The sound of XTC - Dave Gregory's vintage guitars

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Elantric

 Back in 1980 i was working on Steve Bartek's guitars (Strawberry Alarm Clock, Oingo Boingo, currently Danny Eflman's orchestrator
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Steve_Bartek
Oingo Boingo toured with XTC and The Police on a few world tours in the late '70's  / early 80's -       

and we had common ground in our mutual admiration for British guitarist Dave Gregory's guitar playing with XTC on "Drums & Wires", "Black Sea" "English Settlement" 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/XTC


I remember in 1981 when Synth bands (Thomas Dolby, Howard Jones, etc) were all the rage, and friends were trading vintage 50's Les Pauls for Roland Juno-6 Keyboards because the guitar world was essentially dead in the eyes of radio, Dave Gregory was telling everyone he knew to buy vintage guitars instead

Turns out he was right!







https://youtu.be/qH3IByibTpM?list=RDIBD8NoFYkjE





mchad


Great stuff Elantric. Thanks for posting. What a magnificent band. I bought Skylarking 30 years ago and was floored...(The Man Who Sailed Around His Soul is an all time fave). Black Sea is a classic too.

Brilliant guitar playing. In fact all of them are incredible musicians. Terry Chambers is one of the world's great drummers.

Can't wait for Andy Partridge's new book coming out soon.
https://www.burningshed.com/store/ape/product/406/7076/

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Mauri60

Agree ! fantastic musicians and unique distinctive sound.
It was a big bump, when Partridge has a nervous breakdown caused by stage fright . The band manages to keep going , but , because of the phobia leader decides not to go on tour . Prob caused by that, Drummer Chambers leaves the group shortly after , replaced in later albums by session-men's .  :'(
Nothing is impossible,if someone else will do for you.

Elantric

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QuoteIt was a big bump, when Partridge has a nervous breakdown caused by stage fright . The band manages to keep going , but , because of the phobia leader decides not to go on tour .

Andy Partridge explains here
https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=17555.0

Similar events have occurred.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thompson_Twins

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Wilson

Elantric

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Dave Gregory's Guitargonauts web site is back on line  - and he's performing with a band called "Big Big Train.
(Check out his guitar collection)
http://www.guitargonauts.info/



1953 Gibson Les Paul
XTC's journey to the U.S. in the spring of 1986 to work with Todd Rundgren has been well-documented elsewhere, though what made it particularly memorable for me was my acquisition of an original 1950's Les Paul guitar – something I'd dreamt of owning since I was a kid.

When Gibson launched the Les Paul in 1952, it was the only solid-bodied non-steel guitar they produced, though variations on the basic theme would appear throughout the fifties.

Constructed from a single slab of mahogany 2" thick, capped with 2 or 3 pieces of ½" maple carved to resemble an arch-top and sprayed gold, it was a serious looker that produced a big, warm tone – quite unlike the twangy new Fenders that were beginning to proliferate the guitar market.

The one innovation that didn't work on its introduction was a huge trapeze-style bridge/tail-piece, in which the strings were fed underneath the bridge-bar, making string-damping with the right palm very awkward. After less than a year in production, a simple solution to the problem was found by mounting the bridge on two steel studs sunk into the top of the guitar, and wrapping the strings over the bar, which could be adjusted for string length by two grub-screws at the rear. Mine is one of the very first with this arrangement – my favourite, just like Nigel Tuffnel's! – though by 1955 it would be modified again to include a bridge separate from the tail-piece, the ABR-1 Tune-O-Matic.

Having spent my career experimenting with a variety of guitars, pick-ups, amps and pedals in a quest for The Perfect Tone, the arrival of this guitar proved once and for all that the solution lies in the timber. These guitars were constructed from woods from the Garden Of Eden, I swear, and crafted by God's little helpers at the Kalamazoo plant. While Gibson currently produce an impressive range of Les Paul re-issues, none can boast what the fifties literature proclaimed the "Les Paul tones". More's the pity...

An apocryphal account of my eating habits during the "Skylarking" sessions (that appeared in Farmer's Song Stories) claims that I was feasting on haute cuisine most evenings, whilst my band-mates made do with bung-hole cardboard pizzas. Not true! I was eating very cheaply indeed, in order to save as much per diem as possible to buy another guitar.

