GR-55 Bug List for submission to Roland Corp.

Started by jcmidi, February 06, 2011, 07:43:35 PM

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Elantric

Problem with GR-55 Lead Preset 07-1 Concert Grand  - -Sound is intermittently triggered.

Roland US Corp replied: "We have been able to reproduce this anomaly, and have reported this to Roland Japan."

https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=3057.msg20063#msg20063

Elantric

 hope Roland will release next firmware version with a small indicator after the default value of the parameter, saying this parameter is controlled. Because when you work with a lot of controllers is very tough to remember which parameter is controlled, especially if you start from old preset.

https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=3057.msg21036#msg21036

Elantric

There are sometimes, but not always, a 1-2 second rubbery ramping portamento type glitch when changing patches that use PCM.

I happen to be running in Bass Mode. I have not tried in Guitar Mode.

* Init two adjacent patches
* Set Patch 1 PCM1 tone = 275
* Set Patch 2 PCM1 tone = 276
* Play and switch from Patch 1 to Patch 2
* Note it takes about 1-2 seconds before Patch 2 starts sounding correct
* Play and switch back from Patch 2 to Patch 1, a similar issue does not exist

As best I can tell it's related to specific PCM tones, such as #276. It must take a while to initialize their performance or something. But it's an issue to be aware of.

https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=3057.msg22639#msg22639

Elantric

If you use one of the 'panning' pulsed patches and are not running stereo it wont be pulsed as the L Ch folls in the R Ch spaces. Fair enough really and not actually a 'bug' as such but....

Could not find a way around this other than using an assign and the wave pedal to turn the PCM tone on and off.
The GR-55 seems to struggle with faster BPMs though and you will struggle to get quavers at anything over 100BPM before it starts to 'miss' the Wave pedal transitions giving your 'pulsed' tone an odd rhythmic pattern to it.
Had a little more success by using the Wave pedal to change PCM volume which allowed me to push the BPM a little higher before the rhythmic patterning returned.

https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=3057.msg23973#msg23973

Elantric

#79
When I set the GK Vol to be the tone volume in the main controllers page (not the assigns page), setting only the modeling volume to "on", and then turn the GK volume knob down, the model gets quieter. So far so good. But then, with the GK knob still down, if I push the EXP switch, the model volume pops back up to maximum, even while the GK knob is turned down.

This happens regardless whether the EXP or CTL or any assigns are programmed or enabled. Doesn't seem to matter what controller the EXP switch is set to either.

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I think I've narrowed the scope of this bug.

The "tone volume" controller parameter allows you to set any of four sources to "on" or "off": PCM#1, PCM#1, model, or pickup.

If you set mutually exclusive sets of these sources to "on" and assign them to different controllers, they will still conflict. For example, if you set the GK volume to control the model tone volume (off, off, on, off), and you set the EXP to control the PCM#1 and PCM#2 tone volume (on, on, off, off), the model volume will still pop back up to full when you step on the EXPSW.

You'd think that setting a source to "off" for a controller assigned to the tone volume would cause that controller to ignore the source set to "off."

The work-around is to only use the "tone volume" target in one of the Pedal/controller parameters, and set up any others in the "assign" area, where there does not appear to be a conflict.



https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=3057.msg24150#msg24150

Elantric

I don't know exactly how I did it, I was playing with some alternate tunings and  some 'user' tunings on the COSM guitars. After a while I went to tune my guitar (in individual string tune mode, I love that !!! ) and somehow all the strings were wrong ( Low E showed as A, A as a D etc. ). I tried disabling alt tunings, also setting the intervals back to zero, but it would'nt come back to normal until I did a factory reset.
I reloaded my custom patches and the tuner still worked


https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=3057.msg26113#msg26113

Elantric

#81
Restore the COSM PU selection via GK-3's "S1" (up) & "S2" (down) to navigate all 5 COSM model pickup choices in the Strat COSM Guitar models.
In essence clone the VG-99  COSM pickup control selection method for "S1" & "S2"
It would also be great if they added a pickup position indicator to the top level screen. Not necesarilly a graphic, even text along the lines of F, F+M, M, M+R, R would suffice - just something so you can tell without going into a menu.


Bill Ruppert

Using the MFX Guitar Amp Sim, the mic setting control does not work.
Positions 1-2-3 and not active.

Elantric

#83
Twice while using the Phrase looper and changing patches the unit freezes. Had to power on /off the GR-55.
https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=3057.msg19149#msg19149

Elantric


Bill Ruppert

The non assignable HOLD function makes holding impossible while using the "Phrase Loop".
They both share the CTL pedal.

mbenigni

#86
Quote from: Bill Ruppert on October 19, 2011, 07:51:01 AM
The non assignable HOLD function makes holding impossible while using the "Phrase Loop".

Making the list of Assign targets more comprehensive would go a long way toward improving the GR55.  In addition to Hold, I would like to see Pitch Bend added - seems like a no-brainer.  There are others, I'm sure.  I'll be back to edit this post as they come to me.

I'd also love to see an option for repurposing the "Lead/Rhythm/Other" and/or "V-Link" buttons, to use them as Assign sources, or to turn the Tuner and Phrase Loop on and off without risking a patch change.  (Those 2-pedal combos are absolutely terrible IMO.)

