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Cristoby

#25
Quote from: gumtown on February 19, 2011, 03:01:13 AM
GUITAR MODE AND BASS MODE PATCHES CAN CO-EXIST WITH-IN THE SAME PATCH.  ;D

After mapping the patch data in both guitar and bass modes, the only differences are the Modeling selections and the synth, guitar and bass models.
These occupy different memory addresses within the same patch, so the same patch would have the same PCM, routing and effect settings in both guitar and bass modes.
Guitar mode will only recognise and modify the guiatr section, bass mode will only reconise and modify the bass mode modeling section only, but both these sections are in both bas or guitar mode saved/exported patches.

I need to know if the user patch list is shared between Guitar and Bass modes, or if each mode mantains it's own separate user patch list.  From what I read, the user lists are one per mode. 

gumtown

#26
Quote from: Cristoby on March 13, 2011, 09:13:46 AM
I need to know if the user patch list is shared between Guitar and Bass modes, or if each mode mantains it's own separate user patch list.  From what I read, the user lists are one per mode.
A separate list per mode, the other difference noted betwee guitar mode and bass mode patches are the Assigns Target list is different in regard to the modeling options, making the Bass mode have slightly fewer Assign Target options.
Free "GR-55 FloorBoard" editor software from https://sourceforge.net/projects/grfloorboard/

Cristoby

#27
Thanks.  I went ahead and assumed separate lists and finished the instrument definition file, which I just posted. 

Cristoby

#28
This is the list of bank and program change numbers.  I'm reposting this list here to make it easier to find.

Quote from: Cristoby on April 22, 2011, 01:40:08 PM
Under Guitar Mode:

  • Bank 1

    • CC32 = 0
    • CC0=0
    • PC = 0-127 corresponding to patches USER 01-1 to USER 43-2
  • Bank 2

    • CC32 = 0
    • CC0=1
    • PC = 0-127 corresponding to patches USER 43-3 to USER 86-1
  • Bank 3

    • CC32 = 0
    • CC0=2
    • PC = 0-40 corresponding to patches USER 86-2- to USER 99-3
  • Bank 4

    • CC32 = 0
    • CC0=16
    • PC = 0-127 corresponding to patches LEAD 01-1 to RHYTHM 13-2
  • Bank 5

    • CC32 = 0
    • CC0=17
    • PC = 0-127 corresponding to patches RHYTHM 13-3 to OTHER 26-1
  • Bank 6

    • CC32 = 0
    • CC0=18
    • PC = 0-13 corresponding to patches OTHER 26-2 to OTHER 30-3

Under Bass Mode:

  • Bank 1

    • CC32 = 0
    • CC0=0
    • PC = 0-127 corresponding to patches USER 01-1 to USER 43-2
  • Bank 2

    • CC32 = 0
    • CC0=1
    • PC = 0-127 corresponding to patches USER 43-3 to USER 86-1
  • Bank 3

    • CC32 = 0
    • CC0=2
    • PC = 0-40 corresponding to patches USER 86-3 to USER 99-3
  • Bank 4

    • CC32 = 0
    • CC0=16
    • PC = 0-89 corresponding to patches LEAD 01-1 to OTHER 10-3

That should get you running.

Elantric

#29
Summary of GR-55 Owners Manual E3 "Important Notes:

#1 NOTE! (page 8 )
• To prevent malfunction and/or damage to speakers or other devices, always turn down the volume, and turn off the power on all devices before
making any connections.
• Switch on the power to all of your equipment before you raise the volume of the amp.

#2 NOTE! (page 8 )
The settings you were editing will be lost when the power is turned off. If you want to keep your settings, you must save your settings before
turning the power off.

#3 NOTE! (page 9)
GK settings are extremely important in order to play the GR-55 with the best possible sound. You must be sure to make these settings correctly.

#4 NOTE! (page 54)
For each patch, you can change the operation that occurs when you operate the pedal or operate the GK controls (p. 61). For details on the parameters, refer to "PEDAL/GK CTL" (p. 55). This is available if the SYSTEM parameter "FUNCTION" (p. 76) is set to "PATCH SETTING." (If unavailable, the display will indicate "**[SYSTEM]**".)

