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[flingus]

It's funny, I own a TC Electronics G Major and never tried anyone elses presets, and haven't tried it with the VG99 yet either.
I will check them out this weekend for sure. Been tweaking here and there, trying to learn as much as I can before going in too deep!

I know this is kind of another subject but, has anyone been able to get the GK3 to emulate the arcade button on Buckethead's guitar? From the bit I've read, you can assign some of the buttons on the GK3 to do things other than what they're 'meant' for. I was wondering if you could program one of the up/down buttons to mute/unmute your guitar.

[flingus]

Will have to try the momentary mute when I get home tonight. Hopefully there is no lag when muting or unmuting.

Hopefully I'll have time to take a look at everything else mentioned too. I really want to get this setup as close to perfect as possible. I used the VG99 for a gig that is up a good flight of stairs and, it was nice just having to tote my MM, VG99, FC300, and a couple of cables instead of my Mesa rig. I love my tube rig but, damn its heavy. I plugged it right into the PA and it sounded pretty good.

[Elantric]

Hopefully there is no lag when muting or unmuting.

Sadly - I expect there Will be much lag and sluggish response time.

 

[paults]

If response is sluggish, try using COSM volume, Tone Volume or AMP MIC Level instead.  I use AMP MIC LEVEL to mute the send to the GR-55 main outs when I turn on the Guitar Out to send to my Talkbox, and the mute is instantaneous.

[flingus]

Well, I've been insanely busy and trying to wrap my head around the vg-99. I'm not used to MIDI, never owned a roland product before, and usually just stick with straight fx units.. That being said..

I finally had a chance to try using S1 to mute the patch and I just didn't get anywhere. I went to the pages in the manual and it seems pretty straight forward but, it seems no matter what I do the S1 or S2 buttons are not doing a thing.

What I did do is, changed S1 to "Patch Level", and then tried a couple of different settings over a page from that screen. Changing min and max to different values. I tried 0, 100, and everything in between and it never seemed to make a difference. Is there another setting somewhere else in the VG99 I should be concerned with to get this to work? I tried turning the volume knob assignment off as well to see if it was overriding something but, it didnt make a difference either way. I also changed the preset I was using so it was only 1 cosm guitar so, its not like cosm 2 was coming through but cosm 1 was muting. I'm also using just the GK pickup setting on the actual pickup so, no normal guitar is coming through as well. Trying to make this experiment as simple and straight forward as possible..

Hopefully someone sees this reply, the forum is suggesting I just create a new thread.

Thanks,

Flingus

[aliensporebomb]

Well, I've been insanely busy and trying to wrap my head around the vg-99. I'm not used to MIDI, never owned a roland product before, and usually just stick with straight fx units.. That being said..

I finally had a chance to try using S1 to mute the patch and I just didn't get anywhere. I went to the pages in the manual and it seems pretty straight forward but, it seems no matter what I do the S1 or S2 buttons are not doing a thing.

What I did do is, changed S1 to "Patch Level", and then tried a couple of different settings over a page from that screen. Changing min and max to different values. I tried 0, 100, and everything in between and it never seemed to make a difference. Is there another setting somewhere else in the VG99 I should be concerned with to get this to work? I tried turning the volume knob assignment off as well to see if it was overriding something but, it didnt make a difference either way. I also changed the preset I was using so it was only 1 cosm guitar so, its not like cosm 2 was coming through but cosm 1 was muting. I'm also using just the GK pickup setting on the actual pickup so, no normal guitar is coming through as well. Trying to make this experiment as simple and straight forward as possible..

Hopefully someone sees this reply, the forum is suggesting I just create a new thread.

Thanks,

Flingus

Before I try to answer your question I guess I'm trying to figure out what you are trying to accomplish?  Are you trying to switch back and forth from your regular guitar sound to the VG and back or???

Once I get an idea of what you're trying to do there may be a simpler way of performing what task you're trying to achieve than it appears.

[Elantric]

Before I try to answer your question I guess I'm trying to figure out what you are trying to accomplish?

"has anyone been able to get the GK3 to emulate the arcade button on Buckethead's guitar?"

[flingus]

Yep, what Elantric said.. Just want my guitar to mute and unmute by pressing my S1 button. (To create a on/off kind of effect. Buckethead is pretty popular for doing this..)

I have a feeling I'm missing part of the 'setup'. The area where you tell the VG99 what you want the S1 or S2 to do seems very straight forward. I'm a little surprised it doesn't have a mute or unmute but, patch volume seems like a logical route.

Thanks !

[datsunrobbie]

If not a direct "mute", perhaps possible to activate the tuner using the s1 switch?

[Elantric]

You would set the S1 Control assignment as "non-latching" to feature the momentary action, and assign it to tuner  - to perform the "mute" action

[aliensporebomb]

The slicer effect also does a reasonably facsimile of the stuttering effect if need be....

I just tried out the Buckethead model Gibson guitar and it's actually got professional arcade game buttons built into the guitar for
the muting purpose.  Slick effect.

[cynegetic]

Ribbon may be a little more responsive.

[flingus]

Some success! I was able to manage assigning S1 to activate the tuner. (Believe it or not, this was not easy)
It works but, its a little slow. Still getting used to the vg99 so, I'm not sure why its 'acting' the way it is but, I'm going to make sure I have it set to momentary. I couldn't for the life of me find where that option was until I did a search in the PDF version of the manual.

>BARELY< checked out any of this units effects and, the slicer effect is friggin awesome. All the different modes available, and speed is just great. Only bummer is its not as 'reactive' as say, hitting a button to change the tempo of the slicing effect but, its still cool.

I'm getting lost in all these settings.. When this or that is overriding another thing kind of scenario. I understand MUCH more about the vg99 now. Still have to try muting the mixer or amp mic and see how that works.. Will post my findings.

Always wanted to try Bucketheads gibson. It's pretty pricey but, very cool. I've seen him play it live and its amazing how easy he makes it look to play the way he does.. Like him or not, he is in my opinion the poster child of efficiency. I have to look at my guitar neck when switching from a G chord to a C. :S Don't think he looked at his neck the whole concert. lol.

Thanks to everyone!

[aliensporebomb]

Or you could try something like this!

Play slow arpeggios.  Problem is: my pick upstrokes and downstrokes sound like a guy slouching in rubber boots in the mud but it's a start.

[LPHovercraft]

FWIW... I planned to create a 'mute' trigger by using the Keith McMillen SoftStep to send MIDI 7 on a 0/127 toggle (with the red LED indicator on the assigned pad showing mute state active). That said, it's only a plan. I haven't set it up so I don't know if the crazy idea will work. That essentially would put the 'logic' (for the lack of a better word) for the muted state "outside the box".

For my situation it would be to let me play a two-handed solo on one side of the fretboard, and *not* worry about sympathetic ring on the 'other' side of the instrument where my hand would normally do whatever muting is required - or is simply masked by simultaneous play on both sides of the instrument.

Your scenario (and mileage) may vary, but I'm a big fan of KMI gear for its utility, toughness and portability. It's worth a look if you have the time, budget and space for it.

[aliensporebomb]

For muting during two handed parts I might get get a girl's hair scrunchie at Target.  Nothing glamorous mind you.

I literally put that patch together in like 2 minutes, I think I could find a better distorted tone for it.

[LPHovercraft]

Wow - I completely misread this thread. Sorry, guys.