Transferring Projects Between Different DAWs

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Keven M wrote>
Yes, I've used that file format going from Sonar to Protools. You basically get all of your tracks as audio files that start at 0:00 (regardless of whether audio data starts there or not). I also exported a single MIDI track so I could get time data (tempo and time signature) to accompany the project. It's a bit of work to do, but it can be done. I never had any luck going the OMF route.

shawnb

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Transferring projects as audio files works, but any automation is applied before export,  making it very difficult to continue editing your project.

If you want to continue editing, you need to export in one of the more open formats, like OMF or AAF.

Even these have issues, because many DAWs have proprietary methods for storing automation.

Thus, you end up exporting audio, and, finding techniques to convert automation to something more universal, like MIDI CCs,  then finding a way to use those CCs in your target DAW.

Oddly, OMF has issues with MIDI...   

So...   

Each xfer may take multiple steps:
- raw, unedited audio export/import
- conversion of automation to CCs
- midi export/import
- re-establishing automation

Even this assumes you have support for the same VSTs, AUs, etc., on the target platform.   You may be on a quest for new plugins.

The SONAR site has a helpful overview of what such a process might look like:
https://www.cakewalk.com/Support/Knowledge-Base/2007013040/Exporting-SONAR-Projects-as-OMF-Files-for-Use-in-Other-Applications
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admin

Ive also brute force transfer 8 tracks at a time from a Fostex Hardware DAW  to a PC with RME PCI board using ADAT Optical interface on each system

szilard

That's timely, Philips/Gibson has discontinued development on Cakewalk projects. At some point I'll transition to a different DAW. I've used Cakewalk SW since the late 80's.

http://www.cakewalk.com/Gibson-Announcement


germanicus

Anyone who is shopping for a Sonar replacement, if you have a Tripleplay, you have a license for Presonus Studio One Artist.
You can upgrade this to Professional v3 right now at a very low cost.

www.jrrshop.com and audiodelux are offering them at below 50% off regular prices (in conjunction with a black Friday sale).

So for less than $130 you can upgrade your tripleplay version to Professional 3 at the moment it seems.

Not sure if I want to jump on this, stick with sonar for the time being, or try out Cubase (way way back I gave that and logic a shot).
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Kevin M

Here's a doc I've created while running through a Sonar-to-Pro Tools migration example.  Hope this helps.


Kevin M

Quote from: Kevin M on November 25, 2017, 06:06:21 PM
Here's a doc I've created while running through a Sonar-to-Pro Tools migration example.  Hope this helps.

I tried a couple more time exporting (or saving, whichever) an OMF file from a Sonar project and opening that resultant file in Protools with zero luck. The audio bits appeared to be in the right places linearly, and in their respective tracks. However, less than half of them had any actual audio information in them, and the time-based info (tempo, meter, markers) didn't come across.  This was Sonar X3 to Protools 11.

shawnb

I've been reading good things about this tool, AATranslator:
http://www.aatranslator.com.au

Costs a few bucks, but may be worth it, depending on the volume of projects.
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