PRIMOVA MIDX-20 Dual Roland USB MIDI Converter / Ctrl Interface

Started by CodeSmart, March 05, 2016, 05:20:19 PM

Previous topic - Next topic

0 Members and 1 Guest are viewing this topic.

Elantric

#500
Quote from: CodeSmart on October 19, 2017, 01:27:51 PM
Elantric can you please elaborate you chain.
1. What do you mean by OD, is that FX?


There are 12 available slots and these are the Katana bricks:
GEQ AMP NS FVOL EQ S/R BOST MOD DLY FX DLY2 RVB

I was just using this as a reference

rolandvg99 wrote>
Quote
1. EQ->VOL->FX->MOD->OD->NS->DLY->DLY2->REV->AMP->GLOBEQ->LOOP
2. EQ->VOL->FX->MOD->OD->NS->AMP->LOOP->DLY->DLY2->REV->GLOBEQ
3. EQ->VOL->MOD->OD->LOOP->AMP->NS->FX->DLY->DLY2->REV->GLOBEQ
4. EQ->MOD->FX->OD->DLY->AMP->NS->VOL->DLY2->REV->GLOBEQ->LOOP



Quote2. Where do you wish to put patch EQ?
probably right after the AMP




Frankly   - I still use FW Ver 1.02 and Gumtowns Katana FX Floorboard Editor - because it still works and offers the most flexibilty for me, with its unique ability to rearrange ALL available Katana FX IN ANY ORDER)

Loosing that ability is a major loss for me

and I'm probably the only Katana owner who wants option for placing the Reverb 1st in the signal chain :

Guitar > Reverb > Amp


QuoteWhy?

Only way to get this vintage 1963 "dripping" surf reverb tone  is replicate the 1963 signal chain Guitar > Reverb > Amp




Elantric

Quote from: gumtown on September 26, 2017, 06:36:22 PM
If you have BTS for GT-1 installed,
Have you looked in the addressmap.json file, on Windows is usually found here
C:\Program Files (x86)\BOSS TONE STUDIO for GT-1\_assets\data\

It has all the address secrets if you have a JSON format file viewer.


NOTEPAD++ App  OPENS THE Boss JSON files to reveal all
https://notepad-plus-plus.org/


Elantric

QuoteI have the option to downgrade the Katana but really don't know which way to go.

Luckily you can swap Katana FW in & out in a few minutes and just use the version you prefer

CodeSmart

This compiled chart with input from just 3-4 users really show how the FX chain may vary, and how important it is for Boss to release a fix for V2 with ability to store the current FX chain.
But I got more gear than I need...and I like it!

CodeSmart

Ahh...for a minute I thought that the Katana V2 really DID store the FX chain settings.
And it does it very well when setting it up and jumping between the CH,
but however only until you power off the Amp and then on again and their boot up routine destroys the chain.
But I got more gear than I need...and I like it!

rolandvg99

Quote from: CodeSmart on October 22, 2017, 03:39:10 AM
Ahh...for a minute I thought that the Katana V2 really DID store the FX chain settings.
And it does it very well when setting it up and jumping between the CH,
but however only until you power off the Amp and then on again and their boot up routine destroys the chain.


Unfortunately this supports my findings. An utter shame considering all the great new features of the V2 firmware.
To V or not to V: That is the question.

My little Soundcloud corner

vtgearhead

Quote from: CodeSmart on October 22, 2017, 03:39:10 AM
Ahh...for a minute I thought that the Katana V2 really DID store the FX chain settings.
And it does it very well when setting it up and jumping between the CH,
but however only until you power off the Amp and then on again and their boot up routine destroys the chain.

This opens the door to a potentially cool solution:  When your firmware detects that a Katana v2 has come active on the USB port, setup all channels with specific chains during initialization.  Then, no more need to configure on every patch select. 

CodeSmart

Quote from: snhirsch on October 22, 2017, 06:40:03 AM
This opens the door to a potentially cool solution:  When your firmware detects that a Katana v2 has come active on the USB port, setup all channels with specific chains during initialization.  Then, no more need to configure on every patch select.