#5 NOTE! (page 63)
If you edit the value of a parameter that's assigned to a controller, and then save the patch, some parameters will be overwritten with the initial state of the controller. This will make it seem as though the edited value has not been saved. To avoid this situation, choose the OFF setting for the PEDAL/GK CTL parameter FUNCTION (p. 55, p. 76) and for the ASSIGN parameter SWITCH (p. 57) of the function being assigned.

#6 NOTE! (page 65)
• Never insert or remove a USB memory while this unit's power is
on. Doing so may corrupt the unit's data or the data on the USB
memories.
• Carefully insert the USB memory all the way in-until it is firmly in
place.
• If the GR-55 is connected to your computer via a USB cable, you
won't be able to use USB memory to play audio files.
• Dimensions of USB memory that can be installed: 60 (length: including
connector) x 26 (width) x 13.5 (thickness) mm or smaller

#7 NOTE! (page 66)
Use a USB cable (sold separately) to connect the GR-55 to your computer.
• This might not work correctly for some types of computers. Refer
to the Roland website for details on the operating systems that
are supported.
• Before connecting the GR-55 to other devices, you must minimize
the volume of all devices and turn off their power in order to
prevent malfunctions and speaker damage.
• Use a USB cable that supports USB 2.0 Hi-Speed operation.
• Use a USB connector on your computer that supports USB 2.0
Hi-Speed operation.
• Turn on the GR-55's power before you start up your DAW software
on the computer. Do not turn the GR-55's power on/off while the
DAW software is running.

#8 NOTE! (page 71)
When the power is turned off, any settings you were editing will be lost. You must save settings that you want to keep.

#9 NOTE! (page 72)
This operation will rewrite all of the GR-55's settings. If you've stored important data in the GR-55, be sure to save the data to separate USB memory before you execute this operation.

#10 NOTE! (page 73)
If important data you've created has been stored in the GR-55, be aware that the data you've edited or created will all be lost if you execute a factory reset. If you want to keep this data, you must save it to USB memory (p. 72).

#11 NOTE! (page 73)
If the GR-55 is set to "BASS MODE," it will return to "GUITAR MODE" (p. 9).

Summary of GR-55 Owners Manual "MEMOS":

#1 MEMO  (page 7)
• Be aware that string buzz due to a warped neck or worn frets, or faulty octave adjustment, can cause problems such as wrong notes being produced.
• This unit does not support 7-string guitars/basses or other non-standard guitars/basses. Check the Web for details about installing GK pickups
• On the Roland website, the "GK-3/3B Installation Tips" page provides an explanation and photos on how to attach a GK pickup. Be sure to take a look! http://www.roland.com/GK/



#2 MEMO  (page 9)
If you connect different guitars to the GR-55 at different times, you can individually save settings for each guitar. For details, refer to "Setting the GK Pickups (GK SETTING)" (p. 69).

#3 MEMO  (page 13)
When tuning a guitar that's equipped with a vibrato arm, tuning one string may cause other strings to drift out of tune. In this case, start by tuning each string approximately, so that the correct note name is shown, and then retune each string repeatedly until all strings are tuned correctly.

#4 MEMO  (page 16)
With the factory settings, you can use the GK pickup [S1]/[S2] buttons to switch banks.

#5 MEMO  (page 23)
If you select the "Drums" tone category, there will be fewer editable parameters than those listed in this manual.

#6 MEMO  (page 24)
This screen shows the parameters that are marked by a "#" symbol in the parameter list (p. 25 –). The parameters that you can edit will different for each tone.

#7 MEMO  (page 24)
Edit the parameter settings. Use the cursor buttons to select the tone parameter that you want to edit, and use the dial to edit the value.
This screen shows the parameters that are marked by a "#" symbol in the parameter list (p. 25 –).
The parameters that you can edit will differ for each tone.

#8 MEMO  (page 24)
If you want to adjust the overall volume of the patch, use the cursor
buttons to select the PATCH LEVEL field, and use the dial to edit the
value. Value: 0–200

#9 MEMO  (page 35)
ENV MOD SW - ON - Each time you pluck the string, the VCF cutoff frequency will move from high toward low, producing a "wah" effect. Extremely high cutoff frequency settings will make this effect difficult to discern.

