Boss GP-10 Docs anywhere yet?

[dayn]

Any idea when the manual will be released and posted online?

[Elantric]

EDIT June 20, 2014


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https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=11796.msg85343#msg85343

[Bill Ruppert]

OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The Osc Synth is everything I could ask for on paper.
Parameters are wonderful
If it sounds and plays great this box will kill.

[rolandvg99]

OMG!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The Osc Synth is everything I could ask for on paper.
Parameters are wonderful
If it sounds and plays great this box will kill.

My thoughts as well. For me it's the key selling point. I'm hoping for a future magic box with one OSC synth and FX chain for each string. Goodbye social life!

[mojo thorne]

As expected, requires downloading Roland USB drivers in order to send/receive midi.  While I was prepared for this, some part of me was still holding out hope for a class compliant USB device so that I could control this box live from another source without needed to involve a computer.

Well, ok then... gives me a good reason to put this behind me and look forward to other gear.

[Elantric]

As expected, requires downloading Roland USB drivers in order to send/receive midi.  While I was prepared for this, some part of me was still holding out hope for a class compliant USB device so that I could control this box live from another source without needed to involve a computer.

Well, ok then... gives me a good reason to put this behind me and look forward to other gear.

FWIW - I'm already prepping a MacMini for my Live Rig - intend to use my iPad running SpashTop Remote Desktop as a virtual OSX Display monitor. Or i might just use an old HP Mini 110 Netbook - just as a GP-10 MIDI over USB to 5 pin MIDI adapter.  (Lame)

But yes - in 2014 for Roland to remove the 5 pin MIDI I/O jacks for remote control, and also  ignore  / remain clueless about the importance of having a "driver-less" USB Class Compliant mode  - and thus zero iPad connectivity and zero path for remote patch changes using a MIDI foot pedal is a missed opportunity which WILL reflect in lower sales numbers in a tough market. 

[dayn]

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    You must select switch of the GK pickup to "MIX."
    If the switch is set to a position other than "MIX," then it will
    device is not working properly (there will be no sound).
    Roland GK-3 users Roland V-Guitar GC


Non-functional GK-3 Three way switch - Lame Roland design decision!!

What happens if you have a GK only guitar?

[Elantric]

What happens if you have a GK only guitar?

Then  any factory, Boss Tone Studio or user to user shared GP-10  patches that include "Normal PU Processing" will not sound as intended - since these dont exist on your guitar.

[jwhitcomb3]

Elantric,

Thank you for posting the translations. Some very interesting stuff there. For me, the pickup selector increment/decrement is a big deal, and I'm interested in checking out the various new COSM models, the harmonizer, etc.

[Elantric]

Some very interesting stuff there. For me, the pickup selector increment/decrement is a big deal,

FWIW, the Older VG-8, VG-88, and VG-99 all share the ability to sweep thru all 5 Strat PU combinations using the GK-3 S1 & S2 switches to increment decrement PU selection. They missed this important feature on GR55. Glad it's resurrected on Boss GP-10.

[sixeight]

Hey, I can read this manual. Great to be Dutch, but Elantric did a good job in translating.

It does look like the number of effects is limited:
Guitar / multiFX - amp - FX - Wah - Chorus - Delay - Reverb - Eq - NS - FV

Again no seperate compressor, distortion. The VG99 is definately superior in its effects.

[Elantric]

Hey, I can read this manual. Great to be Dutch, but Elantric did a good job in translating.

Maybe you can provide a better translation?

Like what does "toonhoogteverschuiving" mean?

Sweep Sw These WHIP function ensures a smooth toonhoogteverschuiving as the
toonhoogteverschuiving amount is changed to " Pitch Sw . "

Aha

"pitch shift"



Thank Google translate.

I simply selected each page of the Dutch GP-10 manual, copied and paste into Google Translate and post the results here in this thread. Took on hour including a 20 minute break.

https://translate.google.com/m/translate

[Elantric]

It does look like the number of effects is limited:
Guitar / multiFX - amp - FX - Wah - Chorus - Delay - Reverb - Eq - NS - FV

Again no seperate compressor, distortion. The VG99 is definately superior in its effects.

Suggest re-read Page 9, we will not know if we can only choose one at a time or several of the following FX types to be active at same time until the Boss GP-10 Parameter Guide is available, maybe in 2weeks.

FX ( FX : )
You can select the effect to be used from the following options:
parameter Explanation
On / Off Turns the effect on and off .
type
type FX

OD / DS This effect distorts the sound to create long sustain.

COMPRESSOR
This is an effect that creates long sustain the volume level
to equalize . the input signal You can also use it as an effect
limiter to prevent sound peaks and prevent distortion.

LIMITER The limiter softens high input levels to prevent distortion.

EQ Change the tone as with an equalizer.

T. WAH is a wah effect is produced according to the dynamics of your
attacks .

PITCH SHIFTER This effect changes the pitch of the original sound
( up or down ) within a range of two octaves .

HARMONIST
Harmonist is an effect in which the amount
Pitch shift is adjusted according to an analysis of
Guitar input letting you create based on harmonies
diatonic scales .

PEDAL BEND Allows you to use the pedal to the effect of a
obtain . tone height adjustment deflection

PHASER Variably phased parts to the direct sound to add ,
the phaser effect gives a whooshing , swirling character to the sound.
Flanger The flanger effect gives a bending , aircraft -like character
the sound.

