GT-001 - Gumtown's GT-001 FxFloorBoard editor

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gumtown

GT-001FxfloorBoard
editor now updated to
version 20170518  (18th May 2017)

Fixed the problem with muted patch levels when loading *.tsl (Tone Studio) patch files,
and updated a few minor tweaks.
for
Windows
Mac
Linux

download here
https://sourceforge.net/projects/fxfloorboard/files/GT-001FxFloorBoard/
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Kevin M

Awesome!  Thank you; I've been thinking about buying one of these when they become available.

MickTheHat

This is great news, Gumtown - especially since I bought the GT-001 last week on the strength of your recommendation of the similar GT-100 for use with Bass. Can I be cheeky and ask how close you might be to completing this new editor? Even cheekier, will you be converting your GT-100 patches (especially the Bass ones!) to the new .tsl format and sharing them with us? Thanks for your great GT-10 editor, which I use all the time.

gumtown

Completing the GT-001 editor may be still quite some time away,
I don't have a GT-001 to test on,
perhaps you could try the editor as it is so far and let me know what doesn't work?

The bass patches are now posted in the patches section,
try them with the Tone Studio editor and also let me know if they load in there OK..
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MickTheHat

Hi Gumtown,
Downloaded and tried out your preview GT-001 yesterday (Weds) morning, and have just downloaded your bass patches in .tsl this morning. Will try those as soon as I get home from work. I will be more than happy to let you know my experiences with both. Would you rather I posted my comments here - or elsewhere, perhaps?

PS There is an annoying bug here which refuses to accept my '6 stringed musical instrument' verification answer whenever I try to post, but is fine when the question is re the GK pins!

gumtown

It will have to be switched into 'deBug' mode (midi/usb preferences settings page) to 'connect'.
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Elantric

Quote
PS There is an annoying bug here which refuses to accept my '6 stringed musical instrument' verification answer whenever I try to post, but is fine when the question is re the GK pins!

Thats only for your first few posts -(its there to prevent Spambots  -  it goes away by post #4 or #5

MickTheHat

Quote from: gumtown on July 23, 2014, 03:54:27 PM

The bass patches are now posted in the patches section,
try them with the Tone Studio editor and also let me know if they load in there OK..

Sadly, I tried loading both your Bass .tsl and the 'Sounds Of The Heroes' .tsl into Tone Studio and neither of them worked. Specifically, they loaded – but only as as blank 'default' patches, with no changes in the main Editor GUI window.

MickTheHat

Quote from: gumtown on July 23, 2014, 03:54:27 PM
Completing the GT-001 editor may be still quite some time away,
I don't have a GT-001 to test on,
perhaps you could try the editor as it is so far and let me know what doesn't work?

Thought you might appreciate some initial feedback on my use of your GT-001 Editor preview version (though perhaps not, when you've read it!).

1. When first firing it up, and making sure that 'GT-001' is selected in the Midi/USB Preferences (debug mode on), the following message appears when the 'Connect' button is pressed:
   'Warning – Patch Data Received Is Incorrect! 2234'

2. In the User bank tree window on the left, all patch names are shown as 'Bad Data'.

3. When you select a slot (eg U001), another message appears saying
   'Patch Data Transfer Wrong Size Or Data Error. Please Make Sure The GT-001 is connected correctly and re-try'. (This message occurs every time you select a User slot).

4. However, when I select a slot in this way, the correct patch name is displayed on the GT-001 itself, and it plays and sounds as it should – but the pedal parameters displayed in your main GUI window remain exactly the same, whichever patch you use. If I then press, say, a chorus pedal and flange effect, this DOES turn on and affect the patch, but if I then change patches those pedals remain on but DO NOT affect the next patch.