I have other things to do. I follow the plan with the patch select fix for now and put my hope in a new future V2 Katana firmware version from Boss.
But I got more gear than I need...and I like it!

vtgearhead

No problem - just thinking out loud.  And, not complaining in the least!  Would be lost without MIDX-20.

CodeSmart

#509
MIDX-20 firmware V2.4 is now available on my webpage, now also supporting Katana V2 firmware. http://primovasound.com/midx_20_page2.html

The new Katana Bridge allow you to operate virtually all parameters of the Katana amp including Sneaky amps etc. as well as new V2 features like Delay2 (with separate Tap or combined Tap tempo), Patch and Global EQ, Line Out options etc.

The flaw within Katana V2.0 of not storing custom FX chains have been addressed by a set of virtual Patches with special FX chains.

MIDX-20 Release notes:
V2.4 2017-10-23
New: Compatible with KATANA V2 Firmware
New: Added CC translation from CC# to PC#















But I got more gear than I need...and I like it!

gumbo

Well done, Robert!!!
...it's almost enough to make me go out and buy a Katana !!   ;D

Cheers,
Peter
Read slower!!!   ....I'm typing as fast as I can...

vtgearhead

As always, Robert, you exceed all parameters!  Nice work.

CodeSmart

Thanks...now waiting for next Katana release. Meanwhile...complete the GT-1 Bridge, GKFX-22 a potent 13-pin switcher, build a MIDX-80 with plenty memory and Bluetooth or do what? Watch TV ???  ::)
But I got more gear than I need...and I like it!

CodeSmart

I took a look at the Raspberry. 500,000kb RAM @ 1000 MHz. Impressing stuff!
I've been working with 64kb ROM, 8kb RAM @ 16MHz. Instant boot, 10kHz idle task loop.
Some talk about MIDI SysEx drop outs and delays in the Raspberry...?
Engineers, tell me what is wrong?
But I got more gear than I need...and I like it!

admin

#514
Quote from: CodeSmart on October 24, 2017, 04:28:39 PM
I took a look at the Raspberry. 500,000kb RAM @ 1000 MHz. Impressing stuff!
I've been working with 64kb ROM, 8kb RAM @ 16MHz. Instant boot, 10kHz idle task loop.
Some talk about MIDI SysEx drop outs and delays in the Raspberry...?
Engineers, tell me what is wrong?
http://projects-raspberry.com/top-10-raspberry-pi-2-alternatives/
for real horsepower - look at the BeagleBone
https://www.ebay.com/itm/BeagleBone-Black-Rev-C-Single-Board-Embedded-Linux-Computer-ARM-Microcontroller/151470878157?hash=item23445e2dcd:g:vI8AAOSw~1FUYBB1


QuoteBeagleBone Black is a low-cost, community-supported development platform for developers and hobbyists. Boot Linux in under 10 seconds and get started on development in less than 5 minutes with just a single USB cable.

Processor: AM335x 1GHz ARM® Cortex-A8

512MB DDR3 RAM
4GB 8-bit eMMC on-board flash storage
3D graphics accelerator
NEON floating-point accelerator
2x PRU 32-bit microcontrollers
Connectivity

USB client for power & communications
USB host
Ethernet
HDMI
2x 46 pin headers
Software Compatibility

Debian
Android
Ubuntu
Cloud9 IDE on Node.js w/ BoneScript library
plus much more



https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?board=233.0
https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=19782.msg148993#msg148993
and contact ScataBrain who already has working BeagleBone running Katana MIDI Bridge
https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?action=profile;u=21326
https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?action=profile;area=showposts;u=21326

carlb

Foot controller that can coordinate 3 USB Midi devices, especially Roland/Boss.  :D
ES Les Paul, internal Roland GK
Boss SY-1000, Valeton Coral Amp pedal
Morningstar MC8 & MC6
QSC CP8 powered speaker

vtgearhead

I've had just enough USB issues on the RaspberryPi to make me leery of it.  Beaglebone is a more robust piece of computing gear, IMHO. 


rolandvg99

Quote from: CodeSmart on October 24, 2017, 04:01:56 PM
Thanks...now waiting for next Katana release. Meanwhile...complete the GT-1 Bridge, GKFX-22 a potent 13-pin switcher, build a MIDX-80 with plenty memory and Bluetooth or do what? Watch TV ??? ::)


Dare I say MIDX-80?
- Built in bluetooth
- Loads of space for macros/presets
- Possibility to store complete FxFloorboard patch info
- Roland and class compliant MIDI
- 2x2 Din 5 MIDI
- 2 or 3 on-board switches with plenty of i/o for external switches
- GA-FC controller translator/connector/bridge
- RJ45 Ethernet network for rtpMIDI.


