GR-55- Stereo Question

Started by tboneous, March 24, 2021, 02:33:52 PM

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tboneous

Hello,

I am trying to get the normal pickups through the Boss Clean amp to come out of the Left output
And the PCMs to come out of the right output without any bleed or ghosts.

I want to use the GR 55 amps and normal guitar pickups through my Line 6 powercab that has modeled speakers.
I want the synth to go through the other powercab that I have set as frfr.

I can't figure out how to do this

Thanks


gumtown

This is a very limiting feature of the GR-55, the only way is to use the MOD effect block hard panned to one side,
and the MFX block routed for synth only and hard panned to the other side.

Then that leaves the Chorus, Reverb, and Delay which all must be 'off' to prevent L/R bleed.

A better alternative is to use the GR-55 and its effects purely for the PCM synths,
and route the dry guitar/modelled instrument out through "Guitar Out" and into a separate multi effects/amp modeler (Boss GT-1 will do).
Free "GR-55 FloorBoard" editor software from https://sourceforge.net/projects/grfloorboard/

admin

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Quote from: MitchP on April 05, 2021, 04:05:07 PM
First of all, thank everyone for this incredible site. I owned several similar (maybe the same) GR-55 units years ago when playing for a worship team. Being 64 and losing many grey cells during the 70's concerts, I can't remember how I even hooked them up but just used strings/choir/orchestra patches.

My wife and I now play classic rock from Jeff Airplane, Bad Co., Pink Floyd and some newer stuff too. Here is my painful question which I think I already read the answer to but I have to hear it so I can return mine for a refund or not. I have a GP-10 bumblebee unit for COSM pre-amps and stomp boxes and it works well. I bought the GR-55 with the hopes I could run my GK3 pickup line in, split the signal in the GR and send COSM modeled amp sounds and stomp box functions to the input of my clean channel amp and use the mono/left output to my PA for organs, some crunch synth as a 2nd guitar, etc.

I have seen several threads where the statement was made that this is not possible. Please, is there any way to split the COSM and synth sounds via the guitar out to my amp and a PA? If not, then sadly it's going back for a full refund. I can't justify the price for such limitations. Roland customer support was no help and the guy sounded like he was on 20 cups of java. It is NOT for lack of staring at the documentation and jumping back and forth a gazillion times between pages 12,22,58,59,70,80 LOL.

I did search for the GR-55 top ten must know list but couldn't find it. Sorry for the novel and thanks to the folks who've taken the time to include .pdf files with pics of the assign edit screens tabs.

Thanks, Mitchp

Your question is getting asked a lot lately

see Gumtowns latest answer
https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=30293.msg221627#msg221627
QuoteThis is a very limiting feature of the GR-55, the only way is to use the MOD effect block hard panned to one side,
and the MFX block routed for synth only and hard panned to the other side.

Then that leaves the Chorus, Reverb, and Delay which all must be 'off' to prevent L/R bleed.

A better alternative is to use the GR-55 and its effects purely for the PCM synths,
and route the dry guitar/modelled instrument out through "Guitar Out" and into a separate multi effects/amp modeler (Boss GT-1 will do).

If your plan is to run separate paths for guitar and synth to different sources, I would recommend buying a small cheap multi effects, like the Boss GT-1, and plug the GR-55  "Guitar Out" (which is either or Both modelled instrument and normal guitar pickups) and run that into the GT-1 for your guitar tones and effects, and the GR-55 L/R Outputs for you synth tones.

That way you can get what you are after,
although,
running everything through the GR-55 and having a mixed composite of guitar, effects, synth to the GR-55 output works too,
with the GR-55 modelled Amps and cabinets, there is no need for a separate guitar amp, just run the whole lot through a full range system, such as a desk > P.A.
Either way does not make any difference to the audience as they only have one pair of ears.

Most just feed GR-55 Stereo out into 2 channels panned hard left / right on House Main PA SYSTEM - and establish the mix of Guitar vs Synth using the expression pedal on GR-55
Many user patches have this configuration
 

Many user patches have this configuration
  * GR-55 Ultimate Multi Control patches (solves the GR-55 long Patch change delay (with mute) issue)
and
Jim Williams Multiple Assignment Patches.
https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=5647.msg38806#msg38806
Learn multi-assignments by following all steps outlined here - then edit to suit YOUR needs.

Guitarplayer_10's  GR-55 Ultimate Multi Control patch step by step
https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=7267.msg50612#msg50612



GR-55 - Use all four GR-55 tone sources mixed via Expression Pedal position
https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=9591.msg151708#msg151708


Toby Krebs posted dozens of GR-55 patches he uses at his gig. Each patch uses Multiple Control Assignments for the Expression pedal to allow you to "pan" between rhythm and solo tones withing each patch  - this allow you to use One GR-55 patch per song and circumvent the long mute silence gap that occurs when changing GR-55 patches during a song.   
https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=8709.0
GR-55 F.A.Q.
https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=3137


* GR-55 Tips and Tricks ( Routing, MIDI Control Assignments)
https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=3137.msg20178#msg20178


* GR-55 Tips and Setup PDF Docs by Jim Williams, Shawn B and Guitar Jimmy
https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?action=downloads;cat=18

MitchP

Admin: thanks to you and Gumtown for this lead  :D I may be keeping the synth after all. I just don't know if I have enough footroom for my pedalboard and the GR-55 in front of me LOL. I have degenerative disc disease in my back and remain seated when playing. I'll need a card table next to me I suppose  ::)

MitchP
Tap into your inner Ace!