SY-300 and VG-99 together

Started by pjwassermann, February 11, 2016, 05:04:13 AM

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pjwassermann

Hi Cracks

I want to use the SY-300 and the VG-99 together in parallel and I want to be able to set the relative levels of the two noisemakers by a foot pedal.

To my astonishment I couldn't find any stereo crossfade pedal.

Does anybody have a hint? Or an idea for a workaround?

Thanks and kind regards
PJ Wassermann
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imerkat

a small mixer would work but T-Rex makes it in a pedal form;

http://www.t-rex-effects.com/polyswitch/

krysh

my 2 ct's, yours,

krysh

sy-300 newbie and bass- and guitarplayer from hamburg, germany

Brak(E)man

Expression pedal , sending midi volume mapped inverted on one of the two
( You need a midi cable though ) :)
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pjwassermann

Quote from: imerkat on February 11, 2016, 05:29:31 AM
a small mixer would work but T-Rex makes it in a pedal form;

http://www.t-rex-effects.com/polyswitch/

This is just a switch - I have it but I need a crossfader.
PJ Wassermann
http://www.pjwassermann.com/
Last album "Space Drone Salad": https://pjwassermann.bandcamp.com

pjwassermann

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http://www.pjwassermann.com/
Last album "Space Drone Salad": https://pjwassermann.bandcamp.com

pjwassermann

Quote from: Brak(E)man on February 11, 2016, 09:31:36 AM
Expression pedal , sending midi volume mapped inverted on one of the two
( You need a midi cable though ) :)

Could work, I'm not a MIDI specialist. Probably expensive and clumsy. It would take three boxes, wouldn't it? One pedal and two MIDI controlled mixers, one for each stereo path.

PJ Wassermann
http://www.pjwassermann.com/
Last album "Space Drone Salad": https://pjwassermann.bandcamp.com

shawnb

A possible alternate approach to consider... 

My first thought would be to use a generic pedal that sends out CCs.   Use global assigns on both devices, in opposite directions.   

To get the signal to both, I'd attempt to make use of the MIDI 'thru' and connect the two devices by 5-pin. 
Address the process rather than the outcome.  Then, the outcome becomes more likely.   - Fripp

Brak(E)man

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Quote from: pjwassermann on February 12, 2016, 02:07:15 AM
Could work, I'm not a MIDI specialist. Probably expensive and clumsy. It would take three boxes, wouldn't it? One pedal and two MIDI controlled mixers, one for each stereo path.

Only one pedal ( fi Boss ev 5 ) and one midi cable , you'd control the volume on each unit
One of the units would send midi volume to the other and at the same time control the volume on the sending unit, one mapped inverted
swimming with a hole in my body

I play Country music too, I'm just not sure which country it's from...

"The only thing worse than a guitar is a guitarist!"
- Lydia Lunch

szilard

Quote from: pjwassermann on February 11, 2016, 05:04:13 AM
Hi Cracks

I want to use the SY-300 and the VG-99 together in parallel and I want to be able to set the relative levels of the two noisemakers by a foot pedal.

To my astonishment I couldn't find any stereo crossfade pedal.

Does anybody have a hint? Or an idea for a workaround?

Thanks and kind regards
PJ Wassermann

You don't provide enough information to say. I drive the sy 300 from a sub out on the vg-99. I'm using it in a home studio, not live, so I don't have it programmed this way, but you could have the B channel sent to the sub out and on to the sy 300 and channel A to main out and use the A/B balance to crossfade. Do you use an FC-300 or some other device to control the vg-99?

Sacal

Pigtronix Keymaster + Expression pedal would do what you want....and lots more!

http://www.pigtronix.com/products/keymaster/

mooncaine

I wish I knew more about electronics so I could explain this better, but here goes:

An expression pedal affects the voltage, right? So isn't there some simpler, electrical way to route a signal to the same pedal, but also have an inverter thingy of some kind on that line? Is there such a thing, that just inverts the effect that the pedal has upon the voltage?

pjwassermann

Quote from: Sacal on February 18, 2016, 01:48:37 PM
Pigtronix Keymaster + Expression pedal would do what you want....and lots more!

http://www.pigtronix.com/products/keymaster/

Sadly this just mono...  :(
PJ Wassermann
http://www.pjwassermann.com/
Last album "Space Drone Salad": https://pjwassermann.bandcamp.com

Brak(E)man

Quote from: Brak(E)man on February 13, 2016, 12:44:49 AM
Only one pedal ( fi Boss ev 5 ) and one midi cable , you'd control the volume on each unit
One of the units would send midi volume to the other and at the same time control the volume on the sending unit, one mapped inverted

This is by far the easiest , most effective and cheapest way.
swimming with a hole in my body

I play Country music too, I'm just not sure which country it's from...

"The only thing worse than a guitar is a guitarist!"
- Lydia Lunch