5. It will not load .SYX, .MID or .GCL patches.

Obviously, I would like to have been more positive, but I fully appreciate that this a 'work-in-progress' project and I salute you for all the unsung work you've put into your previous editors. Good luck with this one. Anything I can do to help, in my cack-handed Newbie way, just ask!

gumtown

Thanks for trying it,
the magic number "2234" is what I was after,
being the data size of a GT-001 patch.

I will keep plugging away at the editor. . . . .
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gumtown

Quote from: MickTheHat on July 24, 2014, 02:50:11 PM
Sadly, I tried loading both your Bass .tsl and the 'Sounds Of The Heroes' .tsl into Tone Studio and neither of them worked. Specifically, they loaded – but only as as blank 'default' patches, with no changes in the main Editor GUI window.
That is odd, because with the GT-100 Tone Studio editor, I can load them and preview them on the GT-100.

Try the patch set below, this was loaded and saved completely by Tone Studio,
GT-100FxFloorBoard editor does not see any difference with this one or the one generated by itself.
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MickTheHat

Quote from: gumtown on July 24, 2014, 08:21:31 PM
Try the patch set below, this was loaded and saved completely by Tone Studio,
GT-100FxFloorBoard editor does not see any difference with this one or the one generated by itself.

Thank you. Look forward to trying these when I get back home from work in a couple of hours. Will let you know results tonight.

PS Just noticed that Stompbox has been hacked by some Moslem hatemongers.

MickTheHat

Quote from: gumtown on July 24, 2014, 08:21:31 PM
Try the patch set below, this was loaded and saved completely by Tone Studio,
GT-100FxFloorBoard editor does not see any difference with this one or the one generated by itself.

Progress, of sorts. This latest batch of 4 patches in .tsl WILL load correctly into Tone Studio. Each patch is shown by name in the 4 User slots on the left, and the parameters for each patch appear correctly in the main Editor window. The patch names also appear in the small LCD display of the GT-001 itself.

The BAD news is that the 4 patches are completely silent!

gumtown

They are setup to make use of the Foot Volume (EXP pedal), so the FV level could be at "0" (heel down).
I am not sure how this maps out for the GT-001, setting the FV level to 100 would fix it, or using an external EXP controller.

Also the first time I have seen patches interchanged between GT-001 <> GT-100,
I would have expected them being 100% compatible, especially using the Tone Studio editor.

I am sure we will get there in the end  ;)
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MickTheHat

Quote from: gumtown on July 25, 2014, 01:44:59 AM
They are setup to make use of the Foot Volume (EXP pedal), so the FV level could be at "0" (heel down).
I am not sure how this maps out for the GT-001, setting the FV level to 100 would fix it, or using an external EXP controller.

Bingo! We have liftoff, Mr Wunderkind!
I reloaded the 4 patches and opened them in the Editor window. Clicked on the 'FV' icon, which gave me access to its parameters - all set to '0'. Set Vol Min to '1', Vol Max to '100' and Level to '100' an Lo, the wondrous tones of God's Own Instrument wafted deliciously into my eardrums.
Baby steps, Mr Gumtown, but we are indeed getting there!

gumtown

updated the editor to version "20140725 preview", hopefully a step in the right direction.
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gumtown

version 20140729 which now collects data in debug mode and produces a file named "debug.bin".
If that data collection file could be sent to me for interigation of the patch data.
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MickTheHat

Quote from: gumtown on July 28, 2014, 05:23:36 AM
"debug.bin".
If that data collection file could be sent to me for interigation of the patch data.

Here it is, Mr G. Just fired up v20140729 (0728 here!). It's now showing the correct Patch names in the bank tree. Not yet showing correct parameters for patches created on the GT-001, but I quickly tried loading a couple of your .gcl Bass patches. $$Moneymaker$$ worked ok, and the parameters seemed to show in the main window - but I guess there will still be a problem (eg with your Volume Pedal patches) where the set-up in your original machine (GT-100) does not match that of the GT-001, because of the latter's lack of pedal and control switches. Perhaps original GT-100 patches will have to be re-saved without those specific parameters, i.e SFX only, no switches/pedals.
Brill work so far, Mr.G. Thanks a million.

gumtown

Thanks for the debug file, valuable info on patch structure in there.
Just one more required to do the System/midi stuff.
If you can delete the existing debug.bin file (so a new one is generated),
and after the "connect" is lit, press the SYSTEM and MIDI buttons.
Then it should capture the system data file structure into the debug.bin file.
and post here.

