GP-10- Amps or Speekers?

[Jim Williams]

I have been experimenting with the amp models in my GP-10 and speaker sims. I found that if I tried some EQ settings I could get close to the sound I want. So I went into my DAW and loaded some high end speaker IR's and the sound was just there. my sound was fat punchy and it felt good. I came to the realization that impulse responses are the way to go with any amp modeling. Now I don't want to run out there and buy more expensive processor I just want to get that sound live. Now I am sure Roland will not make a custom GP-10 for me that I can load IR's into so does anyone know of a pedal that I could put on the floor after my GP-10 to give me that?

Thanx,Jimmy.

[admin]

There are a few devices that add Cab IR

The Logidy ESPI is affordable and popular for this function

http://www.logidy.com
https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=11541.msg83889#msg83889

[Majiken]

Wow, I've been wondering about that, agree that IR is the wave, can perhaps overtake instrument modeling over time.... the Logidy looks good, but without midi control you'd have to reach down and handswitch every change???

[admin]

There are versions with MIDI control ,but more money

http://amtelectronics.com/new/amt-pangaea-cp-100fx/

http://www.two-notes.com/en/hardware/torpedo-cab/

[Neardark72]

I like the slogan "everything is just beginning".
These products are a great idea. Thanks for pointing this up!

[Jim Williams]

Thank you for your input it has been very helpful. I think the Logidy is a perfect fit for my toys for that price. TWOS is just too much money but as a plugin it sounds great.

[Neardark72]

Hey Jim,
Can you givre us some feed-back about the gear?

It might Hell on the gr55 as well.

Thanks

[DickBanks]

My Line 6 Helix does IRs great. but that's a lot of box and $$$ just to chain in some IRs...

[Jim Williams]

Hey Jim,
Can you givre us some feed-back about the gear?

It might Hell on the gr55 as well.

Thanks

I have a GT-100, GR-55, GP-10, POD HD500X and some older Boss/Roland processors. The only thing with the GR-55 is when you add an IR after the output the synths are subject to same cab sound.

Jimmy.

[Neardark72]

True,
And i didn't even thought about it... But those gears can be bypass on the songs or parts you use synth.

I use the gr55 a lot for changing tuning, it prevents to bring 5 guitars in a gig or making everyone waiting after you while you change the tuning. I hate most of the metal tones in it though.

Might have to buy a HD500x but with the current rates, it's 40% more expensive in Canada. With five kids, there's things more important that spending 1000$ on a hobby. And I already have 2000$ in mind without it 

[jonathanmaness]

It seems like the Neunaber Iconoclast might be perfect for this.  I preordered one and can weigh back in a few weeks.

[Neardark72]

Jonathan, did you get it?

[JiveTurkey]

I've just started in on the amp modeling side of the GP. I have an Atomic amplfire I use for traditional guitar tones. Might have to give the GP 1959 sim a go, speakers off and run it through some celestion IRs loaded up in the Atomic's cab block  Curious how that would effect things like sax and horn tones as I would just run the same IR the majority of the night.

[admin]

Curious how that would effect things like sax and horn tones as I would just run the same IR the majority of the night.

It will sound same as mic'ing a sax into a guitar amp  - no high frequencies

Thats the battle - signal flow for good electric guitar tone ( with IR cab sims) is in conflict with the best signal flow for synths / acoustic tones.( where full range / flat response works best.


These same concepts were explained in 2014 when you used a GR-55
https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?action=profile;u=11946;area=showposts;start=175

[JiveTurkey]

It will sound same as miking a sax into a guitar amp  - no high frequencies

Thats the battle - signal flow for good electric guitar tone ( with IR cab sims) is in conflict with the best signal flow for synths / acoustic tones.( where fill range / flat response works best.

Exactly as I expected. Plenty of switching options in the Atomic and the GP (despite the limited # of physical switches). Blending and routing signals is, as always; another big part of the "battle"