#10 MEMO  (page 35)
ENV MOD SW - INV - Each time you pluck the string, the VCF cutoff frequency will move from low toward high, producing an "oo-ahh" that is the opposite of the "wah" effect. Fairly high cutoff frequency settings will make this effect easier to discern.

#11 MEMO  (page 35)
ENV MOD SENS - 0-100 - Adjusts the input sensitivity of the envelope modulation. Higher settings of this value will increase the range of envelope modulation that occurs when you pluck a string softly.
Listen to how the sound is affected while you adjust this parameter. Start with the setting at about "0," and play while you gradually raise the value. Setting ENV MOD ATTACK to "0" will make it easier to hear the change.

#12 MEMO  (page 36)
PITCH DUET  - DUET - If this is "ON," a sawtooth wave at the same pitch as the original sound will be added to the hexa-VCO, making the sound richer.
By setting the hexa-VCO's pitch shift to a PITCH setting such as +/-12 (an octave up/down), +/- 7 (a perfect fifth), or +/-5 (a perfect fourth), you can create thick, synthesizer-like sounds. By setting PITCH FINE to about "+/-5" to slightly skew the pitch shift of the hexa-VCO, you can give the sound greater depth.

#13 MEMO  (page 36)
PITCH SWEEP SW - Turns the Sweep function on/off.
Normally, you'll use Control Assign to control PITCH SW, and use the control to operate PITCH SW.
The Sweep function is effective when you operate PITCH SW to change the pitch shift amount for the hexa-VCO.
It does not operate on changes that occur in the input pitch while the pitch shift amount is unchanged.
SWEEP RISE and SWEEP FALL have no effect if SWEEP SW is "OFF."

#14 MEMO  (page 36)
VIBRATO SW - Turns the vibrato effect on/off.
If you make Control Assign settings to control VIBRATO SW, you'll be able to add powerful vibrato by turning VIBRATO SW "ON" when desired during your performance. * You can't apply vibrato to the hexa-distortion.

#15 MEMO  (page 39)
Edit the parameters. Use the cursor buttons to select the effect parameter that you want to edit. Use the dial to edit the value. This screen shows the parameters that are marked with a "#" symbol in the parameter list (p. 41 –). The parameters that can be edited will differ depending on the effect.

#16 MEMO  (page 39)
If you want to keep the changes you made, save the patch (p. 60). If you want to adjust the overall volume of the patch, use the cursor buttons to select the PATCH LEVEL field, and use the dial to edit the value. Value: 0–200

#17 MEMO  (page 54)
The GUITAR OUT jack can output the normal pickup sound and the sound of the modeling tone.
For example, you can make settings so that the normal pickup sound and the modeling tone sound will be played through a guitar amp, while the other synthesizer sounds will be played through the PA system connected to the OUTPUT jacks. For details, refer to System settings "GUITAR OUT Jack Settings (GUITAR OUT)" (p. 70).
For details on the parameters, refer to "GUITAR OUT" (p. 59). If the SYSTEM setting GUITAR OUT (p. 80) is set to anything other than "PATCH," this setting is ignored.

#18 MEMO  (page 61)
Switch delay on/off by pressing the [CTL] pedal
Make the following parameter settings.
• SYSTEM  - PEDAL/GK CTL
Tab Parameter  Value       Page
CTL FUNCTION DELAY SW p. 76
You should first raise the "EFFECT LEVEL" (p. 52) setting for DELAY.

#19 MEMO  (page 65)
USB Memory Stick Playback - Press the [ENTER] button once again to start playback.
During playback, you can use the PAGE [ ] [ ] buttons to rewind or fast-forward.

#20 MEMO  (page 71)
Changing the Output Sound from the GUITAR OUT Jack for Each Patch
1. Set the system parameter GUITAR OUT–SOURCE (p. 80) to "PATCH."
For details on setting the system parameters, refer to "Settings for the Entire GR-55 (SYSTEM)" (p. 69).
2. Set the master parameter GUITAR OUT–SOURCE (p. 59) to the setting you want to use.
For details on editing the master parameters, refer to "Patch Settings
(MASTER)" (p. 54).