TREMOLO Tremolo is an effect that creates a cyclic change in volume .

PAN
The volume levels of the left and right column alternate with each other and
if the sound is played back in stereo, you get an effect like it
guitar sound is flying back and forth between the speakers .

ROTARY This creates an effect that sounds like a rotary speaker.

UNI - V
This models a Uni - Vibe .
It resembles a phaser effect , but also provides a unique wave formation
you do not get from a regular phaser .

CHORUS This effect adds a slightly detuned sound to the original
sound, making it sound deeper and broader.

DELAY This effect adds delayed sound to the original sound
far , giving the sound more body or creating special effects.

OD / DS ( FxODDS : )
parameter Explanation
type
Type OD / DS

MID BOOST
This is a booster with unique features in the midtones .
If the connection to the amplifier is made ??, it produces
a sound that is suitable for solos .

CLEAN BOOST This not only serves as a booster , but also creates a pure
sound , even punch is you're playing .

TREBLE BOOST This is a booster with clear characteristics .

CRUNCH A bright crunch sound which amp distortion is added .

NATURAL OD This is an overdrive sound that provides a natural distortion .

HOT OD This is a warm overdrive sound .

DS FAT A distorted sound with heavy distortion .

LEAD DS produces a distorted sound with both the flexibility of a
Over a deep distortion.

METAL DS A distorted sound that is ideal for playing heavy riffs .

OCT FUZZ A fuzz sound with rich harmonies .

BLUES OD
This is a crunch sound of the BOSS BD - 2 .
This produces a distortion that faithfully the nuances of
attacks displays .

OD - 1
This models the sound of the BOSS OD - 1 .
This creates soft , mild distortion .

T -SCREAM This models an Ibanez TS -808 .

TURBO OD This is the high-gain overdrive sound of the BOSS OD - 2 .

DISTORTION This provides a basic sound with traditional distortion .
This models a Proco RAT RAT .

GUV DS This models an Marshall GUV ' NOR .

DST + This models a MXR DISTORTION + .
parameter Explanation
type

METAL ZONE
This models the sound of the BOSS MT-2.
It creates a long series of metal sounds, from the old style to slash
metal.

'60s FUZZ
This models a Fuzz Face.
It creates a fat fuzz sound.

MUFF FUZZ This models an Electro-Harmonix Big Muff ?.
Drive Adjusts the depth of the distortion.
Tone adjusts the tone.
Level Adjusts the volume of the effect sound.
Bottom Adjust the bass.
D. Level Adjusts the volume of the direct sound.

Solo Sw Switches the tone in a suitable for solos.
Solo Lv Adjusts the volume level as Solo Sw ON.

[oddguitar]

OK - confirmed the GP-10's Guitar Out is like the VG-99 - and does NOT output any COSM Modeled Guitar tones. Think of it more like the "Tuner Out / normal PU Pass through " jack

  this is bad news....was really hoping to use the GP-10 like a Variax and output COSM modeled guitar tones into my amp...darn!

-oddguitar

[whippinpost91850]

  this is bad news....was really hoping to use the GP-10 like a Variax and output COSM modeled guitar tones into my amp...darn!

-oddguitar

Agree leaves me out too

[Elantric]

Remember it's a simple procedure to use the GP-10 for COSM Guitar modeling (like a Variax) and simply bypass the Amp /Cab sims and FX and just feed GP-10 outputs to your other FX/Amp chain, Kemper Guitar Input,etc.

[whippinpost91850]

Remember it's a simple procedure to use the GP-10 for COSM Guitar modeling (like a Variax) and simply bypass the Amp /Cab sims and FX and just feed GP-10 outputs to your other FX/Amp chain, Kemper Guitar Input,etc.

Wow Elantric, I must have missed something. I thought it was being reported you couldn't do that.

[Kevin M]

Wow Elantric, I must have missed something. I thought it was being reported you couldn't do that.

Only for the guitar out. For L/R output you can.

[montyrivers]

It honestly looks like an amazing unit.  Lack of midi was bad enough but the confirmation that it is not usb class device still marks it off my list.  So sad. 

[Rhcole]

Woo-hoo! Roland FINALLY gave us the equivalent of a 70's synth in the box! No sarcasm intended by this, I've been waiting a long time!
AND, it has Hold, missed on the Gr-55 for COSM voices.

[BackDAWman]

It honestly looks like an amazing unit.  Lack of midi was bad enough but the confirmation that it is not usb class device still marks it off my list.  So sad. 

+1 here

[polaris20]

Remember it's a simple procedure to use the GP-10 for COSM Guitar modeling (like a Variax) and simply bypass the Amp /Cab sims and FX and just feed GP-10 outputs to your other FX/Amp chain, Kemper Guitar Input,etc.

That's what I plan to do, because unless Boss/Roland has miraculously improved their modeling, I'll still prefer Line 6's.

[Rhcole]

Don't see an option for setting up piezo pickups, although it may be the translation...

[Elantric]

Don't see an option for setting up piezo pickups, although it may be the translation...

Review top of Page 3 of the GP-10 Owners manual


What is important to know - the GP-10 is for Guitars only, No long scale bass GK-3B compatibility mode.

[greekjgg]

Do we know yet if this box will have the new DSP effects built in? The new adaptive distortion pedals that Boss is rolling out and also added to the GT100 with the firmware upgrade?