:D
To V or not to V: That is the question.

My little Soundcloud corner

sixeight

Quote from: CodeSmart on October 24, 2017, 04:28:39 PM
I took a look at the Raspberry. 500,000kb RAM @ 1000 MHz. Impressing stuff!
I've been working with 64kb ROM, 8kb RAM @ 16MHz. Instant boot, 10kHz idle task loop.
Some talk about MIDI SysEx drop outs and delays in the Raspberry...?
Engineers, tell me what is wrong?

I have a stable configuration with a Raspberry Pi model b+. But most of the Linux stuff running in parallel only makes it more complicated. The delays must be caused by the other processes running in parallel.

It is also possible to run the pi barebone. But that looks quite complicated.


cags12

Quote from: rolandvg99 on October 25, 2017, 05:26:35 AM
Quote from: CodeSmart on October 24, 2017, 04:01:56 PM
build a MIDX-80 with plenty memory and Bluetooth or do what? Watch TV ???  ::)
Dare I say MIDX-80?
- Built in bluetooth

This! Bluetooth Central mode to pair with exiting MIDI Bluetooth peripherals.. Or even better dual mode with Peripheral role configurable so it can also pair with iOS, Android, PC and MAC.

The current solution of using the Widi-Bud is not great as it has a buffer limit of 256 Bytes. Meaning that most of the SysEx messages will get dropped out. For the rest, it works great.

CodeSmart

Posted by RolandVG99 on the Boss Katana Amps Facebook page:

A little demo of how I use the MIDX-20 to manipulate the Katana.

The BOSS EV-10 is modified with two added switches. Wah is turned on/off using a clever software toe on/off trick inside the MIDX-20. The left switch alternates between a Uni-Vibe and a WAH while the right turns pickup sim on/off. The channel used is the Katana Clean.

The EV-5 acts as a guitar volume controller with out the treble roll off.

Katana FX custom chain:
1. EQ (flat)
2. Foot Volume
3. Pickup sim (humbucker)
4. Wah/Uni-Vibe
5. OD (Tube screamer)
6. Noise Gate (Not in use)
7. Delay (set to a short slap)
8. Delay 2 (Not used)
9. Reverb (Spring)
10. Amp (Driven clean)
11. Global EQ (Hi-cut at 6.3 kHz)
12. Loop

The VoiceLive is mainly used for Guitar boost, Chorus and Vocal reverb/Delay at smaller gigs. It also serve as an In-ear hub - mixing vocal, FOH send and stage/crowd ambience.

Guitar used is a customised 93' Fender Strat Plus with Gold Lace sensors and no tone controls. Jescar stainless steel oversized jumbo frets and the Wilkinson roller nut is substituted by a ditto LSR. Ernie Ball Super Slinkys.


But I got more gear than I need...and I like it!

CodeSmart

Full MIDX GT-1 Bridge coded and compiling...now starts testing and correction phase :P
But I got more gear than I need...and I like it!

CodeSmart

GT-1  Bridge soon to be released. It's going really well.
There will be two possible firmware options.

A) MIDX core features plus Boss KatanaV2 MIDI Bridge and Boss GT-1 MIDI Bridge.

B) MIDX core features plus Fender MustangV2 MIDI Bridge.


But I got more gear than I need...and I like it!

CodeSmart

So far...found NO sneaky possibilities in the GT-1.
It looks like what you have in BTS...and the pedal...that's it!
But I got more gear than I need...and I like it!

Elantric

Any possibilities for expanding avaialable Control Assignments via MIDI CC# for remote MIDI control of GT FX ?