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Offline Elantric

Re: Roland /Boss USB Drivers - Get latest Status
« Reply #50 on: April 20, 2017, 01:01:25 PM »
https://www.boss.info/global/support/support_news/201701141432/

ANNOUNCING THE RELEASE OF "LEGACY PRODUCT INFORMATION"
Thank you sincerely for using products from Roland.

In response to wide demand, we have released owner's manuals, drivers, updaters, and more data for legacy products as "Legacy Product Information."

From "Legacy Product Information" on the SUPPORT page, you can proceed to the corresponding page for the product you're using. Releases for Roland, BOSS, and ProAV products are also available at the same page.

It is our hope that this not only lets you find out about how to operate the products that have enjoyed many years of use, but is also of assistance in music production.

We hope that you will continue to enjoy using products from Roland.



https://www.roland.com/global/support/archives/archive_manuals_a-g/

https://www.roland.com/global/support/archives/archive_manuals_h-m/

https://www.roland.com/global/support/archives/archive_manuals_n-s/

https://www.roland.com/global/support/archives/archive_manuals_t-z/

https://www.roland.com/global/support/archives/archive_downloads_a-g/

https://www.roland.com/global/support/archives/archive_downloads_h-m/

https://www.roland.com/global/support/archives/archive_downloads_n-s/

https://www.roland.com/global/support/archives/archive_downloads_t-z/


 
« Last Edit: April 20, 2017, 01:04:03 PM by Elantric »

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Re: Roland /Boss USB Drivers - Get latest Status
« Reply #51 on: April 27, 2017, 08:28:05 AM »
All downloads for ALL versions of Boss Tone Studio for Windows temporarily halted

Currently it is not capable to install the application for Windows to some PC environments.
We are stopping to provide it.
Thank you for your kind cooperation and understanding in advance.
 


This applies to all these BTS versions

If you are musician - stay far far away from Windows 10 creator's update!

BTS for ME-25 (WIN)
https://www.boss.info/global/support/by_product/me-25/updates_drivers/5b1f080a-7f69-4b99-82a7-de884db13fc2/

BTS for ME-80 (WIN)
https://www.boss.info/global/support/by_product/me-80/updates_drivers/029526c3-6be2-46ee-83f5-f08be45a17f9/

BTS for GT-1 (WIN)
https://www.boss.info/global/support/by_product/gt-1/updates_drivers/e4aacf0a-edf3-4f59-8cb1-4ad918568767/

BTS for GT-100 (WIN)
https://www.boss.info/global/support/by_product/gt-100/updates_drivers/e3f75e9c-179d-4742-81b3-93e968963876/

BTS for GP-10 (WIN))
https://www.boss.info/global/support/by_product/gp-10/updates_drivers/d02c1a00-8ce2-431c-bd60-49aee8ee1eb4/

BTS for Katana (WIN))
https://www.boss.info/global/support/by_product/katana-head/updates_drivers/0143296a-ed7b-4530-8774-bc3be46901f9/

« Last Edit: April 27, 2017, 10:52:18 AM by Elantric »

Offline sec6

Re: Roland /Boss USB Drivers - Get latest Status
« Reply #52 on: April 27, 2017, 08:39:17 AM »
All downloads for ALL versions of Boss Tone Studio for Windows temporarily halted

Currently it is not capable to install the application for Windows to some PC environments.
We are stopping to provide it.
Thank you for your kind cooperation and understanding in advance.
 


This applies to all these BTS versions


Thanks for letting us know.  Tried to install GP-10 tonestudio last night on a fresh windows 10 install and got an error.  Using gumtown's GP-10 floorboard editor instead:
https://sourceforge.net/projects/grfloorboard/files/GP-10/
« Last Edit: April 27, 2017, 08:42:02 AM by sec6 »

Offline Elantric

Re: Roland /Boss USB Drivers - Get latest Status
« Reply #53 on: April 27, 2017, 08:45:10 AM »
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All downloads for ALL versions of Boss Tone Studio for Windows temporarily halted

I figure this is a reaction from the global customer service reports of difficulties with Boss Tone studio and Adobe AIR, and Microsoft's agenda to promote  / give OS preference their own tools (MS Silverlight vs Adobe AIR)

I know a few small companies that went bankrupt simply attempting to maintain support for their GUI Editors. Its a major cost burden.

But I wonder if Roland Customer Service ever followed my Boss Tone Studio Installation guide ?

