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Title: Roland VG-99 PDS stand alternative
Post by: Charles Beatty on May 08, 2008, 10:35:20 AM
Does the VG-99 need to be bolted to the $150.00 Roland unit?  This doesn't seem practical for gig use.

What do other people use?

Will a simple snare stand work?
Title: Re: Roland VG-99 PDS stand alternative
Post by: Elantric on May 08, 2008, 11:17:26 AM
The plate mounts to the bottom of the VG-99 with 4 screws.

One thumb screw removes the plate from the Stand. I always use the PDS-10 stand
Title: Re: Roland VG-99 PDS stand alternative
Post by: Charles Beatty on May 08, 2008, 02:19:49 PM
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QuoteThe plate mounts to the bottom of the VG-99 with 4 screws.

One thumb screw removes the plate from the Stand. I always use the PDS-10 stand
That doesn't sound too bad.
Title: Re: Roland VG-99 PDS stand alternative
Post by: Meltdown on May 08, 2008, 03:01:11 PM
PDS-10 stand all the way for me.
Fast setup.
No bending over to tweak something like with a rack or floor unit ( i hate that ).
Title: Re: Roland VG-99 PDS stand alternative
Post by: s0c9 on May 08, 2008, 08:02:40 PM
I bought the APC-33 [universal mount, $35+] which happens to fit the VG99, bolted it to the VG99, then mounted it on an existing cymbal stand I had. Looks just like the expensive Roland version..
Saved $70+ 
Title: Re: Roland VG-99 PDS stand alternative
Post by: rcknrllmn on May 08, 2008, 08:38:56 PM
I use the - Roland APC-33 Drum Pad Clamp.
It's the same profile to fit the VG-99 as the Roland drum samplers.
You can mount it on any stand, mic stand, cymbal stand, & etc.
I use an old acoustic guitar stand that I do not need anymore due to the VG-99 acoustic sims.
Costs 50 bucks instead of 150 & you can mount it on any stand you already own.
Title: Re: Roland VG-99 PDS stand alternative
Post by: Elantric on May 08, 2008, 10:30:05 PM
We have a write up and pic of the APC-33 here

https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=89.msg798#msg798 (https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=89.msg798#msg798)


The APC-33 clamp is basically identical to the the top portion of the PDS-10.- interesting.

edit -

no its a bit different - good to know this works:

http://www.samedaymusic.com/product--ROLAPC33 (http://www.samedaymusic.com/product--ROLAPC33)
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Title: Re: Roland VG-99 PDS stand alternative
Post by: jvguitar on July 02, 2008, 11:02:29 AM
Quote from: s0c9 on May 08, 2008, 08:02:40 PM
I bought the APC-33 [universal mount, $35+] which happens to fit the VG99, bolted it to the VG99, then mounted it on an existing cymbal stand I had. Looks just like the expensive Roland version..
Saved $70+ 

Just a quick question, I ordered online the APC-33, but it came without bolts. What kind of bolts should I buy? Thanks.

JV
Title: Re: Roland VG-99 PDS stand alternative
Post by: Elantric on July 02, 2008, 03:47:08 PM
FWIW - New VG-99's  come with 4 black screws for this mounting bracket - Look in the VG-99 box
Title: Re: Roland VG-99 PDS stand alternative
Post by: jvguitar on July 02, 2008, 05:55:07 PM
Indeed, they were still in the box. I completely forgot about those screws. Thank you for your help.

JV
Title: Re: Roland VG-99 PDS stand alternative
Post by: prongs_386 on July 05, 2008, 12:10:49 AM
I just thought I'd let other know what I've done for my mounting..
I bought a $40 music stand, which is quite sturdy. Then I drilled holes in it got the thumb bolt things it came with and put them through into a nut.
Now I leave the thumb bolts always attached to the stand and to mount I just chuck the vg99 over the bolts and screw in.

