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Re: Marc Benigni's GR-55 TouchOSC Navigator for iPad
« Reply #225 on: October 18, 2011, 03:14:20 PM »

Yup. Midi Touch ($9.99) + Camera Kit will get you going with ease.
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Re: Marc Benigni's GR-55 TouchOSC Navigator for iPad
« Reply #226 on: October 18, 2011, 03:17:58 PM »

Although with an Ipad - you will want the Ipad version of MIDI Touch -which is $19.95

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Re: Marc Benigni's GR-55 TouchOSC Navigator for iPad
« Reply #227 on: October 18, 2011, 03:20:16 PM »

Thanks every one!
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Re: Marc Benigni's GR-55 TouchOSC Navigator for iPad
« Reply #228 on: October 18, 2011, 03:22:20 PM »

Although with an Ipad - you will want the Ipad version of MIDI Touch -which is $19.95

My mistake. I thought it was universal app. Totally don't remember paying $19.99 for it. Wonder if I got it during one of those occasional price discount times... Oh well.
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Re: Marc Benigni's GR-55 TouchOSC Navigator for iPad
« Reply #229 on: October 19, 2011, 12:21:07 PM »

I have looked at all the midi data in OSCTouch editor,  they all start with xF0,   That means they are all SysEx messages,  why is that,   Should some of them , e.g. Patch change can be CC or PC message instead?
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Re: Marc Benigni's GR-55 TouchOSC Navigator for iPad
« Reply #230 on: October 19, 2011, 12:36:46 PM »

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That means they are all SysEx messages,  why is that, 

Because MIDI Sysex is the ONLY path/ method to control EVERY element of the GR-55.

We have to thank Gumtown for snooping and debugging this - without any documentation!

Luckily Gumtown has "been there done" that before, creating third party editors for other Roland gear, like his excellent BossGT-10 Floorboard editor.
 

But simple remote MIDI control of Patch up  / down and making knob / faders for the limited Eight assignable MIDI CC# Continuous Controllers should not be too difficult.


Here's another Alesis I/O dock Core MIDI  IOS app "MIDI Tool box":
http://itunes.apple.com/au/app/midi-tool-box/id443115330?mt=8






and MIDI Monitor is free
http://itunes.apple.com/au/app/midi-monitor/id395750746?mt=8



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Re: Marc Benigni's GR-55 TouchOSC Navigator for iPad
« Reply #231 on: October 19, 2011, 12:37:41 PM »

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We have to thank Gumtown for snooping and debugging this - without any documentation!

Amen to that!
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Re: Marc Benigni's GR-55 TouchOSC Navigator for iPad
« Reply #232 on: October 19, 2011, 12:40:53 PM »

I have looked at all the midi data in OSCTouch editor,  they all start with xF0,   That means they are all SysEx messages,  why is that,   Should some of them , e.g. Patch change can be CC or PC message instead?

If nothing else, you can get some mileage out of copying the CC Message faders and XY pads to your own template, and moving those simple messages over to the MIDI tab on each control.  These can be used with the Assigns in the GR55 to control quite a few things.  Unfortunately, I don't think patch navigation is among them. 

But things like pickup selection, amp selection, etc. are, and if you experiment you can begin replacing these sliders with distinct buttons that call out the components/ positions (i.e. the specific values) you prefer, which could be very useful in performance.

I've said it about a dozen times already, but I think one of the most exciting things about these iOS interface apps (TouchOSC, MIDI Touch, etc) is that everyone can wind up with a UI that exactly suits their own personal preferences.
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Re: Marc Benigni's GR-55 TouchOSC Navigator for iPad
« Reply #233 on: October 19, 2011, 02:45:55 PM »

Thanks!  do you mean GR-55 will not accept standard CC and PG midi control?
I remember long time ago, I can use my GT-5 to send program change message to my GR-55 to select a patch.
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Re: Marc Benigni's GR-55 TouchOSC Navigator for iPad
« Reply #234 on: October 19, 2011, 02:50:07 PM »

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do you mean GR-55 will not accept standard CC and PG midi control?

Quite the contrary - its rather standard in that regard and will accept program change commands  -AFTER you enable MIDI Patch change reception.

And set the correct MIDI Channel too (PATCH CH = 1 thru 16)

To enable MIDI Patch change reception set (PC RX Switch = ON)
 
See GR-55 Owners Manual page 79



But  it restricts you to a total of eight total MIDI CC# commands which you must manually assign each.
Of the hundreds of available GR-55 effect parameters, only 8 can be controlled at a time using MIDI CC#.
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Re: Marc Benigni's GR-55 TouchOSC Navigator for iPad
« Reply #235 on: October 19, 2011, 03:04:07 PM »

So how do you enable MIDI Patch change reception?
What are the allowed CC commands from the short list?

