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Title: 13-PIN PLUG & SOCKET DUST COVERS
Post by: billbax on June 24, 2016, 12:22:35 PM
Hi All,

I’m looking for three senior forum members to field test my 13-P plug and socket dust covers. I have three giveaway mixed bags of plug and socket covers (actually ten of each). If you’re interested, feel free to drop me a pm with your address, and I will be happy to ship them to you free of charge. The only catch is, I would like you to review them here at the v-guitar forum.

Thanks,  Bill

20 Plug and Socket covers
(http://www.separate-strings.co.uk/20%20socket%20and%20plug%20covers.jpg)

Mr Dust and Mr Dirt
(http://www.separate-strings.co.uk/GP10%20Slime%20and%20dirt%20700.jpg)

An unprotected 13-P Plug
(http://www.separate-strings.co.uk/13%20pin%20plug%20and%20cover%20700.jpg)

(http://www.separate-strings.co.uk/Plugcover.gif)

(http://www.separate-strings.co.uk/Socketcover.gif)
Title: Re: 13-PIN PLUG & SOCKET DUST COVERS
Post by: Elantric on June 24, 2016, 12:29:03 PM
Bill,
These look excellent and should help all GK 13 pin users !
Title: Re: 13-PIN PLUG & SOCKET DUST COVERS
Post by: billbax on June 24, 2016, 12:36:25 PM
Thanks Elantric,

Your early Christmas present went off on Wednesday 8)
Title: Re: 13-PIN PLUG & SOCKET DUST COVERS
Post by: whippinpost91850 on June 24, 2016, 01:38:56 PM
I like them
Title: Re: 13-PIN PLUG & SOCKET DUST COVERS
Post by: billbax on June 24, 2016, 02:17:38 PM
One top-brass senior member done!  Just need two more.

Bill

http://www.separate-strings.co.uk/13pinprotection.html (http://www.separate-strings.co.uk/13pinprotection.html)

(http://www.separate-strings.co.uk/wpimages/wpd14d16c0.gif)
Title: Re: 13-PIN PLUG & SOCKET DUST COVERS
Post by: Elantric on July 27, 2016, 10:50:15 AM
I can confirm these Bill Bax  13-PIN PLUG & SOCKET DUST COVERS are very effective and help maintain your Gk 13 pin plugs and jacks dustfree and minimize oxidation and contamination during transport and storage between gigs
http://www.separate-strings.co.uk/ (http://www.separate-strings.co.uk/)
billbax@separate-strings.co.uk

(http://www.separate-strings.co.uk/GP10%20Slime%20and%20dirt%20700.jpg)

(http://www.separate-strings.co.uk/20%20socket%20and%20plug%20covers.jpg)

(http://www.separate-strings.co.uk/Plugcover.gif)
Title: Re: 13-PIN PLUG & SOCKET DUST COVERS
Post by: whippinpost91850 on July 27, 2016, 10:57:05 AM
I've been using the Bill Bax 13 pin covers for a couple of weeks and wanted to do a couple of rehearsals and gigs. I have to concur with Elantric these work excellent for keeping things clean and tidy.. Thanks Bil

Paul
Title: Re: 13-PIN PLUG & SOCKET DUST COVERS
Post by: billbax on July 29, 2016, 01:43:20 PM
Big thanks to Elantric and whippingpost for field-testing.

The idea with protecting and covering 13-Pin plugs and sockets is important. One length of 1.2M X 19.1mm heatshrink is enough to make 30+ covers, with a ‘bill of materials’ price of only £0.03 GBP each.

13-PIN SOCKET TEMPLATE PDF GUIDE
The protective covers are extremely easy to make, and only require a few simple tools. The PDF download template guide below should enable anyone to quickly fabricate enough covers to last a lifetime.
(http://www.separate-strings.co.uk/wpimages/wp531d69de_01_06.jpg)

TOOLS
A paint stripper gun (low setting) is usually best with heatshrink, although a hair dryer is nearly as good. Saying that, using the girlfriends hair dryer might be the end of you...burnt-out hair dryer = dog-house or codesmart’s ‘war council’ etc.

TWEEZERS
A hot air gun or hair dryer can make holding a wobbling piece of heatshrink uncomfortable on your fingers , so using a long-reach pair of tweezers is a good idea.

ONE MORE... 1/4” / 6.35MM JACK COVER.  19.1mm Heatshrink.
(http://www.separate-strings.co.uk/wpimages/wp8e76b0d2_01_06.jpg)

See you,

Bill

http://www.separate-strings.co.uk/13pinprotection.html (http://www.separate-strings.co.uk/13pinprotection.html)

(http://www.separate-strings.co.uk/wpimages/wpd14d16c0.gif)
Title: Re: 13-PIN PLUG & SOCKET DUST COVERS
Post by: mooncaine on July 29, 2016, 02:13:58 PM
Still need a 3rd senior?

I'm taking a VG-99 out on weekends to tiny bar stages these days. I have a a few other GR and VG stuff that's literally gathering dust in the garage right now, like my reviled GR-55. Hmm, not counting the switcher box, I've got 5 things that take 13-pin inputs. Dang, I'm a very fortunate dude.
Title: Re: 13-PIN PLUG & SOCKET DUST COVERS
Post by: whippinpost91850 on July 29, 2016, 02:24:25 PM
You are welcome. Thanks Paul
Title: Re: 13-PIN PLUG & SOCKET DUST COVERS
Post by: billbax on July 29, 2016, 02:57:31 PM
Thanks Paul and mooncaine for your thoughts etc. 