Works perfectly and only cost me $40 as opposed to $130+ it would have cost me for the normal stand.
Title: Re: Roland VG-99 PDS stand alternative
Post by: Elantric on July 05, 2008, 07:46:33 AM
$119 B stock - (back ordered)


http://www.interstatemusic.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductDisplay?catalogId=10001&storeId=10051&langId=-1&productId=900198046


But I think Jon Haber at Alto Music can beat that price.

http://www.altomusic.com/

Title: Re: Roland VG-99 PDS stand alternative
Post by: Slackjaw on August 19, 2008, 07:50:10 PM
I paid $99 for the PDS-10 B-stock, and would have paid the full $150 if I had to.  This is a rock-solid heavy-duty solution for mounting and performing with your $1,300 processor.  Just my two cents.
Title: Re: Roland VG-99 PDS stand alternative
Post by: Piperbret on October 05, 2008, 05:01:42 PM
Hello Everyone,
First of all, I am not a professional musician so this tip may not work for a professional gig. However, I do perform with friends on a stage and my stand works very well. I use a black, high quality music stand for my VG-99. It is meant to hold music books or sheet music. It is not the cheap chrome, folding music stands that you see all of the time. This would probably be used more in a church, symphony and etc. It is lightweight, very stable, adjustable and wide enough that the VG-99 is securely held in place. The tray is inclined 45 degrees with a two inch "lip" at the bottom. I believe I paid less than $25 for the stand. Anyway, works well for me.

Thanks
Title: Re: Roland VG-99 PDS stand alternative
Post by: musicman65 on October 05, 2008, 06:36:27 PM
I built a roadcase that holds the vg-99 and fc-300 in a single box that splits into two wedge shaped halves fast setup. It also houses my midi synth module and a voicebox setup.It has 5 extra footsitches and an extra expession pedal. Everything is pre-wired. Sets up in 3 mins including the mic and stand.

Can be seen here...click on the VG-99 Roadcase link on the left side menu.

http:\\www.cruzerrocks.com
Bd in tn
Title: Re: Roland VG-99 PDS stand alternative
Post by: musicman65 on October 05, 2008, 06:41:19 PM
CORRECTION:typo on web address below.This one is correct.

I built a roadcase that holds the vg-99 and fc-300 in a single box that splits into two wedge shaped halves fast setup. It also houses my midi synth module and a voicebox setup.It has 5 extra footsitches and an extra expession pedal. Everything is pre-wired. Sets up in 3 mins including the mic and stand.

Can be seen here...click on the VG-99 Roadcase link on the left side menu.

http:\\www.cruzerrocks.com
Bd in tn
Title: Re: Roland VG-99 PDS stand alternative
Post by: musicman65 on November 14, 2008, 07:02:07 PM
I permanently mounted mine in a roadcase with the fc-300.

Check out the pics. Click the link on the left menu to view it...
http://www.cruzerrocks.com

Bd in tn
Title: Re: Roland VG-99 PDS stand alternative
Post by: imdurc on February 11, 2009, 11:08:09 AM
After nearly choking when hearing the price for the PDS10 stand  :o (which is basically half a cymbal stand with a plate for the VG99 to sit on), I decided to find a way of making my own. After thinking that a mic stand and a self-made plate would be difficult, but not impossible, my dad came up with a very good idea. A camera tripod and a self-made wooden plate. Here's the result:

(https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fi138.photobucket.com%2Falbums%2Fq260%2Fimdurc%2F8e36b00f.jpg&hash=1a4ad7a35b46c5bcc93093920b27825971b3bfa1)

http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q260/imdurc/dc8ada45.jpg (http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q260/imdurc/dc8ada45.jpg) - Far shot
http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q260/imdurc/4fa94bbe.jpg (http://i138.photobucket.com/albums/q260/imdurc/4fa94bbe.jpg) - (Underside 1)
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Full credit to my dad for this one as I merely assisted where I could! Anyway, here's what was used:

1. A fairly new small tripod that I picked up for £10 off ebay
2. The wood was from an old bunk bed!
3. And the screws (M5 x 10) were bought in an assorted pack from Homebase. £1.99 for 3.5cm size length.