 Boss Tone Studio Installation (debug Application Certificate conflict)
http://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=19401.msg138923#msg138923


EDIT : Failure of BTS to install on Windows has been traced back to a stale SSL Certificate in the BTS installer
« Last Edit: May 09, 2017, 12:38:48 PM by Elantric »

Offline sec6

Re: Roland /Boss USB Drivers - Get latest Status
« Reply #54 on: April 27, 2017, 08:55:00 AM »
I figure this is a reaction from the global customer service reports of difficulties with Boss Tone studio and Adobe AIR, and Microsoft's agenda to promote  / give OS preference their own tools (MS Silverlight vs Adobe AIR)

I know a few small companies that went bankrupt simply attempting to maintain support for their GUI Editors. Its a major cost burden.

But I wonder if Roland Customer Service ever followed my Boss Tone Studio Installation guide ?
 

 Boss Tone Studio Installation (debug Application Certificate conflict)
http://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=19401.msg138923#msg138923

Followed the order that you mentioned, elantric, but no luck with bts for gp-10.  Out of many bts installs, this is first time I had a problem.  Maybe a problem with Windows 10 creator's update?
« Last Edit: April 27, 2017, 09:20:10 AM by Elantric »

Offline Elantric

Re: Roland /Boss USB Drivers - Get latest Status
« Reply #55 on: April 27, 2017, 08:58:57 AM »
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Maybe a problem with Windows 10 creator's update?

If you are musician - stay far far away from Windows 10 creator's update!

Offline sec6

Re: Roland /Boss USB Drivers - Get latest Status
« Reply #56 on: April 27, 2017, 09:02:11 AM »
If you are musician - stay far far away from Windows 10 creator's update!

Yeah, I posted earlier warning people to stay away. I didn't take my own advice.

Offline Elantric

Re: Roland /Boss USB Drivers - Get latest Status
« Reply #57 on: April 27, 2017, 09:19:18 AM »
Followed the order that you mentioned, elantric, but no luck with bts for gp-10.  Out of many bts installs, this is first time I had a problem


 Boss Tone Studio Installation (debug Application Certificate conflict)
http://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=19401.msg138923#msg138923

Offline sec6

Re: Roland /Boss USB Drivers - Get latest Status
« Reply #58 on: April 27, 2017, 09:40:49 AM »

 Boss Tone Studio Installation (debug Application Certificate conflict)
http://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=19401.msg138923#msg138923

Tried that too, but still gets an error.  Uninstalled GP-10 driver, cleaned registry with ccleaner, installed gp-10 driver, installed air, tried to install bts, but still threw out an error.  No other roland/boss drivers installed except gp-10.

Offline Elantric

Re: Roland /Boss USB Drivers - Get latest Status
« Reply #59 on: April 27, 2017, 09:42:13 AM »
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Tried that too, but still gets an error.  Uninstalled GP-10 driver, cleaned registry with ccleaner, installed gp-10 driver, installed air, tried to install bts, but still threw out an error.  No other roland/boss drivers installed except gp-10.

Are you trying to install BTS on  Windows 10 Creator update?
http://gizmodo.com/microsoft-warns-users-not-to-install-its-latest-windows-1794692878


(What is your specific Windows OS version ?
« Last Edit: April 27, 2017, 10:50:30 AM by Elantric »

Offline sec6

Re: Roland /Boss USB Drivers - Get latest Status
« Reply #60 on: April 27, 2017, 09:55:31 AM »
Are you trying to install BTS on  Windows 10 Creator update?

(What is your specific Windows OS version ?

Yep, Windows 10 64-bit Home Creator's Update version 1703.

Offline Elantric

Re: Roland /Boss USB Drivers - Get latest Status
« Reply #61 on: April 27, 2017, 10:01:41 AM »
Yep, Windows 10 64-bit Home Creator's Update version 1703.

GUMTOWN'S BOSS GP-10EDIT PATCH EDITOR

https://sourceforge.net/projects/grfloorboard/files/GP-10/


Online admsustainiac

Re: Roland /Boss USB Drivers - Get latest Status
« Reply #63 on: April 27, 2017, 02:18:52 PM »
Roland Latin America Links still work

https://www.boss.info/latinamerica/support/by_product/sy-300/updates_drivers/33d31ec8-b335-43b9-998f-815d0b0fe0af/
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All downloads for ALL versions of Boss Tone Studio for Windows temporarily halted

Currently it is not capable to install the application for Windows to some PC environments.
We are stopping to provide it.
Thank you for your kind cooperation and understanding in advance.
 

This applies to all these BTS versions

If you are musician - stay far far away from Windows 10 creator's update!

