LeapMotion

Started by Elantric, June 27, 2012, 11:46:47 AM

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cell7

Quote from: rolandvg99 on August 23, 2013, 06:03:34 AM
@cell7: What hardware are you using it on? Heard rumours that the LeapM uses a lot of resources.

im using it on a 2.6 i7 macbookpro with 8gb ram... so a pretty beasty machine. I have to say, after the initial 'fun' ive been a bit disappointed with the leapmotion and the associated software. Alot of crashes, a chunk of resources. I assume it will improve though.

Elantric

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826525001&clickid=wFF2XP2-63ci0W7Rc2RCUWi6UkT273ypy1YrW80&iradid=97618&ircid=2106&irpid=10531&nm_mc=AFC-IR&cm_mmc=AFC-IR-_-na-_-na-_-na

Newegg has the Leap Motion LM-010 Motion Controller for $80 - 10% off with coupon code MASTERPASS [Exp 12/21] when you check out with Masterpass = $72 with free shipping. Allows interaction with your computer through hand and finger movements and claims to be 200 times more sensitive than existing motion-control technology.

Elantric

Amazon has the Leap Motion LM-C01-AZ Motion Controller (Updated Software) for $80 - 20% off with coupon code TCH20ARC when you check out with an Amazon.com Rewards Visa Card ($30 gift card w/ instant sign-up, pending approval) = $64 with free shipping.

http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/B00HVYBWQO

shawnb

Some musical demos...  Ran into these researching Usine Hollyhock...

Hollyhock is an 'interactive programmable DAW'.  You get a feel for this in the 2nd video below...



Address the process rather than the outcome.  Then, the outcome becomes more likely.   - Fripp

Elantric


mooncaine

Quote from: Kevin M on June 27, 2012, 11:58:46 AM
This might be nice for those of us who suffer occasionally from CTS symptoms.
I've been using one at my desk, just to try things out and see what's possible, esp. what might help me avoid some repetitive motions (cuz in my work, I do a lot of 'em already, so if I can change up or eliminate some common tasks, I'm interested).

I find I pretty much just use it to switch virtual desktops (Mission Control Spaces?) on my Mac. I would have wanted it to be an app switcher, but oddly enough, that's the one thing that doesn't seem to be available on the Mac side: a really good app switcher. There's a great virtual desktop switcher in BetterTouchTool, though, so I use a hand gesture that's unmistakable, and also easy and comfortable. It feels right to reach out and sorta drag the screens left or right to swap spaces.

Using the other gestures feels a bit fiddly or sometimes just silly. They work almost well enough, mostly, but it just feels unnecessary and not so helpful to draw a circle in the air to zoom in, for example, because it's never so precise as the other controls I already have. I can just poke a zoom slider on my keyboard to do that, or Cmd +.

I figure I'll probably gradually add a gesture later on. I sure would like a good app switcher to work with the Leap. I have tried them all so far.

Elantric


mooncaine

Hmm, I hadn't thought to try the Leap with Witch. I think I still have Witch in m prefs, but I haven't used it in a while. I'll take a look.

ZenBalancer

I saw the tech in 2012 or so during its "infancy" and was so enthusiastic for "desktop"-use in contrast to Kinect/2, but the former wasn't yet available back then. And I have recently read about the software issues, but those were posted in 2013. At some point I will experiment with Google Card Board in combination, but that's not my primary use-case.

Now 2,5 years later, it's finally on discounted sale - rare as far as web archive kept track of and I looked at a few captures;
Euro Shop: http://web.archive.org/web/20160701000000*/http://store-eur.leapmotion.com/
US Shop: http://web.archive.org/web/*/http://store-us.leapmotion.com/

https://www.leapmotion.com/ (click Buy for your region store)

It was a total coincidence that I saw this thread, remembered the tech, and then checked the site on the 29th of February no less!

They ship internationally (regular costs I guess) and the sale is until Midnight PST (google: pst time). Currently about 10 hours left.

I just placed my order for 2 dev bundles, to take advantage of the sale (desktop + backup/mobile/"work"), and since the shipping costs for me is almost as expensive as the discounted unit itself.

Edits: fixed links + removed extra attachment + clarity.

Edit2: Kudos for this thread, or I would have not remembered with such a perfect timing!

Edit3: Found the Deal Alert Thread, and thought let me link this there, but everyone was already notified by Elantric : https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=3207.msg124740#msg124740
Well it's now in the history of the interface in this thread as well.

Edit4: yes I see the screenshot like that especially for the USA view is straight to the point, also relevant focused link for musicians. The textual searchability (mostly historic value) part is covered by my post.
Often, I find myself. Wasting time. Splitting hairs. Imagining.
Often, quietly.

Elantric


ZenBalancer

#35
$29 for a single new unti maybe.

http://www.amazon.com/Leap-Motion-Controller-interaction-Packaging/dp/B0176M1GHA/ref=pd_sim_147_4?ie=UTF8&dpID=41pw6H2HByL&dpSrc=sims&preST=_AC_UL160_SR160%2C160_&refRID=0KWGD5EG11AT82GYF623

There are similar prices for new ones to the discount yesterday, and also used ones.