All can be easily sourced from various shops.

So, the wooden plate is solidly attached to the tripod head at the top by two screw points. One which attaches to the wooden board and the other which fits directly into the VG-99's corner screw point. Finally, you simply screw in the other 3 points on the VG-99, attaching it solidly to the stand. And because we used a tripod stand, the manoeverability is excellent.  8) Full tilt and height adjustments can be made with very little effort!

The only thing I'd probably change would be the M5 screws we picked up. The head is nut-like, so it means having to add a spanner to my guitar bag when I put the VG on and take it off. I'd have probably gone with the cross-head type screws if I'd seen a cheap pack. Maybe I'll pick up the more expensive pack next time I'm down there. Hmm...


So, an overall cost of about £12! Take that Roland!  :P ;D Can't believe they were trying to charge £85 for such a simple premise of a stand. The other alternative was to get a cymbal stand with a boom arm (£20) and modify it to take the VG in a similar way. That's basically all the Roland one is, after-all - A cymbal stand and a metal plate that gets gripped in place by the boom arm slot. Scandalous!
Again, another alternative arrived by Sound on Sound magazine's article on saving money in the studio. It was a simple idea of using this music stand - http://www.thomann.de/gb/thomann_orchesterpult.htm. (http://www.thomann.de/gb/thomann_orchesterpult.htm.) It can hold 3KG, which should be plenty and the holes in the top may have allowed SOME way to secure it to the stand. And at little over £10, it's certainly a DIY-less way of doing the job. 

Hope this helps other VG-99 users! This is a great place where I hope to spend some more time.  ;)
Title: Re: Roland VG-99 PDS stand alternative
Post by: Elantric on February 11, 2009, 11:36:04 AM
I love it - good work!!!
Title: Re: Roland VG-99 PDS stand alternative
Post by: baranger1 on February 11, 2009, 11:41:36 AM
Tell your Dad he did a great job!

Bill
Title: Re: Roland VG-99 PDS stand alternative
Post by: germanicus on February 22, 2009, 02:30:59 PM
FWIW, the pds stand is pretty expensive, but it IS a top quality item in terms of stability. I have zero fear of it tipping. Its pretty hefty.
Title: Re: Roland VG-99 PDS stand alternative
Post by: imdurc on February 23, 2009, 08:18:49 AM
That's all very well for the non-DIY amongst us, germanicus. But as we all know, you're basically paying for the plate that the VG99 screws into. The rest of the stand is a simple cymbal stand. Hardly an expensive item on its own. As I posted before, I was going to pick one up for £17-20. And the wood to make my own plate would've made a very small difference to the overall costs.

So, it still doesn't justify the huge cost that Roland's stand seems to garner. There's no getting away from that, otherwise there wouldn't be others here trying to do the same thing.

Personally, a good tripod stand (cheap or otherwise) can be just as good as the PDS10. Just don't buy cheap rubbish! Hence why my £10 tripod stand can take the full weight of the VG99, sitting vertically (not horizontally), plus my cable protruding out of the front (pulling it) and still, the stand does not fall.

There's no defending Roland's money grabbing escapades. Otherwise why wouldn't they just make a piece that fits tripod stands?? All tripods have a standarised fitting, so it would fit without any issues. But I guess, that wouldn't be worth their time...or money.

I mean, look at the price of the rack adapter that allows the VG99 to sit amongst other rack eqiupment - £139!! Jeez... Again, just buy a non-Roland branded rack adapter that shares the same functionality for maybe £15-30. Drill some screw points in the backplate, then screw in the VG99. I'm sure that wouldn't cost much to do either. There's no excuse for Roland's prices.
Title: Re: Roland VG-99 PDS stand alternative
Post by: Elantric on February 23, 2009, 12:17:16 PM


The APC-33 clamp is basically identical to the the top portion of the PDS-10, with universal clamp