• The setting of the GUITAR OUT jack does not affect the output from the OUTPUT jacks.
If you don't want the output from the GUITAR OUT jack to be included in the sound that's output from the OUTPUT jacks, you must separately set each of the patch's tone settings to "OFF."
• If the GUITAR OUT–SOURCE setting is "BOTH," the normal pickup sound and the modeling tone sound will be mixed and output.
• The OUTPUT SELECT (p. 70) setting does not apply to the sound that's output from the GUITAR OUT jack.

#21 MEMO  (page 74)
PICKUP PHASE - Specifies the phase of the divided pickup and the guitar's normal pickup.
Set this to "NORMAL," and if the low-frequency range is cut, change it to the "INVERSE" setting.
The phase will be easier to detect if the divided pickup sound is mixed with the normal pickup sound.


kcguitar

I can't get any of the links to the manuals to open. I keep getting an error message:
"There was an error opening this document, Bad encrypt dictionary"
I someone has a copy that opens properly, please email it to me?

Thanks!

gumtown

#31
Quote from:  kcguitar on June 19, 2011, 09:21:37 PM
I can't get any of the links to the manuals to open. I keep getting an error message:
"There was an error opening this document, Bad encrypt dictionary"
I someone has a copy that opens properly, please email it to me?

Thanks!

At 28Mb the User manual file is a bit large to email, but it does download and open for me.
It is a PDF document, so make sure you have the latest Adobe Reader installed.
http://get.adobe.com/reader/


http://www.roland.com/support/by_product/gr-55/owners_manuals/
Free "GR-55 FloorBoard" editor software from https://sourceforge.net/projects/grfloorboard/

Elantric

#32
GR-55 Release Notes:

Documentation for Downloaded Patches

A Tutorial for using the GR-55 Librarian to load and back up GR-55 Patches.

curteye

#33
Aloha guys..

I am new here on the forum  (just got a 55) so I hope I am posting this question in the right place.

In the PCM tones list some instruments have lil letter after their names like:

011 Piano 1 w
or
101 Harpsi w
or
102  Harpsi o

I think I can figure out things like 'Trm' or 'Pf' or 'Whirly' but I am stumped
by the others.

Can anyone help? I have searched all thru the manual and nada.

Sending much Aloha and Mahalo.
{'-'}

BTW
Been a Roland guitar MIDIot since 1990 (GR-50)


If yer gear ain't breakin' down, you ain't workin' much.

admin

#34
Summary of GR-55 Owners Manual E3 "Important Notes:

#1 NOTE! (page 8 )
• To prevent malfunction and/or damage to speakers or other devices, always turn down the volume, and turn off the power on all devices before
making any connections.
• Switch on the power to all of your equipment before you raise the volume of the amp.

#2 NOTE! (page 8 )
The settings you were editing will be lost when the power is turned off. If you want to keep your settings, you must save your settings before
turning the power off.

#3 NOTE! (page 9)
GK settings are extremely important in order to play the GR-55 with the best possible sound. You must be sure to make these settings correctly.

#4 NOTE! (page 54)
For each patch, you can change the operation that occurs when you operate the pedal or operate the GK controls (p. 61). For details on the parameters, refer to "PEDAL/GK CTL" (p. 55). This is available if the SYSTEM parameter "FUNCTION" (p. 76) is set to "PATCH SETTING." (If unavailable, the display will indicate "**[SYSTEM]**".)

#5 NOTE! (page 63)
If you edit the value of a parameter that's assigned to a controller, and then save the patch, some parameters will be overwritten with the initial state of the controller. This will make it seem as though the edited value has not been saved. To avoid this situation, choose the OFF setting for the PEDAL/GK CTL parameter FUNCTION (p. 55, p. 76) and for the ASSIGN parameter SWITCH (p. 57) of the function being assigned.