BTS for ME-25 (WIN)
https://www.boss.info/global/support/by_product/me-25/updates_drivers/5b1f080a-7f69-4b99-82a7-de884db13fc2/

BTS for ME-80 (WIN)
https://www.boss.info/global/support/by_product/me-80/updates_drivers/029526c3-6be2-46ee-83f5-f08be45a17f9/

BTS for GT-1 (WIN)
https://www.boss.info/global/support/by_product/gt-1/updates_drivers/e4aacf0a-edf3-4f59-8cb1-4ad918568767/

BTS for GT-100 (WIN)
https://www.boss.info/global/support/by_product/gt-100/updates_drivers/e3f75e9c-179d-4742-81b3-93e968963876/

BTS for GP-10 (WIN))
https://www.boss.info/global/support/by_product/gp-10/updates_drivers/d02c1a00-8ce2-431c-bd60-49aee8ee1eb4/

BTS for Katana (WIN))
https://www.boss.info/global/support/by_product/katana-head/updates_drivers/0143296a-ed7b-4530-8774-bc3be46901f9/

BTS for GT (WIN) (1.1.3) (GT-100 / GT-001)
https://web.archive.org/web/20170427201146/https://www.boss.info/latinamerica/support/by_product/gt-100/updates_drivers/e3f75e9c-179d-4742-81b3-93e968963876/


BTS for Katana (WIN) (1.0.2)
https://web.archive.org/web/20170427195914/https://www.boss.info/latinamerica/support/by_product/katana-100/updates_drivers/0143296a-ed7b-4530-8774-bc3be46901f9/

BTS for SY-300 (WIN) (1.0.2)
https://web.archive.org/web/20170427201434/https://www.boss.info/latinamerica/support/by_product/sy-300/updates_drivers/a92ace21-3a56-4507-88a7-edd16d565d1e/

BTS for GT-1 (WIN) (1.0.1)
https://web.archive.org/web/20170427202348/https://www.boss.info/latinamerica/support/by_product/gt-1/updates_drivers/e4aacf0a-edf3-4f59-8cb1-4ad918568767/

BTS for GP-10 (WIN) (1.1.1)
https://web.archive.org/web/20170427202458/https://www.boss.info/latinamerica/support/by_product/gp-10/updates_drivers/d02c1a00-8ce2-431c-bd60-49aee8ee1eb4/

BTS for ME-80 (WIN) (1.1.2)
https://web.archive.org/web/20170427202600/https://www.boss.info/latinamerica/support/by_product/me-80/updates_drivers/029526c3-6be2-46ee-83f5-f08be45a17f9/

BTS for ME-25 (WIN) (1.1.2)
https://web.archive.org/web/20170427202825/https://www.boss.info/latinamerica/support/by_product/me-25/updates_drivers/5b1f080a-7f69-4b99-82a7-de884db13fc2/
« Last Edit: April 27, 2017, 02:28:59 PM by admsustainiac »

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Re: Roland /Boss USB Drivers - Get latest Status
« Reply #64 on: May 03, 2017, 09:15:08 PM »

All Boss Tone Studio for Windows download links have been removed while Roland /Boss sort out why recent MS Windows update/Adobe AIR updates present a conflict for the BTS Installer

If you already have BTS installed ,please DO NOT REMOVE IT .

I might take a few months for Roland/Boss to deliver a fix


Meanwhile ,use Gumtown's Floorboard Editor for your device (Katana,GP-10,GT-100,GT-001)
« Last Edit: May 05, 2017, 01:52:52 AM by gumtown »

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Re: Roland /Boss USB Drivers - Get latest Status
« Reply #65 on: May 04, 2017, 07:05:26 AM »

All Boss Tone Studio for Windows download links have been removed while Roland /Boss sort out why recent MS Windows update/Adobe AIR updates present a conflict for the BTS Installer

If you already have HYS installed ,please DO NOT REMOVE IT .

I might take a few months for Roland/Boss to deliver a fix


Meanwhile ,use Gumtown's Floorboard Editor for your device (Katana,GP-10,GT-100,GT-001)
https://www.thegearpage.net/board/index.php?posts/24057971/

To all those having problems installing tone studio. Install Adobe AIR, then Set your date back (a year will do) and then run the Boss Tone Studio installer - this will get it installed and then you can change the date back to the correct date - All Good!
I believe it is probably something like a code signing certificate has expired (or similar) - changing the date gets around whatever check it is performing during the install. Enjoy!
« Last Edit: May 09, 2017, 01:02:30 PM by Elantric »

Offline hippietim

Re: Roland /Boss USB Drivers - Get latest Status
« Reply #66 on: May 09, 2017, 11:50:04 AM »
I figure this is a reaction from the global customer service reports of difficulties with Boss Tone studio and Adobe AIR, and Microsoft's agenda to promote  / give OS preference their own tools (MS Silverlight vs Adobe AIR)

Sorry Steve but that is utter nonsense.  I know first hand that no such agenda exists - particularly not for Silverlight LOL.