$50 USD

http://www.samedaymusic.com/product--ROLAPC33



Title: Re: Roland VG-99 PDS stand alternative
Post by: UltimateGuitarSoul on February 23, 2009, 01:20:49 PM
Your father did an amazing job indeed! (https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fnicolaedabija.com%2Fmycookie%2F36%2F1235423801%2Fshocked.gif&hash=c66b53a49cd71b56dafe9b0344f4edd0c57a9065)

Congrats mate!  ;D

Regards,
-Mike
Title: Re: Roland VG-99 PDS stand alternative
Post by: LeeMorant on February 23, 2009, 01:31:20 PM
I use that £10 stand and you can use two of the holes on the bottom of the vg to secure it using the included knob bolty bits, perfectly stable and secure!
Title: Re: Roland VG-99 PDS stand alternative
Post by: Darter on February 23, 2009, 11:47:09 PM
I made the plate and used a boom-style drum stand. Very sturdy and free. Oh, and it extends over my FC300 and other pedals. I like THAT aspect of it.
Title: Re: Roland VG-99 PDS stand alternative
Post by: mousetrapreplica on May 18, 2009, 08:01:00 AM
Hey Musicman,

you've done with your setup exactly what I plan to do with mine!
I'll also squeeze in a small 8 button MIDI controller next to the VG-99, and a few extra Expression pedals next to the FCB1010(or FC300 if I change my mind) This is really going to help a bunch when I get mine made up, cheers mate!
I guess I'll have to do some weights so my scrawny little arms can carry it around everywhere.

Ryan
Title: Re: Roland VG-99 PDS stand alternative
Post by: mousetrapreplica on May 24, 2009, 07:45:28 AM
Hmmm, I've never had the urge to buy a stand, I just get to the venue and borrow the ever present milk crates which seem to abound in every Melbourne venue I've ever played in.

That's always worked fine, except for the time I accidentally pulled it off the milk crates whilst rocking out!
I managed to catch it with my right hand, whilst still playing with my left, and my head triggered the D-Beam pitch shift.
The audience loved it!
Title: Re: Roland VG-99 PDS stand alternative
Post by: Big Vern on June 12, 2009, 10:14:47 PM
Hi Guys,

Newbie here, do you think this stand would be substantial enough to support a VG-99??

http://www.inta-audio.com/products.asp?partno=180153

Best regards,

David
Title: Re: Roland VG-99 PDS stand alternative
Post by: Brent Flash on June 12, 2009, 10:18:03 PM
Quote from: Big Vern on June 12, 2009, 10:14:47 PM
Hi Guys,

Newbie here, do you think this stand would be substantial enough to support a VG-99??

http://www.inta-audio.com/products.asp?partno=180153

Best regards,

David
Yes.
Title: Re: Roland VG-99 PDS stand alternative
Post by: Big Vern on June 12, 2009, 10:53:49 PM
Cheers, I'll pick one up and get modding  ;)
Title: Re: Roland VG-99 PDS stand alternative
Post by: Bryan Michael on July 28, 2010, 08:05:39 PM
I only paid $89 for my PDS stand on closeout from Guitar Center.  I wouldn't trade it! That was a bargain (especially since my VG-99 was only like $850 as a DEMO from Sweetwater!)   ;D
Title: Re: Roland VG-99 PDS stand alternative
Post by: Vic1iful on July 29, 2010, 07:00:00 AM
Excellent job! Now we need to figure out how to make an FC300 with RDAC for $100 and we're in business! LOL
Title: Re: Roland VG-99 PDS stand alternative
Post by: randyskynrd on August 17, 2010, 04:37:08 PM
 8)i mounted my vg 99 with some cheap tin angle iron,i got with a garage door opener.just cut up a few pieces,1/4 20 nut and bolts.mounted right in my rack.it pays to have played with erecter sets,as a kid.
Title: Re: Roland VG-99 PDS stand alternative
Post by: ddlooping on August 18, 2010, 06:55:24 AM
Hi all :)

My VG-99 will sit on a tray, in the top half of this 2U-6U-4U flight case (http://www.flightcasewarehouse.co.uk/music/typeproducts2.asp?id=5062-2645)...
(https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.flightcasewarehouse.co.uk%2Fcontent%2Fproductpics%2F5062_4_l.jpg&hash=aa1ebe6901d5e3140ea17941cc42bcc6d8b0ed54)

Mockup made with another model of flight case:

(https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.dvdshrink.info%2Ftemp%2Fimages%2Fflight-case-v2.jpg&hash=9b4aa806d2d86f0d4ff6b4dd7f7d801b40bfb76b)

The flight case will either be on the floor or "milk-crates", depending on the situation.

