64bit editor ?

[2pods]

Does the current editor work with Win 7 64bit ?
(Using the 64bit driver obviously  )

[TheGuitarPlayer]

Absolutely.  Like most 32bit software, the VG-99 Editor works fine on 64-bit versions of Windows 7.

[2pods]

That's great, thanks 

Is it just drivers that have to be 64bit then ?

I know Superior Drummer 2 has a 64bit public beta on the go, as does Cubase.

[A to the T]

Yes.  I'm running the 32bit editor/librarian + Windows 7 64bit drivers and all is good.

[TheGuitarPlayer]

Yes, only the drivers need to be 64-bit.  User applications (like the VG-99 editor) can make 32-bit or 64-bit calls to the OS (based on whether they are 32-bit or 64-bit applications) and the OS handles interacting with the hardware.  In other words 32-bit programs can talk to hardware that's running on a 64-bit computer with a 64-bit OS and 64-bit drivers.  If this wasn't the case, no 32-bit applications would work as they all fundamentally rely on said hardware to run.

[2pods]

So what is the the advantage of 64 bit programs ?

[TheGuitarPlayer]

Access to large amounts of memory.  Access to more registers on the CPU (the CPU's memory).

[2pods]

Ah, thought so.

Thanks   

[MCK]

If you have 4GB or less memory it does not seem to make much difference.

[2pods]

I have a new laptop arriving with W7 64bit preinstalled.
It has it's own .5gb graphics card and 4gb of system ram.

AIUI although I only get to use about 3.4gb with my desktop 4gb W732 (32 bit system address limit etc), on the laptop W764 needs 2gb, so with only 4gb installed in the laptop it's unlikely I'll see any difference ?

[A to the T]

Your Win32bit desktop PC can only make use of 3g of ram.  If memory re-mapping is enabled in the bios of your new laptop (most likely), then your new 64bit Windows will utilize all 4gb of ram.  There will be a difference especially when loading in memory hogging softsynths.  Anything over 4gb will swap and load samples etc from the harddrive.

[2pods]

I know (see above).

What I think I meant to ask was:

Is the memory usage of the 64bit OS itself, any more than the 32bit OS version ?

[Elantric]

Is the memory usage of the 64bit OS itself, any more than the 32bit OS version ?

64 bit apps will execute faster and access larger memory arrays for processing

Reaper Audio has a 64 bit version for its DAW
http://www.reaper.fm/

, and many newer VST plugins offer 64 bit versions

Running Win7 64, i see it takes more space on the hard drive, because it maintains two separate "Programs" folders - one for older 32 bit apps and another for 64 bit apps.

Same goes for VST plugins - it keeps the 32 bit ones in a separate folder from the 64 bit ones.



The big benefit of 64 bit apps running on a 64 bit OS is breaking the WinXP 3.5GB RAM barrior, and effective use of multicore processors, in todays 8 core Intel CPU world.

 

[2pods]

Thanks, thats made it more clear for me 

[s0c9]

64 bit apps will execute faster and access larger memory arrays for processing

Reaper Audio has a 64 bit version for its DAW
http://www.reaper.fm/

, and many newer VST plugins offer 64 bit versions

Running Win7 64, i see it takes more space on the hard drive, because it maintains two separate "Programs" folders - one for older 32 bit apps and another for 64 bit apps.

Same goes for VST plugins - it keeps the 32 bit ones in a separate folder from the 64 bit ones.



The big benefit of 64 bit apps running on a 64 bit OS is breaking the WinXP 3.5GB RAM barrior, and effective use of multicore processors, in todays 8 core Intel CPU world.

Win7x64 "Ultimate" [in my case] has a slightly larger memory footprint too - about 800Mb - than does my XP64 equivalent which runs in about 600Mb [average]. My AMD64 architecture can access ALL 4GB of RAM - minus the usual reserved for system, etc. However, I have not really noticed much performance difference between Reaper 64 and std 32-bit versions.. i have both installed.
Also - I have not noticed Win7 specifically separating 64 vs 32-bit VST's into separate locations... they all seem to install into the default \VSTplugins folder on my machine anyway.  I have tried to split them out.. but don't have many 64-bit ones yet.
FWIW - unless you specifically tell Reaper 64 to use 32-bit VST's, it will SKIP them in the scans. There's a knowledge base article on the cockos forum somewhere about how to set Reaper64 up do use 32-bit VST's.