I will keep on hammering out GT-001FxFloorBoard updates until it is right.
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MickTheHat

Quote from: gumtown on July 28, 2014, 06:09:16 PM
Just one more required to do the System/midi stuff.

Followed your instructions. When I pressed 'System' button the first time, FxFlBd crashed.
Deleted 'debug.bin', started again.
This time, press 'Midi' first. This message appeared:
"The Boss GT-001 System data was not transferred!!" (Midi GUI Window opened - closed it)
Pressed 'System' button - same message as above appeared (System GUI window opened - closed it).
Saved 'debug.bin' as per attachment below.
Good Luck, Mr G!

gumtown

Another succession of updates,
the latest "20140806" (6th August... it is here.. GMT+12)
I hope the past issues have been fixed, would like to know if anything is not working.

Yet to modify (remove) some of the GT-100 pedal assignments out of the Assigns and function lists.

This is the download link, also uploaded a mac osx version too.
http://sourceforge.net/projects/fxfloorboard/files/GT-001FxFloorBoard/
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MickTheHat

Hi, Mr G,
More improvement with the latest (0806) version of FxFbd. Now, when I load one of your original .gcl patches, not only does it play but also the correct parameters & FX are displayed in the main GUI window. The bank tree on the left now displays the currently-loaded patchnames on my GT-001, but the GUI does not yet indicate the appropriate parameters. Will play with this some more later (had to finish my Bass patches first!). Clearly there are differences between the two machines, despite them containing the same basic chipsets - but I'm sure you'll conquer them in the end, mate!

gumtown

Thanks for try it out  :)

A quick operating tip that might not be obvious with out a help document yet..

The "patch tree" in the left panel,
a 'single mouse click' will change the GT-001 patch - allowing auditioning of the selected GT-001 patch to compare it with the current one in the editor GUI. The current edited patch contents will remain unchanged in the editor.
a 'double mouse click' will load the selected GT-001 patch into the GUI and replace the current displayed one.

The latest editor version should be able to open and load (and convert) GT-100/001 *.smf, *.gcl, *.tsl, *.syx, GT-10 *.gxg and *.syx, GT-10B *.gxb and syx, GT-8 *.syx, and GT-6B *.syx files.

I hope the System/Midi menu's load in the system data correctly (without error).
If not, I may require another debug.bin dump which has had the system/midi windows opened many times (in debug mode and waited until the bottom left data dialog has finished receiving).


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MickTheHat

By Jove, chaps...I think he's done it!
Seems to be 'reading' my patches just fine now, Mr. G., and the visual parameters are appearing in the main GUI.

When I open each bank in the left-hand tree, each named patch opens a trifle sluggishly, whilst a message appears at the bottom of the page, together with a very long number, to indicate that the system is reading. Each ensuing bank opens slowly, patch by patch but, once open, the patch-names remain and can be readily accessed as normal.

Have loaded a variety of assorted patch formats, mostly with success, but I think the abiding problem will remain that of patches which include volume/switch/controller/pedal criteria from the GT-100 which the GT-001 may not recognize or act upon.
Perhaps people can add short descriptions to their patches, advising of specific switching requirements?

Will spend more time giving it a sound thrashing, but I think you're virtually there, Mr.G. Cheers.

gumtown

The true test will be disabling the debug mode,
that will speed up the loading time considerably of patches and patch names (so long as all goes well).

I hope the system/midi window/pages open OK too with no errors.
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