I know a few small companies that went bankrupt simply attempting to maintain support for their GUI Editors. Its a major cost burden.

I can't imagine why.  I've written tons of MIDI software for Windows over the years and only one program ever needed to be fixed with a Windows upgrade and it was a stupid bug in my code. 

I do know first hand the crazy stuff that developers do - shortcuts, hacks, etc.  I used to be the development manager on the base OS team that had a good chunk of the app compat work.  We used to encounter 3rd party code that would reach into the stack of a previous call they made to an OS function to grab some local variable - so literally recompiling the code with a different compiler and/or adding another local variable would break the app.  Or 3rd party code that would depend on some random register value that was set to something they thought was interesting - again, just recompiling with a new compiler or altering the implementation in some way would break them.

Or code that passes uninitialized or improperly initialized variables - it can be flags, buffer sizes, memory references, you name it.  So their code would only work if it ran precisely in some pattern and often stuff like this would unwittingly work because the stack used to be zero'd because of the previous implementation or location of some OS function.  So if we rebased a DLL or recompiled or changed the implementation or added stack validation their code breaks.  Switching to address space randomization in Vista broke a bunch of apps that had code that used to get lucky and work.

The Windows driver model has evolved to the point where if a company won't at least recompile and test, they may be broken.  It's really rare that a properly written and signed driver is broken by the OS.  And this is an area where Roland is consistently stupid.  They insist on not supporting standards for their hardware - it doesn't just break on Windows, I've had a nightmare time getting their stuff working on my Macbook Pro as well.  And of course it doesn't work with any other USB MIDI devices.  I don't get it because it is way more work for them and it results in a very poor customer experience.

Offline Elantric

Re: Roland /Boss USB Drivers - Get latest Status
« Reply #67 on: May 09, 2017, 12:29:06 PM »
I know a few small companies that went bankrupt simply attempting to maintain support for their GUI Editors. Its a major cost burden.

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I can't imagine why.  I've written tons of MIDI software

Tell it to these companies who have scaled back their audio interface product offerings or are gone 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_Vision
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aureal_Semiconductor
https://echoaudio.com/pages/pro-audio
https://web.archive.org/web/19990427063531/http://www.sonorus.com/studio.html
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turtle_Beach_Corporation

And Microsoft does have an agenda
http://www.zdnet.com/article/google-chrome-wont-be-allowed-on-windows-10-s/



Regardless - its been 2 weeks and still Roland/Boss has no solution to the stale SSL Certificate that prevents the Boss Tone Studio for Windows installer from working.

And (based on past experience) I expect another 6 weeks before Roland/Boss post a solution. 

So we have a workaround

 https://www.thegearpage.net/board/index.php?posts/24057971/

To all those having problems installing tone studio. Install Adobe AIR, then Set your date back (a year will do) and then run the Boss Tone Studio installer - this will get it installed and then you can change the date back to the correct date - All Good!
I believe it is probably something like a code signing certificate has expired (or similar) - changing the date gets around whatever check it is performing during the install. Enjoy!
« Last Edit: May 10, 2017, 11:51:50 AM by Elantric »

Offline hippietim

Re: Roland /Boss USB Drivers - Get latest Status
« Reply #68 on: May 09, 2017, 01:11:37 PM »
Tell it to these companies who have scaled back their audio interface product offerings or are gone 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Media_Vision
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aureal_Semiconductor
https://echoaudio.com/pages/about-us
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turtle_Beach_Corporation

Seriously?
  • Media Vision was defunct before there was even a viable version of 32-bit Windows.  They've been gone for 22 years!
  • Aureal went under because of legal costs fighting the Sound Blaster folks.  They've been gone for 17 years!
  • Echo Audio - I don't really know what happened to them.  There stuff always supported the latest OS no problem and seldom actually required an update to work. I still have an Echo Mia and it worked fine on Windows 8 - I haven't turned the computer on in a few years so I haven't put Win10 on it.  I moved on to an RME Fireface years ago so I never kept up.  In any case, I seriously doubt they went into OEM licensing because of difficulties maintaining drivers given how good their driver support tended to be.
  • Turtle Beach got their butt kicked buy Creative Labs.  They even conceded that and started making some daughterboards for the Soundblaster at one point - I had one of their boards. Most of their stuff was consumer or on the low-end of Proaudio market.  They eventually stopped making most of those sound cards when people stopped buying sound cards (basically when motherboards started shipping with audio hardware that met the needs of most consumers and gamers).  If Windows were such a burden to them I find it funny that they chose to build their network audio streaming device with Windows CE - I had an AudioTron, it was pretty cool at the time.

