Midi control of individual string tuning coefficients?

Started by capacitor, November 14, 2022, 06:53:14 PM

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capacitor

Hey, all!  I'm getting an ATG-1 in the mail in a few days.  It's been upgraded to v3.32 and although I'm way late to the party, I'm still stoked :)

I've been looking through the v3.32 documentation to see what can be updated via midi, and wondered if it's possible to adjust individual per-string coefficients (cents of detune) via sysex?

Edit:  if need be, I think it should be possible to sniff the midi datastream from the editor to figure it out.
ATG-1/GK3, GP10/GK3, customized Strat-style with planned NU hex pups & sustainer

cags12

Quote from: capacitor on November 14, 2022, 06:53:14 PMHey, all!  I'm getting an ATG-1 in the mail in a few days.  It's been upgraded to v3.32 and although I'm way late to the party, I'm still stoked :)

I've been looking through the v3.32 documentation to see what can be updated via midi, and wondered if it's possible to adjust individual per-string coefficients (cents of detune) via sysex?

Edit:  if need be, I think it should be possible to sniff the midi datastream from the editor to figure it out.

If you mean changing the string coefficients live I would say it is not practically possible.
Your proposed method of sniffing the editor would only reveal the SysEx for storing the full patch only. Believe me I have tried to reverse engineer this system a lot.

You are better off having multiple patches with different coefficients and use MIDI PC messages to move across them. Unfortunately no documented CC messages exist for the coefficients.

capacitor

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Yes, that's exactly where I was going, haha!  Thank you.  I might fuzz the CCs to see if anything valuable shows up, unless you or somebody else has already been down that road :)

I think I read somewhere on the internet that Antares had a sysex implementation document, but they (at least at the time) thought it was too complex for us, so it wasn't released.
ATG-1/GK3, GP10/GK3, customized Strat-style with planned NU hex pups & sustainer

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most controls were in the iPad MIDI DESIGNER ATG Editor
https://mididesigner.com/antares-auto-tune-layout-refresh-at-200/

Sadly this template is near impossible to obtain - it was built into older versions of MIDI Designer at Apple App/iTunes Store - but has been removed  from MIDI Designer since 2019


there remains an iPhone version here
https://mididesigner.com/qa/6259/layout-antares-atg-template-for-iphone

if you have an IOS device it may be possible to review the MDI Template for the target ATG MIDI controls


I recall only a Global detune


The ATG-1 Manual is here
https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=13067.0


cags12

The MIDI designer template is still available as a built in layout in the iPad. I have just recently used it. As a matter of fact I have added the extra controls of individual string gains that were not originally available. Also some other usability changes.

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cags12

A couple of changes I have made to expand.





admin

Quote from: cags12 on November 16, 2022, 08:11:03 AMThe MIDI designer template is still available as a built in layout in the iPad. I have just recently used it. As a matter of fact I have added the extra controls of individual string gains that were not originally available. Also some other usability changes.

Attaching the original one. file extension changed to allow the upload.

Thanks - on latest MD version I could never locate the ATG template