#6 NOTE! (page 65)
• Never insert or remove a USB memory while this unit's power is
on. Doing so may corrupt the unit's data or the data on the USB
memories.
• Carefully insert the USB memory all the way in-until it is firmly in
place.
• If the GR-55 is connected to your computer via a USB cable, you
won't be able to use USB memory to play audio files.
• Dimensions of USB memory that can be installed: 60 (length: including
connector) x 26 (width) x 13.5 (thickness) mm or smaller

#7 NOTE! (page 66)
Use a USB cable (sold separately) to connect the GR-55 to your computer.
• This might not work correctly for some types of computers. Refer
to the Roland website for details on the operating systems that
are supported.
• Before connecting the GR-55 to other devices, you must minimize
the volume of all devices and turn off their power in order to
prevent malfunctions and speaker damage.
• Use a USB cable that supports USB 2.0 Hi-Speed operation.
• Use a USB connector on your computer that supports USB 2.0
Hi-Speed operation.
• Turn on the GR-55's power before you start up your DAW software
on the computer. Do not turn the GR-55's power on/off while the
DAW software is running.

#8 NOTE! (page 71)
When the power is turned off, any settings you were editing will be lost. You must save settings that you want to keep.

#9 NOTE! (page 72)
This operation will rewrite all of the GR-55's settings. If you've stored important data in the GR-55, be sure to save the data to separate USB memory before you execute this operation.

#10 NOTE! (page 73)
If important data you've created has been stored in the GR-55, be aware that the data you've edited or created will all be lost if you execute a factory reset. If you want to keep this data, you must save it to USB memory (p. 72).

#11 NOTE! (page 73)
If the GR-55 is set to "BASS MODE," it will return to "GUITAR MODE" (p. 9).

Summary of GR-55 Owners Manual "MEMOS":

#1 MEMO  (page 7)
• Be aware that string buzz due to a warped neck or worn frets, or faulty octave adjustment, can cause problems such as wrong notes being produced.
• This unit does not support 7-string guitars/basses or other non-standard guitars/basses. Check the Web for details about installing GK pickups
• On the Roland website, the "GK-3/3B Installation Tips" page provides an explanation and photos on how to attach a GK pickup. Be sure to take a look! http://www.roland.com/GK/



#2 MEMO  (page 9)
If you connect different guitars to the GR-55 at different times, you can individually save settings for each guitar. For details, refer to "Setting the GK Pickups (GK SETTING)" (p. 69).

#3 MEMO  (page 13)
When tuning a guitar that's equipped with a vibrato arm, tuning one string may cause other strings to drift out of tune. In this case, start by tuning each string approximately, so that the correct note name is shown, and then retune each string repeatedly until all strings are tuned correctly.

#4 MEMO  (page 16)
With the factory settings, you can use the GK pickup [S1]/[S2] buttons to switch banks.

#5 MEMO  (page 23)
If you select the "Drums" tone category, there will be fewer editable parameters than those listed in this manual.

#6 MEMO  (page 24)
This screen shows the parameters that are marked by a "#" symbol in the parameter list (p. 25 –). The parameters that you can edit will different for each tone.

#7 MEMO  (page 24)
Edit the parameter settings. Use the cursor buttons to select the tone parameter that you want to edit, and use the dial to edit the value.
This screen shows the parameters that are marked by a "#" symbol in the parameter list (p. 25 –).
The parameters that you can edit will differ for each tone.

#8 MEMO  (page 24)
If you want to adjust the overall volume of the patch, use the cursor
buttons to select the PATCH LEVEL field, and use the dial to edit the
value. Value: 0–200

#9 MEMO  (page 35)
ENV MOD SW - ON - Each time you pluck the string, the VCF cutoff frequency will move from high toward low, producing a "wah" effect. Extremely high cutoff frequency settings will make this effect difficult to discern.

#10 MEMO  (page 35)
ENV MOD SW - INV - Each time you pluck the string, the VCF cutoff frequency will move from low toward high, producing an "oo-ahh" that is the opposite of the "wah" effect. Fairly high cutoff frequency settings will make this effect easier to discern.

#11 MEMO  (page 35)
ENV MOD SENS - 0-100 - Adjusts the input sensitivity of the envelope modulation. Higher settings of this value will increase the range of envelope modulation that occurs when you pluck a string softly.
Listen to how the sound is affected while you adjust this parameter. Start with the setting at about "0," and play while you gradually raise the value. Setting ENV MOD ATTACK to "0" will make it easier to hear the change.