If necessary, at a later date I might get a sturdy music stand to secure the case to.

(https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.inta-audio.com%2Fimages%2Fproducts%2Fmedium%2F1251814613-04056700.jpg&hash=e3917216e6615d6471db0125a098bcc01bcfefb9)

Title: Re: Roland VG-99 PDS stand alternative
Post by: A2theT on August 18, 2010, 01:25:34 PM
that music stand is a great idea!  mine sits on an unused marshall cab....  i gotta find a music stand like that or somehow mount it on a PA tripod, but they're usually too high.
Title: Re: Roland VG-99 PDS stand alternative
Post by: ddlooping on August 18, 2010, 02:14:03 PM
Quote from: A to the T on August 18, 2010, 01:25:34 PM
that music stand is a great idea!
Indeed, thanks to David/Big Vern. :)
Title: Re: Roland VG-99 PDS stand alternative
Post by: Macciza on August 18, 2010, 11:01:08 PM
Quote from: ddlooping on August 18, 2010, 06:55:24 AM
Hi all :) . . .{ snip}

If necessary, at a later date I might get a sturdy music stand to secure the case to.

(https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.inta-audio.com%2Fimages%2Fproducts%2Fmedium%2F1251814613-04056700.jpg&hash=e3917216e6615d6471db0125a098bcc01bcfefb9)

Wow - That looks like the exact same music stand that I use in my setup; quite sturdy . . .
My VG sits directly on it - VL70 module slanting up above and behind VG . . .
And looking for a drum attachment to stick a midi controller on below and in front; for amp controls etc . .
Title: Re: Roland VG-99 PDS stand alternative
Post by: sixeight on August 19, 2010, 12:16:41 PM
I also use a music stand, but made a little shelf below, so I can but lyrics or my Macbook on the stand. In the picture below you can see my stand reasonably well. I used an existing block from a kidsseat for a bicycle (typical Dutch thing that is, cycling with one adult an two kids on one bicycle) - picture of the block included. I made a shelf myself, with a small edge around the VG-99. Fits like a glove.

I wouldn't put an entire flightcase on the stand. It's too wobbly for that.

(https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.snapagogo.com%2Fuploads%2Fsource%2F912016%2F1459524138_1380196514_DIYVG99stand.JPG&hash=1393723a3b49f9a5dc087498127ac21a9beaa870)

(https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.snapagogo.com%2Fuploads%2Fsource%2F912016%2F1459524128_145428106_bobikemontageblok.jpg&hash=8701d61bd163e7f7b55c3d74632bbccfd3414fe1)
Title: Re: Roland VG-99 PDS stand alternative
Post by: ddlooping on August 19, 2010, 12:19:44 PM
Nice one, sixeight. :)
Title: Re: Roland VG-99 PDS stand alternative
Post by: fokof on August 22, 2010, 10:37:48 AM
I took your idea an added a little twist ; to make an easy "live" set up.

