Test your hearing

Started by germanicus, August 06, 2012, 02:48:52 PM

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germanicus

I was shocked to learn how much damage I probably have in terms of reduced frequency range from this test.

http://www.noiseaddicts.com/2009/03/can-you-hear-this-hearing-test/

Im 37, so I know this contributes, but I cant hear anything on this test at 14k and up.
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Elantric

Its typical for adults to loose high frequencies.

I'm 57 and I admit i cant hear much above 12KHz

http://www.neuroreille.com/promenade/english/audiometry/audiometry.htm


Bill Ruppert

#2
Well dont forget the info up there at 15-16-17K is more painfull than musical.
it also depends on your monitors, some do not do a good job up there.
If you crank your monitors up I bet you feel sick.
Some of them really make me ill.
AND I am 58!

gumbo

Thanks for contributing to my depression, Folks.. :P

I'm 64 and 12KHz is the max...
...I knew it was bad, but.. :'(

....I guess I've just got to get a bigger amp after all..that fixes it, doesn't it???
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Kevin M

Too hard to tell...the constant ringing in my ears is pretty loud, after all!  :-)

Kenmac

When I was playing these tones yesterday (especially the higher end ones) my cat Samson wandered in, sat beside my chair and put his paw on it then looked up at me as if to say, "Please stop doing this."  :) Needless to say, I did.
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billbax

#6
On my HD650 senheiser's, I'm about 13kHz.  Not bad for a 52 year old.  Owning a lot of audio test equipment since the mid 80's, I have periodically swept my high frequency hearing response.  At the tender age of 29 I could hear 15.6kHz.  I remember testing my nephew, aged 12 at the time, and he could sense 19k!

I'm also experiencing mild tinnitus in both ears, although more in my right ear. It's all part of playing of playing rock guitar for 40 years.

Bill




montyrivers

23 y/o here.  Could just barely hear 19k.  I'm sure that will change one day.

gumtown

Haven't had a hearing test for over 12 years, back then it wasn't that great, a 3dB dip in the lower mids as typical from industrial noise pollution (and loud drummers).
Which does lead me to wonder about PA setups and sound checks as to weather i am blasting everyones ears with HF at gigs, and do i need to compensate my F.O.H mix'es for my hearing loss.
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Now_And_Then


Isn't the 6khz range from 14k to 20k equal to about 3 (not musically useful) semitones or so? I once figured it out but forgot.

musicman65

Quote from: Now_And_Then on August 08, 2012, 05:10:24 PM
Isn't the 6khz range from 14k to 20k equal to about 3 (not musically useful) semitones or so? I once figured it out but forgot.

You may think its not musically useful and it is only 1 octave from 10k to 20k, but for those of us that still hear the upper freqs, it makes a huge difference when mixed properly.

i am 46 and still hear up to 16.5k...but I'm blind as a bat! lol. My son is 19 and hears 20k.

If you have a smartphone, get one of the freq gen apps and have some fun. I cranked up 17k at a crowded restaurant when eating with my son. Every kid in the room turned and looked! "Dad, shut it off!" my son said. Not a single older person noticed. LOL!

Btw, the kids use hi-freq ringtones in school so the teachers cant hear them.

bd



gumbo

Quote from: gumtown on August 08, 2012, 01:20:36 PM
Which does lead me to wonder about PA setups and sound checks as to weather i am blasting everyones ears with HF at gigs, and do i need to compensate my F.O.H mix'es for my hearing loss.


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tekrytor

57 here. Would you all squeak deeper please? I cannot hear you....14k and demolishing.
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aliensporebomb

I'm in the middle of the worst cold I've probably ever had and both ears are so plugged I think my top end is around 5000k - just miserable.  I'll try the test when I'm feeling better.
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pasha811

46 years old here, injured by a high volume bass guitar solo since 16...
I have a constant whistle in both ears that covers the 10K test.
If I pump up the volume I can hear but not beyond 11K I guess (12K is gone actually).

However, this is the freq spectrum of music:



I am personally loosing very high overtones so the sense of openness I guess is gone...
But I can still enjoy music and my VG99.

The chart above is also interactive but you need to access it directl to more info:
http://www.independentrecording.net/irn/resources/freqchart/main_display.htm

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grip

Hello,

Am I turning into a bat? Using the test in post #1 I can hear every frequency up to the 22kHz with the exception of 19kHz, and I'm 64 years old - suffering with tinnitus from playing loud for too many years.

Kind regards

papabuss

Quote from: Elantric on August 06, 2012, 03:32:22 PM
Its typical for adults to loose high frequencies.

I'm 57 and I admit i cant hear much above 12KHz

http://www.neuroreille.com/promenade/english/audiometry/audiometry.htm


Yepp....same to me Elantric and I'm two months older than you. But I'm convinced we are very good musicians. :)

Hearing test link from Germanicus:
http://www.noiseaddicts.com/2009/03/can-you-hear-this-hearing-test/

Perhaps some more (also younger members ;)) could post their experience to the forum.
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musicman65

If your headphones or monitors are crap, a hearing test won't work. If you are 64 and hearing 22k, you are hearing sub-harmonics of the fundamental freqs.

grip

Quote from: musicman65 on October 16, 2012, 07:01:32 AM
If your headphones or monitors are crap, a hearing test won't work. If you are 64 and hearing 22k, you are hearing sub-harmonics of the fundamental freqs.

Hello musicman,

You are spot on with your diagnosis, thanks, I tried the test again through my monitors (I used wireless headphones previously) and could hear up to and including 15kHz. It's a relief that I no longer have to sleep during the day hanging upside down in a cold damp cave  ;D

Kind regards

musicman65

I've had wireless headphones create some weird digital artifacts before. Mine were ok for casual listenibg only. No telling what 22k at high volume would yield!

Could drive you "batty"... :)

kloniwotski

51 here.. If I crank it up I can hear 15Khz and persuade myself that I can imagine hearing 16, but no further than that, except for definitely lower subharmonics.

I find it hard to even conceive of a note higher than the 16Khz one.. I try and "go up an octave" in my imagination, but when I do, there's nothing there!

Oddly, at 22, my mixer doesn't register the sound either - the meter doesn't move. I suppose it is pretty near to Nyquist on my 48Khz sound card. Or maybe the mixer is getting a bit old too :)

Frank

This one is probably a bit more objective as it is based on equal loudness (although it only goes up to 16k).

p.s. be sure to follow the instructions.

http://www.phys.unsw.edu.au/jw/hearing.html

DaddyRabbit

Quote from: musicman65 on October 16, 2012, 07:01:32 AM
If your headphones or monitors are crap, a hearing test won't work. If you are 64 and hearing 22k, you are hearing sub-harmonics of the fundamental freqs.

Agreed, after 15k I heard "something" but it was all the same and my tinitus garbled it... @51 I am at 15k then no difference.
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musicman65

Also, this test reveals the response curve of both your ear and headphones/monitors. I tried different headphones and found different results in perceived loudness.

bd

Frank

Quote from: musicman65 on November 26, 2012, 09:52:03 AM
Also, this test reveals the response curve of both your ear and headphones/monitors. I tried different headphones and found different results in perceived loudness.

bd

Are your headphones different impedences, are the frequency responses the same, are the designs the same i.e. enclosed versus in ear bud types? Lots of variables here that you would expect to produce different results.
Plus there is always the standard deviation that audiologists refer to as a means to explain why hearing tests often produce differing results even using the same equipment.