index.php/Thread/18902-Looper-is-working-through-MIDI-KPA-Team-made-it-available-in-3-0-2-Public-Beta-U/
Some Tips for mastermind are here :
"Direct Send will make sure that CCs and PCs in action lists are sent in the order specified. "
http://www.rjmmusic.com/forum/index.php?threads/mastermind-gt-control-of-kemper-looper.2249/
Been trying this fairly cheap solution and it works. More portable than my audio interface so great with the laptop....
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B01J7N6EGO/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o02_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Working on new GUI and some other things ;)
(https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=23448.0;attach=17886;image)
(https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=23448.0;attach=17888;image)
Cool! It just keeps getting Better & Better
Exactly, great work!
Fantastic!
Toast ME ver. 1_37
This is experimental software. You use it at your own risk.
Please, create a backup copy of your KPA before running.
Do not post Rigs created using Toast ME on Rig Exchange. Thank you!
(https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=23448.0;attach=17911;image)
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Notes
Knobs move on mousewheel.
Ctrl + left click on knob for more accurate change.
For fast feedback from KPA use System->Page 15-> UI to MIDI option (softbutton 1).
If you want to save profiled amp you have to press STORE on KPA and check the TAGS. Don't worry about displayed page(1/3) on KPA.
Downloads
Windows: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ymnyhqh2364wjzq/ToastME_1_37.rar?dl=1
OSX: https://www.dropbox.com/s/ozwwl9on4sq55vg/ToastME_1_37.dmg?dl=1
Version History
v1.37: GUI change , Added:Git/Master Mono to SPDIF, SPDIF Clock, FX Preset Browsing, UI to MIDI implementation, Tuner, KPA modes( tuner , browse , performance , profiler)
v1.32: Name changed to Toast ME, New Logo, Added Input and Output parameters (now they are responding to KPA settings) , Fixed input buffer bug. Be aware that if you switch "Listen" button on Profiler tab to "AMP" this will mute KPA. Added experimental MAC OSX image.
v1.20: Fixed BUG with Fast Track Pro. Changed lock icons. New !CAB! and !AMP! inverse lock.
v1.15: A lot of Bug fixes. Tap tempo fix. Added Rig Options and Lock sections. Lock state will be reset on start and on Connect to achieve synchronization.
v1.11: Changed skin for increased visibility. Added edit Rig Name
v1.09: Added Amp, Cab, and Eq
v1.06: Fixed some modulators. User scales editor and robotalk feature(on wah stomps) added
v1.05: Updated parameters display. Fixed Rotary Speed knob.
v1.04: Added live feedback for Reverb. Fixed Rate and Feedback knob
v1.03: Reverb added. Fixed some bugs with connection. I have to find a way to display values like in KPA
v1.02: Feedback from KPA now working (use "Click To Connect" button)
v1.01: Fixed missing knobs images. If there is no knobs on windows 7 or 10 delete folder c:\users\"yourusername"\AppData\Roaming\KPA_FX_EDITOR
v1.00: KPA FX Editor sees the light of day!
Love it! Well done, Damian!
Another note about MIDI USB interfaces:
I just received my Roland cable and while on Windows everything works great on the Mac os x interface is practically useless. ??? I also ordered M-audio MIDISPORT UNO (some have problems with it) and it works great on both systems. :o ??? :-\ In this situation, I am unable to recommend a specific interface. If one does not work - return it and try it with another one.
UPDATE :After some vodoo roland Um One mk2 works now on MAC: https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=24&v=akP-IlX_Phk
UPDATE2: not working again - I started to hate mac's.
I have had a MIDI sport for several years with no issues
Quote from: DamianGreda on June 22, 2018, 02:22:01 AM
Another note about MIDI USB interfaces:
I just received my Roland cable and while on Windows everything works great on the Mac os x interface is practically useless. ??? I also ordered M-audio MIDISPORT UNO (some have problems with it) and it works great on both systems. :o ??? :-\ In this situation, I am unable to recommend a specific interface. If one does not work - return it and try it with another one.
UPDATE :After some vodoo roland Um One mk2 works now on MAC: https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=24&v=akP-IlX_Phk
UPDATE2: not working again - I started to hate mac's.
Let me guess
Are you using the very latest version of macOS (" too") High Sierra? 10.13?
Quote from: admin on June 22, 2018, 07:11:22 AM
Let me guess
Are you using the very latest version of macOS (" too") High Sierra? 10.13?
Yes 10.13 High Sierra. Do you have similiar issues?
Quote from: admin on June 22, 2018, 07:11:22 AM
Let me guess
Are you using the very latest version of macOS (" too") High Sierra? 10.13?
Roland Um-One is working with High Sierra now. It has a switch TAB and COMP. If you switch to TAB it will behave like Class Comilant Device and will use generic mac os drivers. It's working fine with this mode. My bad ...Sorry for the confusion. Still dont quite understand why Roland give their drivers for 10.13 while they do not working. This is from support knowledge base (not a word about this in the manual)
QuoteTAB: This mode allows the UM-ONE MK2 to use the USB MIDI Driver that is built into your computers operating system, and does not require that a Roland driver be installed. This is useful if you have an OS for which there are no Roland drivers available.
https://www.roland.com/us/support/knowledge_base/206872093/
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New springy version for 5.6.2.13481 Spring Reverb Preview FW. There are some scripts to clean old settings. Please run it before first run.
