GM-800 - Tips and Tricks to obtain best tracking

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Elantric

Quote from: mikejames on August 23, 2023, 05:08:28 PMHi all,

I'm really loving this new Boss GM-800, but I'm getting a lot of hanging notes. It seems like the standard MIDI ON with no matching MIDI OFF situation, but sometimes it's more than just one one note. I'll get a sequence of moving notes that (maybe?) I played just moments earlier.

I'm hoping that this is just an incorrect setup and not something that we're supposed to live with! I've updated to the v1.03 firmware.

Any ideas?

Thanks mucho,

Mike

that happens to me  - must adjust the functional GM-800 Low Velocity CUT
to minimize hanging notes


Many here instantly disregard the Low Velocity Cut control as armchair quarterbacks , but zero hands on GM-800 experience because of poor results on prior Roland/ Boss GK Processors

Go to 7:45 minutes for more on LOW VELOCITY CUT , DYNAMICS, PLAY FEEL   controls in the SCENE EDIT, MASTER SECTION , which are unique per each " SCENE " and users preference ON GM-800 to tame false triggers for both internal sounds and MIDI Transmission to other MIDI Synths

adamqlw

Quote from: Elantric on August 05, 2023, 03:33:10 PMGo to 7:45 minutes for more on LOW VELOCITY CUT , DYNAMICS, PLAY FEEL   controls , which are unique per each " SCENE " and users preference ON GM-800 to tame false triggers


I was looking for this and mistakenly thought it was in the Guitar to MIDI section in the editor

It is in fact in the Master section, and is scene specific.

Thanks for the tip!

Elantric

Quote from: adamqlw on August 12, 2023, 10:14:48 PMI was looking for this and mistakenly thought it was in the Guitar to MIDI section in the editor

It is in fact in the Master section, and is scene specific.

Thanks for the tip!

Its mandatory to prevent ghost notes and spurrious random note generation - and unlike SY-1000, these LOW VELOCITY CUT , DYNAMICS, PLAY FEEL controls on GM-800 actually work

Best_Peasant

Quote from: Elantric on August 13, 2023, 02:05:31 AMIts mandatory to prevent ghost notes and spurrious random note generation - and unlike SY-1000, these LOW VELOCITY CUT , DYNAMICS, PLAY FEEL controls on GM-800 actually work

Cant wait to get home tonight to use this tip!

mikejames

Guys and Gals,

I'm finding that the Low Velocity Cut adjustments didn't fix my problems. They just made me more frustrated. However, I did find something that worked. Go to the string sensitivity screen on the device: MENU > GK SETTINGS > 2nd page. You can adjust the sensitivity of each string. I'm assuming the values differ based on the pickups' distance to the string, the strength of your picking, the phase of the moon, etc. My pickup is in the 1-3mm distance range and I'm getting values ranging from 21 on high E to 60 on low E. Make sure that you save your work!


I dug into the strings and adjusted the setting until I got the graphic bar to the ~75% range and it seems to be holding. While I was in there, I made three GK5 setups, with different average values. If this works, I can use the lower settings for more delicate picking.

This seems to be working so far. I guess I'll keep it a while longer.... :)
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Elantric

There are many setting which impact GM-800 tracking for best results with your playing technique

If using a GK-3 into a GKC-AD convertor, the GM-800 has a GAIN adjust for the GKC-AD, lowering that may improve tracking.

The String Sensitivity  defaults to "65" for all strings - I prefer 35, for my technique, and then DYNAMICS, PLAY FEEL, LOW VELOCITY CUT
control minimizes notes that continue to sustain inadvertently.

Follow the Alex Hutchinson videos above

Nobulusprime

Quote from: Elantric on November 19, 2023, 12:47:47 PMThere are many setting which impact GM-800 tracking for best results with your playing technique

If using a GK-3 into a GKC-AD convertor, the GM-800 has a GAIN adjust for the GKC-AD, lowering that may improve tracking.

The String Sensitivity  defaults to "65" for all strings - I prefer 35, for my technique, and then DYNAMICS, PLAY FEEL, LOW VELOCITY CUT
control minimizes notes that continue to sustain inadvertently.

Follow the Alex Hutchinson videos above

Reducing the string sensitivities made the most difference to the tracking for me. I went from having stuck notes to getting things pretty clean. I haven't really played with the low velocity cuts as of yet but I will do as I try to perfect things. I have noticed that different guitars yield very different responses (not all good) So I'll definitely have to work up a very tweaked set up for each guitar.

guitfiddleblue

I'm running a Godin xtsa into a GKC-AD. The Godin has LR Baggs piezo's. Any tips on tracking with piezo's on the GM-800? The higher notes/strings do great, but the lower notes/strings don't do very well at all. I'm playing around with the various adjustments. Just wanted to see others' thoughts.

giffenf

Quote from: Elantric on November 19, 2023, 12:47:47 PMIf using a GK-3 into a GKC-AD convertor, the GM-800 has a GAIN adjust for the GKC-AD, lowering that may improve tracking.


Thank you!  Changing the Gain setting worked the best for me on my GK-3 guitars.  On 3, I was getting ghost and hanging notes all over the place.  I dropped it to 2 and problem went away.  Hoping to set up my RMC, Baggs, and Graph-Tech guitars soon.