Same camera tripod and wooden plate idea but I added a bicycle quick release with an integrated bolt on the wooden plate to be able to mount and dismount rapidly.
-Find a seat collar quick release (threaded all the way)
-the M5 bolt has to be very solidly "incrusted" in the wooden plate , I added a washer at the bottom so it won't pass through with time. (I used a presta valve bolt)
-You have to cut the quick release so it doesn't scratch the surface of your VG once mounted. Do all the testing without the VG attached
-Do not "over tight" the quick release , it will "pull" the bolt through the wooden plate

I also have a PDS10 , (needed something lighter) it takes maybe 30 seconds more, but it hold as fine and is 3-4 times lighter

I was lucky and found a very good used tripod (Manfrotto) for very cheap
Title: Re: Roland VG-99 PDS stand alternative
Post by: fokof on August 22, 2010, 10:40:51 AM
Here are some photos
Title: Re: Roland VG-99 PDS stand alternative
Post by: s0c9 on August 29, 2010, 09:30:01 AM
Isn't it a little unstable ???
How do you prevent it from tipping over ?
Does the macbook sitting on top counter-balance the VG99 ??
Title: Re: Roland VG-99 PDS stand alternative
Post by: ddlooping on August 29, 2010, 09:40:52 AM
The set-up I'll be using live tomorrow (FC-300 not shown). :)

(https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.diazguitars.co.uk%2Fstuff%2Fvg-99-flight-case%2Fvg-99-flight-case.jpg&hash=b5c090b3f4558d44dcbb7e4e0821b1c64a62db4f)
(https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.diazguitars.co.uk%2Fstuff%2Fvg-99-flight-case%2Fvg-99-flight-case-side1.jpg&hash=85cf0249cb67a0f2467a6fbaa5e0c22bb91080fe)

I'll just put the flight case on a stool or something.  ;D

Plenty of space at the back for adaptors, leads and what-not.

(https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.diazguitars.co.uk%2Fstuff%2Fvg-99-flight-case%2Fvg-99-flight-case-back.jpg&hash=394199990db1f3859fd3d30ed45810014f1dd5a5)
Title: Re: Roland VG-99 PDS stand alternative
Post by: jburns on August 29, 2010, 01:15:07 PM
http://www.staples.com/Altra-Adjustable-Laptop-Cart/product_729375

this fits my 99 perfectly and i got it from a staples for 20 bucks...
you can drill thru to mount it but its pretty sturdy by itself. i instead reinforced with some rubber pad risers in the back of the 99 (by the ins/outs) so it doesnt move back. have the stanmd with wheels is great and the extra shelf is good for tools,books what have you. the fact i can now rotate the 99 to the point where its facing me straight on helps when im changing the outs or putting the usb in or just anything changing wires cause i dont have to bend over the unit and im using it this way for some dbeam actions as well that allow me push into the beam instead of motioning over it. 5 sec. adjustment of rotating the shelf and its back to lying down. ill have to put some pics of this up eventually
Title: Re: Roland VG-99 PDS stand alternative
Post by: musicman65 on August 29, 2010, 05:56:46 PM
Music stands on stage are strictly forbidden in my neck of the woods..except in church or music recitals! LoL. I wish Roland would have made the VG99 rack mount style and put the big screen with a few extra knobs and buttons on the FC300.

Bd in tn
Title: Re: Roland VG-99 PDS stand alternative
Post by: musicman65 on August 29, 2010, 06:16:40 PM
Too bad nobody makes a decent roadcase that has room for a VG99, a 1RU size synth module and FC300 in the lid. I made my own but it was an all-day job.

Sets up and tears down in 3 minutes.

http://www.cruzerrocks.com/VG99/VG99_Case.htm

Bd in tn
Title: Re: Roland VG-99 PDS stand alternative
Post by: paults on August 29, 2010, 06:44:03 PM
Quote from: musicman65 on August 29, 2010, 05:56:46 PM
Music stands on stage are strictly forbidden in my neck of the woods..except in church or music recitals! LoL. I wish Roland would have made the VG99 rack mount style and put the big screen with a few extra knobs and buttons on the FC300.

Bd in tn


I didn't like the idea of a stand mounted VG - it seemed like too many cables to hook up for every gig, and having it on stage seemed like an invitation for destruction and too much floor space for a truly stable stand.  I had it mounted vertically in a rack for awhile, but chose a different option. You can put the VG-99 in your pedal board, and wave over the D-Beam with your foot instead of your hand, if you want to use it for anything.  The VG can stay connected to the controller, and could even be sitting on a rack mount synth in the pedal board, if you like.  It makes a very fast to set up and tear down rig - just attach a cable to whatever you are using for an amp/monitor, and you are done.   