Windows : https://www.dropbox.com/s/jr8ecrpv3t0888n/ToastME_1_38.zip?dl=1
Mac OS X : https://www.dropbox.com/s/4g2dynvkdhi2l9g/ToastME_1_38.dmg?dl=1
Issues:
- Decay Time value inaccuracy
- you have to switch the FX slot from A to another after startup, otherwise changes are impossible
-zoom and window size is not saved
-Command + minus may not work on mac os x
Version History
v1.38:: Fixed unknown FX type's , Added Spring Reverb, Fixed Save FX Name label, Lock are fixed now(input lock will not be resseted), added some scripts to clear old settings
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A bit of a review of 1.38
https://youtu.be/-nR-9XAU3wI
Toast ME ver. 1.38.1
This version contains mostly bug fixes.
Please remember to make a backup before you use the software.
IMPORTANT! : After setting MIDI IN/OUT please quit and restart the editor.
WINDOWS : https://www.dropbox.com/s/ys1j640ire7bgep/ToastME_1_38_1.zip?dl=1
Mac OS X : https://www.dropbox.com/s/ng31l1vfi3k5orc/ToastME_1_38_1.dmg?dl=1
Added: Cab name in browser mode.
Fixed: Bug with FX LOOP mute and Pure Cab not working , bug with MIDI thru enabled on init , some minor fixes.
Thanks and keep up the great work, Damian!
Toast ME ver. 1.39 is out.
WINDOWS : https://www.dropbox.com/s/vsppalxgdir61ug/ToastME_1_39.zip?dl=1
MacOSX : https://www.dropbox.com/s/es343psozun2s8q/ToastME_1_39.dmg?dl=1
New features:
Right-Click Menu with preset handling for:
Individual Effects/Stomp presets
Amps
Cabs
Stomps Section Presets (for now not working... KPA bug?)
Stack Presets
Effects Section Presets
Users Scales Presets
Input and Output Presets
User Scales moved to top tabs
Midi Setup:
added midi button
added midi setup pane
Ctrl+K (Windows) or Command +K (MacOS) to bring up keyboard preference:
assign Keyboard shortcut to zoom in/out
zoom saved on exit
Bug Fixes:
Zoom setting is now saved
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Quote from: DamianGreda on June 22, 2018, 02:22:01 AM
Another note about MIDI USB interfaces:
I just received my Roland cable and while on Windows everything works great on the Mac os x interface is practically useless. ??? I also ordered M-audio MIDISPORT UNO (some have problems with it) and it works great on both systems. :o ??? :-\ In this situation, I am unable to recommend a specific interface. If one does not work - return it and try it with another one.
UPDATE :After some vodoo roland Um One mk2 works now on MAC: https://www.youtube.com/watch?time_continue=24&v=akP-IlX_Phk
UPDATE2: not working again - I started to hate mac's.
Hi Damien,
I finally got the chance to get a Kemper and try your editor with the M-Audio MIDISPORT 1x1. I am one of the unfortunate ones that the interface will not work correctly with Toast ME. After a while it stops receiving messages as reported by other users and yourself. Outbound messages keep working fine and can control the Kemper although blindly.
I stand my ground when I said a few posts before that the MIDISPORT can transmit and receive large sized Sysex messages. I use it with an Antares ATG system (big Sysex) as well as dumping IN and OUT large sized messages.
However, I did some troubleshooting with MIDI-OX and noticed that just before the interface stops receiving MIDI messages, the last "large" Sysex message was 231 Bytes, in fact most of the large Sysex messages are only 231 Bytes while in Stand-by (no changes). I can see the very large Sysex message are transmitted during initialization and that works flawlessly.
This makes me have a loose conclusion that might help to people with different types of MIDI interfaces.
I THINK the constant short timed querying of parameters causes the interface to fill up its internal memory in the long run before it can finish processing the queued messages. So the problem is not large messages (on the MIDISPORT) but in the amount of messages to process in a timely manner.
Solution?Could you add an option to the MIDI settings that defines a timer in which you query the Kemper for its status and parameters? I know that increasing the value would add delay to the application reflecting changes but I think it is an acceptable trade-off for some people (including myself).
Do I make sense?
Cheers,
Christian
Quote from: cags12 on October 21, 2018, 01:36:03 PM
Hi Damien,
I finally got the chance to get a Kemper and try your editor with the M-Audio MIDISPORT 1x1. I am one of the unfortunate ones that the interface will not work correctly with Toast ME. After a while it stops receiving messages as reported by other users and yourself. Outbound messages keep working fine and can control the Kemper although blindly.
I stand my ground when I said a few posts before that the MIDISPORT can transmit and receive large sized Sysex messages. I use it with an Antares ATG system (big Sysex) as well as dumping IN and OUT large sized messages.
