EBS/Rockboard/Hosa - Low Profile 1/4" flat patch cables for FX Pedal boards

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EBS Flat Patch Cable Specifications:
Model Number: PCF-28
Conductor: Flexible copper conductor low voltage audio signal system
Operating Temperature: -15ºC to +70°C
Outer Insulation: PVC (Polyvinyl Chloride)
Signal copper cores: 20 x 0.12 mm
Signal Insulation: PE (polyethylene)
Copper Twisted Shield: 32 x 0.12 mm
Capacitance Cond./Shield: < 10 pF/decimeter
Conductor Resistance: < 10 mOhm/decimeter
Dimensions: 7 x 3 mm (rectangular cable)
Connectors: 1/4" 90º angled audio plug


http://www.fullcompass.com/prod/520471-EBS-Flat-Patch-Cable




Elantric

Warwick "RockBoard" low profile  1/4" cables

Description:
The new RockBoard patch cables are extra flat and space-saving. Designed to optimize pedalboard real estate, they feature a slim rectangular body and extra thin angled plugs, to keep your setup tidy and neat looking.

Features:
flat patch cables with rectangular profile
compact and super flat angled plugs
flexible copper conductor 20 x 0.12 mm
twisted copper shielding 34 x 0.12 mm
PE (polyethylene) signal insulation
outer PVC insulation
capacitance of less than 10 pF/decimeters
conductor resistance of less than 10 mOhm/decimeters
angled 6.3 mm mono audio plugs
operating temperature: -15º C to +70° C
outer dimensions cable (W x H): 7 x 3 mm (rectangular)
outer dimensions plugs (W x H): 12.5 x 7.5 mm
black
length: 5 cm (2")[/i]


Elantric


Elantric


admin



Hosa now has Flat Patch cables too

https://hosatech.com/press-release/hosa-announces-flat-guitar-patch-cables/

Buena Park, CA, November 2018 — Hosa Technology, Inc. is pleased to introduce the Hosa Flat Guitar Patch Cable Series. The new cables securely interconnect guitar effects pedals where space is limited.

Guitar players rely on effects pedals to experiment and develop unique sounds. Pedalboards keep these effects organized and in reach while cables are tucked underneath and out of the way. Hosa Flat Guitar Patch Cables are highly flexible and can pass through pedalboard slots with ease. Slender molded connectors make these cables ideal for tight spaces.

Hosa's new patch cables are flexible, lightweight, and flat. Despite their thin profile, solid Hosa construction still lies beneath the jacket. Hosa Flat Guitar Patch Cables feature 24 AWG Oxygen-Free Copper (OFC) conductors for signal clarity and OFC shielding to protect against interference.

Space is always a main concern when it comes to pedalboards. Traditional guitar cable connectors are simply not practical and solder-less patch cables can sacrifice durability to eliminate the connector housing. Hosa's new flat cables sport slim, 7 mm molded housings to save space while maintaining a secure connection.

Guitarists want to take full advantage of their pedalboard. Hosa Flat Guitar Patch Cables provide secure connections without taking up unnecessary space, giving players access to their full arsenal of pedals to craft unique tones.

Hosa Flat Guitar Patch Cables are available now at MSRP's ranging from $6.30 for a single cable to $36.30 for a pack of six.


admin

 there is Hype about the Rockboard patch cables being much lower profile,


in practice the SwitchCraft #228 flat plug (same type used on AudioBlast HQ-1 Cables)
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B075MCRFYZ/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o05_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
has similar low profile and compact design - and is repairable and offers ability to lift / float the Ground Shield connection on one side - important to implement advanced low noise - no ground loops on problem pedal boards

https://www.switchcraft.com/productsummary.aspx?Parent=400
https://www.switchcraft.com/Documents/228_CD.pdf

mooncaine

Thanks, admin, I was wondering about those a few days ago. I have a stupid user question, I'm sure: does the fact that those jack housing are metal mean that i have to avoid them touching each other when everything's hooked up on the pedal board?
Probably doesn't make a difference, but I honestly don't know. Seems to me if they're metal, then if they were touching, that might make unwanted electrical connections. I'm wrong, right? I mean, I'm right about being wrong, right?
See, it's confusing.

gumbo

No Moonie, you were wrong about being right....also, your wrong wasn't right at all..
...but to be truthful, there's nothing wrong with being right wrongly, or for that matter being wrong rightly, right?

It would be wrong to take away people's rights, and in fact that would do nothing to right all the obvious wrongs in the first place..

BUT, rightly or wrongly, it IS your right to be wrong....and confused, right?

...no need to thank me for explaining it for you..     HTH    ...and get a wider pedalboard, right?

Cheers,
Peter

Read slower!!!   ....I'm typing as fast as I can...

admin

Quote from: mooncaine on March 21, 2021, 07:47:39 PM
Thanks, admin, I was wondering about those a few days ago. I have a stupid user question, I'm sure: does the fact that those jack housing are metal mean that i have to avoid them touching each other when everything's hooked up on the pedal board?
Probably doesn't make a difference, but I honestly don't know. Seems to me if they're metal, then if they were touching, that might make unwanted electrical connections. I'm wrong, right? I mean, I'm right about being wrong, right?
See, it's confusing.

The last batch of patch cables the Switchcraft 280 style plugs arrived painted black.

But technically do not allow the plugs to touch as minor ground loop may result -but at 6 inch cable length between pedals-the ground loop noise from plugs touching is minor.

I've used heat shrink isolation covering the plug when noise issues can be heard from plugs touching

Today companies make a big deal about isolated ground power source for pedal boards

40 years ago I just used common power supply ground and tied that to metal chassis on each  pedal  and built custom "ground Lifted" Audio cables  floated the unbalanced ground  input on the receiving pedal -killed most noise -cables using the flat 280 plug provides that option
https://www.ranecommercial.com/kb_article.php?article=2107
https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=2078.0

https://www.amazon.com/Systems-Design-Installation-Philip-Giddings/dp/0240802861

mooncaine


pasha811

Quote from: gumbo on March 22, 2021, 07:33:59 AM
No Moonie, you were wrong about being right....also, your wrong wasn't right at all..
...but to be truthful, there's nothing wrong with being right wrongly, or for that matter being wrong rightly, right?

It would be wrong to take away people's rights, and in fact that would do nothing to right all the obvious wrongs in the first place..

BUT, rightly or wrongly, it IS your right to be wrong....and confused, right?

...no need to thank me for explaining it for you..     HTH    ...and get a wider pedalboard, right?

Cheers,
Peter

Gumbo! I missed this incredibile set of stements. Now I am also (happily) confused. :-)
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