 
Title: Re: Roland VG-99 PDS stand alternative
Post by: musicman65 on August 29, 2010, 08:52:33 PM
Yep...my thoughts exacty! I tried several ways and everything was too time consuming since I have the vg99, an FC300, a rack synth, a voicebox, a vocal mic, and kb amp to setup. My roadcase is completely prewired so I connect power, stereo outs and guitar input and I'm ready.

We have lights and sound to setup so I don't have time to spend with unpacking, mounting and cabling!

Bd in tn
Title: Re: Roland VG-99 PDS stand alternative
Post by: ddlooping on August 30, 2010, 10:23:13 AM
I did my first gig with the above set-up earlier today.
It all worked out fine, with the flight-case plopped on a couple of milk cases next to me.  ;D
Title: Re: Roland VG-99 PDS stand alternative
Post by: JCRob on October 16, 2010, 08:59:43 PM
Quote from:  Elantric on February 23, 2009, 12:17:16 PM

The APC-33 clamp is basically identical to the the top portion of the PDS-10, with universal clamp

$50 USD

http://www.samedaymusic.com/product--ROLAPC33





THIS IS IT!!!!!!   It's an original part, for a fraction of the price!!!!!!  And it's easier to transport, because you can find a pedestal anywhere, the important thing is the clamp...
THANK YOU!!!!
Title: Re: Roland VG-99 PDS stand alternative
Post by: designer on November 25, 2010, 02:43:19 AM
Quote from: cbeattyjr on May 08, 2008, 10:35:20 AM
Does the VG-99 need to be bolted to the $150.00 Roland unit?  This doesn't seem practical for gig use.

What do other people use?

Will a simple snare stand work?

i am in to saving a dime here and there but I am not mounting a $1200 guitar processor to a snare stand. Get the PDS 10 , you wont regret it.
Title: Re: Roland VG-99 PDS stand alternative
Post by: maxdaddy on November 25, 2010, 05:59:32 PM
Here's what I put together... I won't bore you with details about the "construction", but I will point out that all three pieces that went into the mount were already lying around the house.

1. A metal plate was cut from the case to an old SCSI hard drive (the cut is ugly... I did it with a sawzall) to about 12"x5".
2. A standard cast-iron plumbing flange mounts to the plate with four screws, this will cost a couple of dollars in a hardware store.
3. A piece of chrome pipe (from an old shower head) screws into the flange and mounts to a piece of drum hardware.

The whole thing was made from stuff I had on-hand. As shown in the picture of the VG on the mount, I only screw two of the thumb-screws into the VG and it is very secure.

Title: Re: Roland VG-99 PDS stand alternative
Post by: ddlooping on November 25, 2010, 07:31:41 PM
Nice one, maxdaddy. ;)
Title: Re: Roland VG-99 PDS stand alternative
Post by: Headless68 on February 21, 2015, 05:14:36 AM
I have one of these gorrilla laptop stands and its perfect for the VG-99 & very sturdy
and only cost £19 (new on ebay)  versus £220 for a Roland  PDS stand!

Title: Re: Roland VG-99 PDS stand alternative
Post by: Pin on February 26, 2015, 09:26:07 AM
There is no way a PDS stand costs £220 and that is despite Roland's pretty steep prices. I've seen them for less than £100 although that is too pricey I think for what they are. I paid about £75 for mine (still too expensive) but I ended up rack mounting the VG anyway. You can usually pick them up s/h for about £75 on Ebay but they don't come up all that often in the UK.

Perhaps I should sell the stand but may use it for a drum pad yet.

Anyway, good idea re the Gorilla stand. I have a Gorilla stand for an Axiom Air 25 Controller and they are well made and tough.
Title: Re: Roland VG-99 PDS stand alternative
Post by: Headless68 on February 26, 2015, 11:22:49 AM
I just saw the £220 on ebay - didnt bother looking any further than that :-)