However, I did some troubleshooting with MIDI-OX and noticed that just before the interface stops receiving MIDI messages, the last "large" Sysex message was 231 Bytes, in fact most of the large Sysex messages are only 231 Bytes while in Stand-by (no changes). I can see the very large Sysex message are transmitted during initialization and that works flawlessly.
This makes me have a loose conclusion that might help to people with different types of MIDI interfaces.
I THINK the constant short timed querying of parameters causes the interface to fill up its internal memory in the long run before it can finish processing the queued messages. So the problem is not large messages (on the MIDISPORT) but in the amount of messages to process in a timely manner.
Solution?
Could you add an option to the MIDI settings that defines a timer in which you query the Kemper for its status and parameters? I know that increasing the value would add delay to the application reflecting changes but I think it is an acceptable trade-off for some people (including myself).
Do I make sense?
Cheers,
Christian
Like we PM'd i will add a setting for user defined delay time between MIDI messages.
Toast ME 1.40 has been released.
Downloads:
Windows: https://www.dropbox.com/s/cvl1i6ip4ux7pxy/ToastME_1_40.rar?dl=1
MacOS / Mac OSX : https://www.dropbox.com/s/177hioltesmu1w5/ToastME_1_40.dmg?dl=1
New features:
Parametric equaliser graphics view for:
Studio Equaliser
Metal Equaliser
Looper TAB for:
KPA Looper control
Timer for recording with the looper(CNT REC)
Settings TAB for:
MIDI delay between outgoing messages
Downloading Rig List on Connect
Mouse wheel sensivity on knobs
Unpack Backup to Local Disk Preset Folder(%Documents Folder%\ToastME_Presets\)
Right-Click Menu for Selecting Rigs
Right-Click Menu saving to disk:
Individual Effects/Stomp presets
Stomps Section Presets
Individual Effects/Stomp presets
Effects Section Presets
Right-Click Menu loading from disk:
Individual Effects/Stomp presets
Amps
Cabs - User Cabs
Stomps Section Presets
Stack Presets
Effects Section Presets
Users Scales Presets
Input and Output Presets
Fixes:
Faster switching between FX's
Rate parameter fix
QuoteHow do you use the Looper?
Hit record, play guitar, hit record once again to end recording of the loop and start playing. You can use RecCnt to count measures and record number of measures. The basic functions are almost the same as in the remote.https://www.thegearpage.net/board/index.php?threads/toast-me-unoffical-kemper-editor.1936694/page-8
New TME 1.44 .
Whats new?
- Experimental version for Linux
- New parameters in Output Section(Aux ,Pure Cab, Monitor Cab off and Stereo)
- Additional right click preset menu for presets placed on the disk (in Documents\Toast_ME folder). Use Import button to unpack your presets from KPA backup .
- Slot names in performance mode have been added (and the possibility to change these names)
- Improved graphics for Parameter Eq
- Looper Fix
- Graphics view of parameters for Metal DS
LINUX:
1) Download and install CTRLR: http://ctrlr.org/nightly/Ctrlr-x86_64-5.3.201.sh
2)Download and open with the CTRL : https://www.dropbox.com/s/0py68c29di2vtqr/ToastME_1_44.bpanelz?dl=1
WINDOWS: https://www.dropbox.com/s/18vvwnimeew1ejy/ToastME_1.44.rar?dl=1
MacOSX: https://www.dropbox.com/s/i62418w9cymb1wy/ToastME_1.44.dmg?dl=1
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WOW that looks Great!
New ToastME ver. 1.46 for KAOS 6.0 firmware and fantastic two new reverbs: Formant and Ionosphere.
Whats new?
- support for KAOS 6.0 (Ionosphere and Formant Reverb)
- red colour for MetalDS graph view
- some minor fixes (knob names, some chorus parameters was fixed when saving preset to disk)
DOWNLOADS:
WINDOWS: https://www.dropbox.com/s/zbmh5lcutsm39cx/ToastME_1_46.rar?dl=1
MacOSX: https://www.dropbox.com/s/drjvauf56opiboj/ToastME_1_46.dmg?dl=1
LINUX:
1) Download and install CTRLR: http://ctrlr.org/nightly/Ctrlr-x86_64-5.3.201.sh
2)Download and open with the CTRL : https://www.dropbox.com/s/p4p5ftoimfucqgj/ToastME_1_46.bpanelz?dl=1
If you had a problem with an automatic RIG change during the start of the editor, just re-download the latest version. Error fixed.
WINDOWS: https://www.dropbox.com/s/zbmh5lcutsm39cx/ToastME_1_46.rar?dl=1
MacOSX: https://www.dropbox.com/s/drjvauf56opiboj/ToastME_1_46.dmg?dl=1
LINUX:
1) Download and install CTRLR: http://ctrlr.org/nightly/Ctrlr-x86_64-5.3.201.sh
2)Download and open with the CTRL : https://www.dropbox.com/s/p4p5ftoimfucqgj/ToastME_1_46.bpanelz?dl=1
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