#12 MEMO  (page 36)
PITCH DUET  - DUET - If this is "ON," a sawtooth wave at the same pitch as the original sound will be added to the hexa-VCO, making the sound richer.
By setting the hexa-VCO's pitch shift to a PITCH setting such as +/-12 (an octave up/down), +/- 7 (a perfect fifth), or +/-5 (a perfect fourth), you can create thick, synthesizer-like sounds. By setting PITCH FINE to about "+/-5" to slightly skew the pitch shift of the hexa-VCO, you can give the sound greater depth.

#13 MEMO  (page 36)
PITCH SWEEP SW - Turns the Sweep function on/off.
Normally, you'll use Control Assign to control PITCH SW, and use the control to operate PITCH SW.
The Sweep function is effective when you operate PITCH SW to change the pitch shift amount for the hexa-VCO.
It does not operate on changes that occur in the input pitch while the pitch shift amount is unchanged.
SWEEP RISE and SWEEP FALL have no effect if SWEEP SW is "OFF."

#14 MEMO  (page 36)
VIBRATO SW - Turns the vibrato effect on/off.
If you make Control Assign settings to control VIBRATO SW, you'll be able to add powerful vibrato by turning VIBRATO SW "ON" when desired during your performance. * You can't apply vibrato to the hexa-distortion.

#15 MEMO  (page 39)
Edit the parameters. Use the cursor buttons to select the effect parameter that you want to edit. Use the dial to edit the value. This screen shows the parameters that are marked with a "#" symbol in the parameter list (p. 41 –). The parameters that can be edited will differ depending on the effect.

#16 MEMO  (page 39)
If you want to keep the changes you made, save the patch (p. 60). If you want to adjust the overall volume of the patch, use the cursor buttons to select the PATCH LEVEL field, and use the dial to edit the value. Value: 0–200

#17 MEMO  (page 54)
The GUITAR OUT jack can output the normal pickup sound and the sound of the modeling tone.
For example, you can make settings so that the normal pickup sound and the modeling tone sound will be played through a guitar amp, while the other synthesizer sounds will be played through the PA system connected to the OUTPUT jacks. For details, refer to System settings "GUITAR OUT Jack Settings (GUITAR OUT)" (p. 70).
For details on the parameters, refer to "GUITAR OUT" (p. 59). If the SYSTEM setting GUITAR OUT (p. 80) is set to anything other than "PATCH," this setting is ignored.

#18 MEMO  (page 61)
Switch delay on/off by pressing the [CTL] pedal
Make the following parameter settings.
• SYSTEM  - PEDAL/GK CTL
Tab Parameter  Value       Page
CTL FUNCTION DELAY SW p. 76
You should first raise the "EFFECT LEVEL" (p. 52) setting for DELAY.

#19 MEMO  (page 65)
USB Memory Stick Playback - Press the [ENTER] button once again to start playback.
During playback, you can use the PAGE [ ] [ ] buttons to rewind or fast-forward.

#20 MEMO  (page 71)
Changing the Output Sound from the GUITAR OUT Jack for Each Patch
1. Set the system parameter GUITAR OUT–SOURCE (p. 80) to "PATCH."
For details on setting the system parameters, refer to "Settings for the Entire GR-55 (SYSTEM)" (p. 69).
2. Set the master parameter GUITAR OUT–SOURCE (p. 59) to the setting you want to use.
For details on editing the master parameters, refer to "Patch Settings
(MASTER)" (p. 54).

• The setting of the GUITAR OUT jack does not affect the output from the OUTPUT jacks.
If you don't want the output from the GUITAR OUT jack to be included in the sound that's output from the OUTPUT jacks, you must separately set each of the patch's tone settings to "OFF."
• If the GUITAR OUT–SOURCE setting is "BOTH," the normal pickup sound and the modeling tone sound will be mixed and output.
• The OUTPUT SELECT (p. 70) setting does not apply to the sound that's output from the GUITAR OUT jack.