Thanks again!
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Re: Marc Benigni's GR-55 TouchOSC Navigator for iPad
« Reply #236 on: October 19, 2011, 03:35:14 PM »

Read post directly above on how to enable MIDI Patch Change reception

This is a list of ALL available Control sources for the  GR-55:
(Observe  that not all MIDI CC# (1 thru 128) are available)
You may create Eight Total Control Assigns from the possible controller sources in this list.
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Re: Marc Benigni's GR-55 TouchOSC Navigator for iPad
« Reply #237 on: October 19, 2011, 03:42:03 PM »

This is a list of ALL available GR-55 FX Parameter Targets you may control remotely using the EIGHT Control Assignments:










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Re: Marc Benigni's GR-55 TouchOSC Navigator for iPad
« Reply #238 on: October 19, 2011, 03:46:50 PM »

Most will discover its easiest to assign the hundreds of available GR-55 FX parameter Targets (as listed in the post above) to the Eight Control ASSIGNS using Gumtown's GR-55 Floorboard Editor :


 
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Re: Marc Benigni's GR-55 TouchOSC Navigator for iPad
« Reply #239 on: October 19, 2011, 04:12:03 PM »

Thanks again!

Where did you find out all these details?  or am I miss reading in the owner manual?
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Re: Marc Benigni's GR-55 TouchOSC Navigator for iPad
« Reply #240 on: October 19, 2011, 04:19:18 PM »

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Where did you find out all these details?  or am I miss reading in the owner manual?


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We have to thank Gumtown for snooping and debugging this - without any documentation!

Double Amen to that!

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Re: Marc Benigni's GR-55 TouchOSC Navigator for iPad
« Reply #241 on: October 19, 2011, 04:41:05 PM »

Yes!  Thanks to Gumtown!
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Re: Marc Benigni's GR-55 TouchOSC Navigator for iPad
« Reply #242 on: October 20, 2011, 09:38:17 AM »

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Thanks!  do you mean GR-55 will not accept standard CC and PG midi control?
I remember long time ago, I can use my GT-5 to send program change message to my GR-55 to select a patch.

Right, my mistake.  I'm actually using SysEx for my patch navigation (adapted from a template MCK developed), but yes it should have occurred to me that simple Program Change messages would work!
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Re: Marc Benigni's GR-55 TouchOSC Navigator for iPad
« Reply #243 on: October 24, 2011, 09:40:14 AM »

I've finally started shooting the YouTube vids I mentioned earlier.  Very informal stuff - no editing, just one camera pointed at the iPad while I blather on, podcast-style.  The first two videos are strictly a verbal introduction to concepts, stuff you guys already know, but I hope to have more up soon.  Hope these links work:

TouchOSC for Roland GR55, Part 1

TouchOSC for Roland GR55, Part 2
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Re: Marc Benigni's GR-55 TouchOSC Navigator for iPad
« Reply #244 on: October 25, 2011, 03:18:06 AM »

Great stuff! Thanks for putting in the time.
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Re: Marc Benigni's GR-55 TouchOSC Navigator for iPad
« Reply #245 on: October 26, 2011, 04:08:57 PM »

Great stuff! Thanks for putting in the time.
Thanks, MCK. I'd expected to have a third, more substantial episode posted by now, but I wound up in the maternity ward instead! :O
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Re: Marc Benigni's GR-55 TouchOSC Navigator for iPad
« Reply #246 on: October 26, 2011, 04:29:58 PM »

CONGRATULATIONS !!!  ;D
Another member for the family band !!

I am expecting one in december,
this time i hope we make it to the hospital. :o
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Re: Marc Benigni's GR-55 TouchOSC Navigator for iPad
« Reply #247 on: October 26, 2011, 05:43:25 PM »

CONGRATULATIONS. WHAT A PLEASANT ADDITION TO THE FAMILY ;D
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Re: Marc Benigni's GR-55 TouchOSC Navigator for iPad
« Reply #248 on: October 26, 2011, 06:12:10 PM »

Congratulations!
Thanks for sharing.

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Re: Marc Benigni's GR-55 TouchOSC Navigator for iPad
« Reply #249 on: October 26, 2011, 07:55:25 PM »

Ah!  Congratulations on your new arrival!  Be sure to catch catnaps when you can - my co-worker just had a daughter and, well, he's had better sleep!  Congratulations again!
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