SY-1000 - Austin Sandick 2020 NAMM Patches

Started by sve3, March 12, 2020, 12:44:30 PM

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sve3

I emailed Austin Sandick - Product Sales Specialist with BOSS who was performing the demos of the SY-1000 at NAMM and asked him for the patches he used. I am sure he does not mind me sharing them as he said he had no plans on putting them on Boss Tone Central and gladly sent them to me. I have attached them and linked the demo on YouTube.
https://youtu.be/wIrqkIwygVg

JiveTurkey

YES!!!! I have wanted the Tom Sawyer guitar preset since I heard it. Why in the world would they not put these up on Tone Central since there was 137 demos, all of these songs? I get it the Ghostbusters jokes might have got old  ;D But there are some cool sounds in here nonetheless. Thanks for reaching out and sharing!

BROCKSTAR

YES! I CAN NOW SOUND CHEESY WITH GHOST BUSTERS! THIS IS WHAT I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR SINCE I GOT THE SY-1000 OVER A MONTH AGO!! THANKS!!

All joking aside, thanks :P lol.

JiveTurkey

Quote from: BROCKSTAR on March 12, 2020, 01:01:54 PM
YES! I CAN NOW SOUND CHEESY WITH GHOST BUSTERS! THIS IS WHAT I'VE BEEN WAITING FOR SINCE I GOT THE SY-1000 OVER A MONTH AGO!! THANKS!!

All joking aside, thanks :P lol.
D@MM!T Brock  >:( ;D ;D ;D

JiveTurkey

Also; just realized the sound I think I have been jonesing for in this vid was produced by the Boss looper that was connected to the SY and not the SY itself  :-X :'(

aliensporebomb

#5
Say what you want, I wanted his Tom Sawyer patch so I'm glad I can get it if I can.   The SY-1000 will be in my near future, hopefully.

I tried bringing these up in the tone studio app - which one is the Tom Sawyer tone?
My music projects online at http://www.aliensporebomb.com/

GK Devices:  Roland VG-99, Boss GP-10, Boss SY-1000.

admin

Quote from: aliensporebomb on March 12, 2020, 07:19:37 PM
Say what you want, I wanted his Tom Sawyer patch so I'm glad I can get it if I can.   The SY-1000 will be in my near future, hopefully.

I tried bringing these up in the tone studio app - which one is the Tom Sawyer tone?

Sadly on the new Boss Tone Studio app  - Without actual SY-1000 hardware connection - its not possible to Open & review any SY-1000 *.TSL Patches 

OldGuitarDude

Fantastic demo! MANY THANKS to Austin for these patches, and to sve3 for sharing them.

JiveTurkey

Quote from: aliensporebomb on March 12, 2020, 07:19:37 PM
Say what you want, I wanted his Tom Sawyer patch so I'm glad I can get it if I can.   The SY-1000 will be in my near future, hopefully.

I tried bringing these up in the tone studio app - which one is the Tom Sawyer tone?
There are two Som Tawyer (iirc) presets. The thing I am hoping is baked in is the synthwash during what I would call the bridge or pre-chorus section. I didn't have a chance to work with them last night but will get a minute with them sometime over the weekend for surer.

admin

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Quote from: JiveTurkey on March 13, 2020, 08:23:28 AM
There are two Som Tawyer (iirc) presets. The thing I am hoping is baked in is the synthwash during what I would call the bridge or pre-chorus section. I didn't have a chance to work with them last night but will get a minute with them sometime over the weekend for surer.

Review The NAMM Show demos.
If his fingers are not moving and he never played the part you hear - the audio is backing tracks coming from his floor Boss RC-10R Rhythm Looper pedal

He had SY-1000 Main OUT Feeding Stereo Inputs on a new Boss RC-10R Rhythm Loop Station
and it was loaded with his backing tracks and drums  -



Boss RC-10R  Stereo Outputs and his Vocal mic were feeding a Mackie ProFX 12 V2 Mixer



which was feeding a pair of QSC K12.2 Powered Speakers on Stands




arkieboy

Unpopular opinion:  I thought the demo was actually quite good.


The flip side of doing a whole bunch of 'cheesy' tunes is you actually had solid waypoints about what the SY could actually do.  Plus you have the context of where the sound fits inside songs which I personally find invaluable, especially when the intended playing style is not 'noodle some lead guitar'.