EDIT Just thought of a new one for the list of items to add to Assign targets: Tap Tempo.

mbenigni

This one may or may not be possible, but if the DLY/CHO/REV/EQ blocks simply had pan controls on them, it would make the GR55 much more usable for those trying to use hybrid guitar amp/ FRFR rigs.

tekrytor

#88
Quote from:  Elantric on October 19, 2011, 06:54:02 AM
Can we assemble a "GR-55 Bug List" - and i will get it to Roland US at 2012 Winter NAMM show- (i see them every year)

No guarantees Roland will do anything, but at least we can say we tried.

It would be quite nice if Roland would publish a bug list, too. It would save users a lot of frustration. I work in tech pubs for a very large router company and we do that. We publish "release notes" for each software release that includes new features and a list of "known issues", aka bugs. It's a very common process in software development.

If you speak with Roland reps, you might ask about their release notes too. Their software developers keep them, why not publish a list of bugs Roland knows of that affect users? We might be able to help them by providing work arounds, testing, corrections, etc.
SY-300/BeatBuddy/VoiceLive 3/GR-55(v1.50)/33/1/50/700/VGA-7/V-Bass, Yam-G10, GPK-4, DIY X-Bee HighlyLiquidCPU "Cozy-Lil-Footie", FCB-1010, other MIDI stuff, Godin Freeway SA and various other GK equipped controllers, Sonar X1, Audacity, KXstudio, Misc devices

Elantric

#89
QuoteIt would be quite nice if Roland would publish a bug list, too. It would save users a lot of frustration.
If you speak with Roland reps, you might ask about their release notes too.

Will Do!

But I advise I have done this before with Roland with the VG-99 , and it never went anywhere.
https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=1319.0


In a perfect world Roland would act more like Line6:

http://line6.com/software/index.html



Read my prior 2008 era  VG-99 buglist and results here:

https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=1319.0;attach=1484

My sheer frustration with Roland Gear is the principal reason this forum was created.
It acts somewhat as a "reality check" for all users of Roland VGuitar gear to congregate and compare notes & filter out the dis-info marketing hype, when we run into the:
"WTF - what were they thinking when they shipped this like this!!"   


But today I have contacts higher up the food chain in the Roland infrastructure, and I will forward this GR-55 bug list to all parties I can at:

Roland US

Roland UK

Roland Germany

Roland Japan

Elantric

* Enable a MIDI Thru Function on the GR-55. Without this important function, its very difficult to integrate the GR-55 into a Guitar to MIDI triggered external synth rig,  controlled by an external MIDI  Foot controller.

paults

This is more of a doco/preset issue, but every new owner has to either discover it on their own, or come here to get the answer:

Enable Normal guitar in any User patch that uses amp modeling and standard tuning.

Or, at least, put a really big notice in the Set Up section of the manual about how to enable Normal pickup, and the GK/Both/Synth switch.

frankvai

Quote from: jcmidi on February 06, 2011, 07:43:35 PM
Twice while using the Phrase looper and changing patches the unit freezes. Had to restart ,anyone else ? Can't get the RX PC Map
function working. Sending PC from Lexicon MPX floorboard
works fine on fixed but when switched to PROG nothing. Tested another unit same thing. Sent all types of PC from other devices no luck.

Have owned GR500  GR300  GR700  GM70  GR30  GR33


i have the same bug  in fix mode work fine but nothing in prg mode with many foot controller :(

Nick M

#93
A few weeks ago, my Gr55 was  in a situation whereupon receiving a patch change from a Ground Control Midiboard its sound became completely muted. The only way to get the output sound back on, was pushing down on the GR55 pedals toe switch. This seemed to be the case with every patch I tried. -So basically every time I tried to change patch, it would just mute the unit 'til I went over to it and stomped on the toe switch.  Powering down the GR55 and back on again made no difference, it just stayed like that all day. The next day however everything was back to normal and it was fine again.
  Until a couple of days ago however, when exactly the same thing happened again. On neither occasion were there any different circumstances in the way the GR55 was set up to usual, or what other things it was connected to. I always send it patches from the Ground Control midiboard. So I can't see anything that might have triggered it to have behaved differently from all the other times I switch it on.

- Anybody got any suggestions as to what might have been causing this problem?

Elantric


Machh_2

Hello !!!
este topico é de fevereiro 2011, e eu comprei o meu GR-55, no dia 15 de dezembro 2011, eu gostaria de saber se a Roland ja consertou esses bug nos aparelhos mais recentes.

tnx

Elantric

#96
A Resposta = Não

Mais GR-55 bugs são aqui:

https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=4723.0

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The Answer = No

More GR-55 bugs are here:

https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=4723.0

Machh_2

tnx for reply, and plz sorry me, i forgot to translate to english... lol
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gafaell

Please, include an intelligent HARMONIZER, as on previous models

hanzarouth

I've been using my GR-55 with GK-3 pickup for quite a while now, and today I noticed some exposed wires from the top of the pickup. The screw that keeps the little cap in place had fallen off. A tiny screw like that would normally be hard to find, but if you'll notice in the pic, the pickup magnet held onto it. I recommend you check this screw regularly to ensure it is tight. There should probably be a locking washer or something.