#21 MEMO  (page 74)
PICKUP PHASE - Specifies the phase of the divided pickup and the guitar's normal pickup.
Set this to "NORMAL," and if the low-frequency range is cut, change it to the "INVERSE" setting.
The phase will be easier to detect if the divided pickup sound is mixed with the normal pickup sound.


croonbush

Quote from: gumtown on February 18, 2011, 12:48:38 AM
Oh !! THE IRONY OF CONTROLLING THE GR-55 AUDIO PLAYER VIA USB  :-\

Yes even the Audio Player can be controlled remotely via midi system exclusive command, but here is the catch, the Audio Player USB PORT can't work at the same time the USB backpanel port (audio/midi stream).
I have had to resort to using an external midi adapter via the GR-55 '5 pin' midi ports to control the Audio Player. :o

But that does mean the all the GR-55 parameters are remotely controllable via midi sequencer or editor, except I don't recall seeing any mention of the Looper controls.

Hi gumtown, I would be grateful if you could post at least the parameter addresses of the controls/selectors for the audio player so I can control it remotely via sysex...I've found nothing else ANYWHERE about this!  Surely we aren't the only two...

cheers,

Elantric

Quote.  Hi gumtown, I would be grateful if you could post at least the parameter addresses of the controls/selectors for the audio player so I can control it remotely via sysex...I've found nothing else ANYWHERE about this! Surely we aren't the only two...   

+1

mbenigni

Quote from: croonbush on June 26, 2012, 11:13:19 PM
Hi gumtown, I would be grateful if you could post at least the parameter addresses of the controls/selectors for the audio player so I can control it remotely via sysex...I've found nothing else ANYWHERE about this!  Surely we aren't the only two...

cheers,

If this is a possibility (I had written off the Audio Player as being as inaccessible as the Looper) then I can drop some controls on the TouchOSC template to pull up backing tracks alongside patch navigation. That would be really cool!

Elantric

#38
Quoteand here is a link to the source code section
http://grfloorboard.svn.sourceforge.net/viewvc/grfloorboard/

The GR-55 parameter changes should respond to system exclusive data, the same as other Boss/Roland midi equipment.

croonbush

the midi.xml file in the source code for is very enlightening and will be of use for other sysx messages, however since the GR-55 editor doesn't control the audio player (other than mapping a control for it) there is no direct parameter address information that I can see, unless I should be looking elsewhere, but the xml file seems to "address" every other parameter.

gumtown

#40
I read this yesterday and finally found the post again (thanks to the forum search).

I can't remember what i was faf'n around with 15 months ago for the File Player,
the only control with direct midi access is the Player level.

I think this may be possible, send sysex data to change the CTL pedal function..
F0 41 10 00 00 53 12 18 00 00 12 0D 49 F7 = Set CTL pedal function to 'File Player Sw'.
F0 41 10 00 00 53 12 18 00 00 11 01 56 F7 = Toggle CTL pedal "on".
F0 41 10 00 00 53 12 18 00 00 11 00 57 F7 = Toggle CTL pedal "off".
F0 41 10 00 00 53 12 18 00 00 12 0B 4B F7 = Set CTL pedal function to 'Player Song Increment'.
F0 41 10 00 00 53 12 18 00 00 12 0C 4A F7 = Set CTL pedal function to 'Player Song Decrement'.
F0 41 10 00 00 53 12 18 00 00 12 09 4D F7 = Set CTL pedal function to 'Player Start/Stop'.

You could try sending a combination of the above messages, for example, to enable the player..
F0 41 10 00 00 53 12 18 00 00 11 00 57 F7 = Toggle CTL pedal "off".
F0 41 10 00 00 53 12 18 00 00 12 0D 49 F7 = Set CTL pedal function to 'File Player Sw'.
F0 41 10 00 00 53 12 18 00 00 11 01 56 F7 = Toggle CTL pedal "on".

or to play the current song..
F0 41 10 00 00 53 12 18 00 00 11 00 57 F7 = Toggle CTL pedal "off".
F0 41 10 00 00 53 12 18 00 00 12 09 4D F7 = Set CTL pedal function to 'Player Start/Stop'.
F0 41 10 00 00 53 12 18 00 00 11 01 56 F7 = Toggle CTL pedal "on".

Same for the EXP pedal sw and the GK S1/S2 button control too.
I'm not sure if this works (or not), but it looks feasible in theory.
My GR-55 is packed somewhere in the pile of gear for a gig this weekend,
so i can't try this out myself until i find my GR-55.