Offline hippietim

Re: Roland /Boss USB Drivers - Get latest Status
« Reply #69 on: May 09, 2017, 01:16:53 PM »
Regardless - its been 2 weeks and still Roland/Boss has no solution to the stale SSL Certificate that prevents the Boss Tone Studio for Windows installer from working.

And (based on past experience) I expect another 6 weeks before Roland/Boss post a solution. 

So we have a workaround

 https://www.thegearpage.net/board/index.php?posts/24057971/

To all those having problems installing tone studio. Install Adobe AIR, then Set your date back (a year will do) and then run the Boss Tone Studio installer - this will get it installed and then you can change the date back to the correct date - All Good!
I believe it is probably something like a code signing certificate has expired (or similar) - changing the date gets around whatever check it is performing during the install. Enjoy!


This is just typical poor after-the-sale-support from Roland.  This isn't super difficult stuff, but they have a long tradition of dropping something on the market and then neglecting/abandoning it - in fact, it's worse now than ever.  You'd think that they'd take a cue from the competition but they seem content to just ignore what's going on in the market.

Offline bkarr

Re: Roland /Boss USB Drivers - Get latest Status
« Reply #70 on: May 11, 2017, 07:39:46 PM »
I cannot even find an older version much less a newer one of Tone Studio to try to set my clock back.  I was able to update my GT-100 and got the right drivers.  Does anyone have a version that could be sent?
Thanks.

Offline Elantric

Re: Roland /Boss USB Drivers - Get latest Status
« Reply #71 on: May 11, 2017, 11:00:58 PM »
I cannot even find an older version much less a newer one of Tone Studio to try to set my clock back.  I was able to update my GT-100 and got the right drivers.  Does anyone have a version that could be sent?
Thanks.

BTS for GT-100 for Windows
https://static.roland.com/assets/media/zip/bts_gt_w113.zip

Offline bkarr

Re: Roland /Boss USB Drivers - Get latest Status
« Reply #72 on: May 12, 2017, 05:04:29 AM »
Thanks a lot Elantric.  That did the trick.  I really appreciate it!
Regards,
Bruce

Offline chichi

Re: Roland /Boss USB Drivers - Get latest Status
« Reply #73 on: May 25, 2017, 03:23:51 PM »
I had some issues with my laptop and I had to reset it back to factory. I just installed all Roland WIN10 drivers from all the driver installation software I collected in the past except VG-99. Its driver will be installed automatically from internet the first time you plug it in. I remember VG-99 driver installation has been this way for a long time.

However, I like to collect all offline driver installation software in case the manufacturer no longer support it in the future (e.g., cannot find it from Roland support webpages anymore), or in case I want to install it manually/offline. How do I obtain a copy of VG-99 offline installation software, or create it myself from the installed driver files?

You can simply correct me that my thought is totally unnecessary, but please explain the reason.
« Last Edit: May 25, 2017, 03:29:40 PM by chichi »

Offline Elantric

Re: Roland /Boss USB Drivers - Get latest Status
« Reply #74 on: May 25, 2017, 03:34:54 PM »
AFAIK - there is no VG-99 USB driver for Windows 10 driver available for direct download anywhere
that's the (annoying) way Windows 10 works (Microsoft is responsible for distributing the VG-99 USB driver )

Which means lots of my audio gear is NOT  compatible with Windows 10 


Download and READ the instructions here
https://www.roland.com/us/support/by_product/vg-99/updates_drivers/bdd82dca-92a2-4653-8d42-7888e33dee06/

OR
http://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=15832.0;attach=15970


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Install the driver manually
Depending on the Internet connectivity, the driver may not be installed automatically.
If this is the case, follow the procedure below to install the driver.
1.   Turn on the power of VG-99 and connect it to the computer using a USB cable.
2.   Right-click the start button and then click "Device Manager".
3.   In the View menu, click "Devices by type".
4.   Click "Sound, video and game controllers" or "Other devices" to display the VG-99 device.
5.   When the VG-99 device appears, right-click it, and then select "Update Driver Software".
6.   Select "Search automatically for updated driver software".
Your PC starts searching for the driver, and the driver is installed automatically.
The installation is completed if the "Windows has successfully updated your driver software" message is displayed. Click "Close".



If the "System Settings Change" dialog box appears, click [Yes] to restart Windows.
 
« Last Edit: May 25, 2017, 03:45:32 PM by Elantric »

 

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