Making records was the only way we got any money at all from the record company at that time. I'd drive to the supermarket in Woodstock, load up with the cheapest cuts of meat, mince, frozen chicken and a bare minimum of fresh vegetables, and made it last. The cash I'd saved was stashed away, and by the time of our last two days in San Francisco I'd managed to scrape together nine hundred of your American dollars.

In the mid-80's, the big money was going on pre-CBS Fenders – Les Pauls were pretty unfashionable, and there were plenty about. I found two elderly gold-tops hanging on the wall in a large music store, thick with dust, neglected and scruffy. One was a '52 with the big trapeze, sprayed gold front and back; the other, this one, lacquer hacked off the back by years of belt-and-buckle abuse, cuts and bruises everywhere, original frets worn down to less than a millimetre and a fingerboard so badly pitted you could have planted spuds in it. The machine heads had been changed, and the original bridge studs had been replaced by some crappy seventies chrome-plated ones that were the wrong size and consequently useless for holding the bridge correctly, which sat at an absurd angle with the strings sitting ¼" off the fret-board. I plugged it in, and the sound that came out of it was unreal. After a lot of begging and pleading with the staff (God bless 'em!), my 900 in cash finally got the better of them and I left the store with the prize of my life.

Back again in Woodstock, I scoured Todd's workshop for a means of fixing the bridge problem, eventually finding a steel washer which I proceeded to saw in half, using the two pieces to shim the gap between the shoulder of the bridge and the top of the stud. They're still in place to this day. Once back in England, a visit to Jonny Kinkade put his genius to work "shooting" and re-fretting the finger-board with some meaty, jumbo frets and a brass nut. (I thought it might match the gold better...doh!) I later had the bridge re-plated, and have replaced the tuners with new single-ring Klusons. All the electrics are 100% original; in 48 years, not so much as a control pot has been changed, and they still operate perfectly, and silently. I'm proud to say that I brought this guitar back from the dead, and it's repaid me tenfold over the years.

A truly fabulous guitar.

Recording debut: XTC: Dear God (May 1986)
Features on: Extrovert (solo); The Man Who Sailed Around His Soul (XTC, Skylarking, 1986); Little Lighthouse; You're My Drug (Dukes Of Stratosphear, Psonic Psunspot 1987); Garden Of Earthly Delights; The Loving (solo); Merely A Man (wah-wah); Across This Antheap (A.P.) (XTC, Oranges & Lemons, 1988); Let Me Change Your Mind Tonight (solo) (Johnny Hates Jazz, 1990); The Ugly Underneath (E-bow); Books Are Burning (end solos) (XTC, Nonsuch, 1991); Queen Phyllis Of Colchester (Martin Newell, The Off-White Album, 1994) Inside The Dream (solo) (Becki diGregorio, Seven Worthies..., 1986); etc.

aliensporebomb

You should get the Tin Spirits record "Wired to Earth".  The opening track "Glimmer" is flabbergastingly nice example of guitar orchestration from Mr. Gregory and Co and the rest of the tracks are great too.  There's another record by them called "Scorch" from 2014 and the track "Carnivore" sounds a little bit like if King Crimson's "Red" added a 12-string player.

Yeah, Dave's a great player and musician with a cool guitar collection.
My music projects online at http://www.aliensporebomb.com/

GK Devices:  Roland VG-99, Boss GP-10, Boss SY-1000.

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Elantric


arkieboy

Big Big Train are awesome and well worth a listen.


Here's Dave in action at a gig in 2015


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mooncaine

I'm gonna enjoy viewing this after my Sunday chores are done!

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XTC did 2 US tours with Oingo Boingo

Guitarist Steve Bartek was a deep admirer of Dave Gregory's guitar style and its reflect here   



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Original XTC drummer Terry Chambers is touring an XTC cover band

EXTC

aliensporebomb

Quote from: Elantric on March 08, 2016, 10:34:59 AM
Andy Partridge explains here
https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=17555.0

Similar events have occurred.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thompson_Twins

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Brian_Wilson

Or in the case of Steely Dan the entire band wouldn't tour for MANY years - not until they reformed around the two of nature tour did they tour regularly.
My music projects online at http://www.aliensporebomb.com/

GK Devices:  Roland VG-99, Boss GP-10, Boss SY-1000.