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and FWIW

QuoteI know than F0 and F7 starts and ends the each HEX line program, but plz ,i wish know, what each pair of numbers means between F0 and F7.
tnx...
F0 41 10 00 00 53 12 01 00 00 00 00 00 7F F7 = U01:1
F0 41 10 00 00 53 12 01 00 00 00 02 28 55 F7 = U97:3
Using this example
F0 = sysex message start
41 = Roland product code
10 = unit ID number (fixed to unit 16 in the GR-55)
00 00 53 = is a GR-55
12 = data sending, 11 = request data
01 00 00 00 = address of GR-55 System current patch (written on patch change)
02 28 = value for U97:3, 00 00 = U01:1
55 = sysex message CRC checksum
F7 = end of sysex message

Free "GR-55 FloorBoard" editor software from https://sourceforge.net/projects/grfloorboard/

tekrytor

+2, excellent thread!
Thanks for sharing the knowledge and data folks!
It would be very fine if Roland finally published a complete midi spec for the GR-55, with the pending update.
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croonbush

thanks gumtown!  yes i agree from what I could see only the audio player level has an actual address, I thought there may have been direct addresses to the other controls, but I'll try what you've suggested and let you know how I go, might be a few days though..again thanks for your reply!

Elantric

#43
The new GR-55 Owners Manual (E04 = English "version 4" April 5, 2012 )  is here:

It includes the Rev 1.50 Patch list.

http://lib.roland.co.jp/support/en/manuals/res/59105308/GR-55_e04_W.pdf

New Rev 1.50 patch List is attached

croonbush

well i've tried controlling the GR-55 audio player via sysx and while it's technically possible, it's would take a very special midi controller to achieve it...basically it's not feasible without using a computer, which pretty much eliminates the need for the audio player.  The midi controller would have to send multiple sysx messages assigned to one button...and due to the limited assign options for the audio player you would probably have to mess with your controller assignments so much that your patch would be neutered controlwise...but even then there's no way to access files directly, you would still have to step through the files til you got to the one you wanted.  I've tried this with a Novation Zero SLMKII (advanced mode), and while individual sysx messages worked fine (even toggling values worked ok), reassigning the same switch or control with a new parameter, then activating the switch or control via sysx is totally inefficient.  The main problem lies in that the audio player controls can't be assigned to anything but CTL, EXP SW and S1 and S2.  In any patch those controllers are already being used for something else, so to reassign them on the fly via sysx, while possible (thanks to gumtown for the sysx strings to get me going), is way too clunky a solution.  this hasn't been addressed at all in v 1.50..ah well, maybe v2.0?

Elantric

Thanks croonbush for the update on your pursuits with these GR-55 sysex commands.

croonbush

The only way I can see to do it without a computer on a gig would be using a Midi Solutions Event Processor - on receiving a CC from your midi controller it can send the required sysx messages to the GR-55 (multiple strings in one event), however they're about $150 (certainly a handy device to have though).  I think that's the best option, although you still don't have direct access to individual wavs, but I guess I'm expecting the GR to behave like a sampler, which it clearly isn't.  :)

gumtown

What's wrong with having the GR-55 on the floor and using the pedals on it to control the Audio Player?
Are you setting up for a fully automated midi controlled show?
The GR-55 File Player song selection can only be made by cursor left/previous or cursor right/next.
I have my sounds and samples with a numerical prefix to the file name so they play in order of the setlist.
If your sounds are que'd in order, you only need them to play, as the player stops when the current sound file has finished playing and que's the next sound ready for a play command.

That is about the best you can expect from the rather basic file player in the GR-55.
Free "GR-55 FloorBoard" editor software from https://sourceforge.net/projects/grfloorboard/

Elantric

GR-55 Help PDF - courtesy of  tekrytor - Work in Progress July 17, 2012
(see attached)
This is a PDF version of the same Help HTML document included in Gumtown's GR-55 FloorBoard Editing Application.

tekrytor

...It's based on the July 12 beta version of the FloorBoard. I'll update it as the software changes, or try to keep up at least.
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