And as it happens, playing these sounds its clear a few of them are actually quite good!  Thriller intro is a decent pad; Its also a pretty useful stab (ehem) at the OBX Jump sound; I'll have a good old dig into GAGA Oo LA LA to see what makes it tick and the Tom Sawyer Lead, while not a heck of a lot like the record, is actually a pretty good lead sound.


There are many worse sounds in the factory presets which I've replaced for these. 


Austin, you did well mate!  Keep up the good work!
Main rig: Barden Hexacaster and Brian Moore i2.13 controllers
Boss SY1000/Boss GKC-AD/Boss GM-800/Laney LFR112

Other relevant gear: Line 6 Helix LT, Roland GR-33, Axon AX100 MkII
Oberheim Matrix 6R, Supernova IIR, EMu E5000, Apple Mainstage, Apple Logic, MOTU M4

Hott Bottles

These patches are amazing! Some of the best guitar combos I've hear as well. Thank you!

aliensporebomb

#12
What I'd like to find out is how he stepped through patch after patch so quickly - the segues were perfect for that demo even though some here gave him some flack for it.  For a live performance tool that was great.
What I guess is he's just pressing patch up on the VG pickup to go to the neck patch in his patch set. 
My music projects online at http://www.aliensporebomb.com/

GK Devices:  Roland VG-99, Boss GP-10, Boss SY-1000.

Stappie

I have a Axe Fx II with the preset Tom Sawyer, is realer.

stub

Welcome, Stappie.

I have a Fractal FM3 which-- as a dedicated amp/cab/FX modeler does many things better than the SY-1000. There are more and better amp sims, more and better cab sims, user IRs, and best-in-class reverbs. It has deeper editing, etc. It's possible the SY-1000 preset could have been improved with more patient editing. We've seen over and over again that the SY-1000 seems able to chameleon itself to MANY different types of tones.

As for comparisons with Fractal, the SY-1000 sits in a completely different league and category. It's fascinating that the strengths of the SY-1000 differ amongst users. For me, what makes it especially magical isn't the synths (though the synths do prove to be quite useful)-- it is the models of electric and acoustic instruments. The amps, models, FX, EQ, etc. are of excellent quality and are very tweakable, but I suppose there are specific things it won't do, or where you have to do something unexpected to get the result you want. For example, to get a great "Brand X" amp sound, you have to use a model of "Brand Y" or pop in a different cab sim. Sometimes aggressive adjustment of amp's tone controls and/or EQ are needed.

Elantric

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Quote from: stub on February 22, 2024, 08:17:34 AMWelcome, Stappie.

I have a Fractal FM3 which-- as a dedicated amp/cab/FX modeler does many things better than the SY-1000. There are more and better amp sims, more and better cab sims, user IRs, and best-in-class reverbs. It has deeper editing, etc. It's possible the SY-1000 preset could have been improved with more patient editing. We've seen over and over again that the SY-1000 seems able to chameleon itself to MANY different types of tones.

As for comparisons with Fractal, the SY-1000 sits in a completely different league and category. It's fascinating that the strengths of the SY-1000 differ amongst users. For me, what makes it especially magical isn't the synths (though the synths do prove to be quite useful)-- it is the models of electric and acoustic instruments. The amps, models, FX, EQ, etc. are of excellent quality and are very tweakable, but I suppose there are specific things it won't do, or where you have to do something unexpected to get the result you want. For example, to get a great "Brand X" amp sound, you have to use a model of "Brand Y" or pop in a different cab sim. Sometimes aggressive adjustment of amp's tone controls and/or EQ are needed.

Agreed,
I dont use the SY-1000 for synthesizers. Which the OSC Synth is its glarring weakness .

In fact I would argue if you disregard the names of the modelling ,  only used your ears and employed the parallel processing tricks advanced VG-99 users discovered to craft tones, thats where the Strengths of the SY-1000 as a guitar modeling system  are revealed.

Folks get too hung up on " what exact vintage tube amp is Amp X modeling ?" , when same energy should be spent on using their ears and application of EQ to find the tones for their needs. 





stub

Exactly. I sometimes imagine all the gear that people would NOT have sold if they could be bothered to (learn to) use an EQ.