I'm not sure what itteration. It does have 150° horizontal FOV (the vertical on the latest is 120°), just like the latest on the home site. There are other deals and places to buy. I paid about $10 more per unit (no mount in the above) instead of the above deal, before knowing about it, in the end because of over-entheusiasm. Assuming it's the exact same model. I'll post the model they shipped to me for a comparison. But the difference in price isn't too bothering. Now I know at least I can get them cheaper than their home site.

And they link to where else you can buy, that's how I found the above.

https://www.leapmotion.com/where-to-buy

The company offers 3D printer files to print the mounts yourselves. It's somewhere on the faq maybe. One could maybe send the file to a cheap printing service if available.

For delivery to NL the cheapest within Europe (no import taxes) is from Amazon.de atm: http://www.amazon.de/Motion-LM-C01-DE-Gestensteuerung-kabelgebunden-schwarz/dp/B00H45P892/ref=sr_1_2?ie=UTF8&qid=1387818439&sr=8-2&keywords=leap+motion

Amazon.co.uk seller doesn't ship to NL. Often the case with ebayers too.

I basically will pay product import costs of the discounted dev bundle from yesterday, instead of buying the mounts from a printing service. It all mounts to almost the same thing. Except I still feel better about a complete package and dealing with te company directly. It was a good opportunity. Also it's good that alternatives for consierably cheaper prices than their default shop price are available just in case they bringout the support for multiple units simultaniously.

Edits: fixed .de link + corrected content.
Often, I find myself. Wasting time. Splitting hairs. Imagining.
Often, quietly.

ZenBalancer




2 years old article (MARCH 17, 2014), but interesting. Although not an out of the box use-case/combination. Not sure if posted here before.

"Any Surface Can Be a Musical Instrument"
http://blog.leapmotion.com/any-surface-can-be-a-musical-instrument/

It's a different experience than VR in the air. A solid surface in VR should be usable however. And the Contact interaction also.
Such a project is on the side of impressive, rather than an alternative to something, imo. At this loose stage at least.
Often, I find myself. Wasting time. Splitting hairs. Imagining.
Often, quietly.

Elantric


A quick demonstration video of the Leap Motion being used to control fader levels and panning in the KMI K-Mix.

admin

http://cdm.link/2017/07/tool-make-music-leap-motion-gestures-free-vr-next/

This is about as affordable and easy as gestural interaction with music can get. The powerful Geco music controller app pairs with the $80 Leap Motion hand tracking hardware – and now the app is free.

But it could be just the beginning.

For its part, the Leap Motion is now sort of yesterday's news. But the small rectangular box is still a quick-and-easy way to get your computer tracking hand gestures – if you're into that sort of thing. Geert Bevin's Geco app provides the glue between the Leap's sensing capabilities and your music software, allowing the computer to recognize gestures and then convey them as MIDI or OSC messages (among other tricks).

And if for some reason you had a Leap and waited to pick up the app – or if you needed an excuse to give this a play – now the app is free. (Since its release, it's also had some major updates, so it's worth another go even if you tried it before.)



I've played with Geert's app before, and it's fairly impressive. You're always going to be a tough critic of any sort of gestural interaction, because the link between hands and perception is so finely tuned. But the Leap opens up some possibilities – even if you don't really want to wave your hands around for a whole performance, it could add the ability to perform quick shortcuts or control a single parameter. And it's a huge advance in comparison to things like Roland's IR-tracking technology, for instance.

But it's what's coming round the bend that may be most interesting. The reason Geert had to make Geco free at this particular moment is that Leap is killing its app store. (See their blog post on the topic. It's not the most elegant "sunsetting," but then it seems the whole industry had to get over this idea that everyone should create an app store as Apple had.)

Leap are moving on to take the software and hardware smarts of the Leap Motion and start to build it into two new (overlapping) arenas – mobile and VR.

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Right away, in fact, you can use the Leap Motion with Windows and Android VR headsets. (The, erm, sophisticated integration technology there is a "universal adapter" that involves just mounting the Leap Motion to the headset itself – plastic and 3M adhesive.)

The thing is, the Leap Motion is kind of cool when tethered to a computer, but way more interesting when it's set loose. And that's the next step, with something upcoming that Leap is calling the Leap Mobile Platform.

Think virtual reality and augmented reality – battery powered, untethered from a computer, and totally mobile.

For music, this is especially compelling as it opens up the possibility of new experimentation with interfaces. VR and AR have given us the visuals of what that could look like, but that's meaningless without the ability to interact with those worlds.

Geert tells CDM he's working in this direction: "I'll be getting an early version in order to be able to take what I've learned from my GECO and GameWAVE Leap Motion apps and apply this to Mobile Leap Motion with VR and AR," he says. "I'm really interested in the AR part for live performance."

AR is augmented reality – that is, a visualization that you see atop the real world, instead of replacing your vision entirely. AR beats VR onstage, unless you want to shut yourself off from your audience with enormous goggles.

In the meantime, there's no need to wait – you can use Geco right now, provided you can get your hands on a Leap Motion. And with Apple having unveiled its augmented reality solution last month, and a bunch of parties jumping on VR and AR on Windows, Android, and beyond for gaming and other experiences, we'll be watching to see whether musicians find a way to use these technologies in coming months.

http://uwyn.com/geco/

https://developer.leapmotion.com/