Mooncain send me a pm with your address, and I'll post on Monday 1st.  I've got a stock of 13-pin plug & socket covers, and if you want 1/4" covers that's ok?  The supply is 20 - you choose.

See you,

Bill

http://www.separate-strings.co.uk/13pinprotection.html (http://www.separate-strings.co.uk/13pinprotection.html)

(http://www.separate-strings.co.uk/wpimages/wpd14d16c0.gif)
Title: Re: 13-PIN PLUG & SOCKET DUST COVERS
Post by: gumbo on August 13, 2016, 07:03:17 AM
Practise safe 13-Pinning...    ;D
Title: Re: 13-PIN PLUG & SOCKET DUST COVERS
Post by: whippinpost91850 on August 13, 2016, 08:38:03 AM
I've been using them everyday ;D
Title: Re: 13-PIN PLUG & SOCKET DUST COVERS
Post by: billbax on August 13, 2016, 01:47:45 PM
Thanks guys,

My latest fantasy is for some future archaeologist (4016AD) to find a 13-pin plug and socket in full working order.

From the 13-pin vault of horrors...

The pin insert should be self-cleaning, as the mating pinch is good. In practice, it’s usually a different story.
(http://www.separate-strings.co.uk/Disassembled%2013Pin%20socket%20and%20pin%20insert%201.jpg)

Clean pin contact and looking a bit sc-fi.
(http://www.separate-strings.co.uk/Disassembled%2013Pin%20socket%20and%20pin%20insert%202.jpg)

Very poor ground pressure contact
(http://www.separate-strings.co.uk/13%20Pin%20socket%20and%20poor%20ground%20connection.jpg)

Unprotected Crimp Pin. 8 years old.
(http://www.separate-strings.co.uk/wpimages/wp0a75c2d1_01_06.jpg)
Title: Re: 13-PIN PLUG & SOCKET DUST COVERS
Post by: mooncaine on August 14, 2016, 02:20:41 PM
Got my pack of dust covers, and just fitted some on a GK-3 wart and the cable that just came from it. Fit seems perfect.

I'll be taking my VG out next weekend; we'll see how it goes and whether I lose 'em.

Now that my 13-pin socket's so well-dressed, I feel like giving it a bath, but I'm afraid to break or mess with anything that's working just fine. It'll be 10 years old soon.

Title: Re: 13-PIN PLUG & SOCKET DUST COVERS
Post by: billbax on August 14, 2016, 04:12:25 PM
Hi mooncaine,

Good to hear they arrived safely.  Looking forward to hearing about your road test.

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I'll be taking my VG out next weekend; we'll see how it goes and whether I lose 'em.

That's given me an idea for 'glow in the dark' covers  ::)

Thanks,

Bill

http://www.separate-strings.co.uk/13pinprotection.html (http://www.separate-strings.co.uk/13pinprotection.html)

(http://www.separate-strings.co.uk/wpimages/wpd14d16c0.gif)
Title: Re: 13-PIN PLUG & SOCKET DUST COVERS
Post by: mooncaine on August 14, 2016, 06:30:14 PM
Nice idea!

I'm thinking a hole through the flat end might be nice, to maybe attach it to the cable so it'll always be ready to hand.
Title: Re: 13-PIN PLUG & SOCKET DUST COVERS
Post by: CodeSmart on August 14, 2016, 11:08:12 PM
Bill, can you please quote me.
This is a splendid idea :D
Cheers
Robert
Title: Re: 13-PIN PLUG & SOCKET DUST COVERS
Post by: mooncaine on August 21, 2016, 11:24:56 PM
Early review: they got through gig #1 just fine. I used these to cap the input socket on my VG-99 and a GK-3 wart attached to a Squier Strat, and the cable ends of the cable I was using (though, now that I think about it, I should go cap my spare cable, too).

I used 'em all week, pulled 'em off at least 6 times, back on 7, then at the gig, I didn't know where to put 'em, so I stuffed 'em in my front pocket. They still seemed to work at evening's end, when I was packing up and put 'em back on.

So far, so good!
Title: Re: 13-PIN PLUG & SOCKET DUST COVERS
Post by: billbax on August 22, 2016, 12:08:43 PM
Hi Mooncaine,

Thanks for the detailed field-test. 

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I'm thinking a hole through the flat end might be nice, to maybe attach it to the cable so it'll always be ready to hand.

After some thoughts and a detail chat with another senior forum member, I (we) think it's a bad idea keeping these covers outside of their resealable plastic bag.  Something to do with cross-contamination, by allowing dust and dirt to gather on the cover, and then fitting them to the plug/socket. IMHO this defeats the idea of a protective cover.

Bill

(http://www.separate-strings.co.uk/Plugcover.gif)
Title: Re: 13-PIN PLUG & SOCKET DUST COVERS
Post by: CodeSmart on September 06, 2016, 02:24:15 PM
Yeah!! I got mine today. Immediately ran down to my basement and captured both the 13-pins and the 5-pins MIDI (yes they fit there to) on my too seldom used VG-99 and GR-33. Perfect fit!!!
Even though I haven't used rubber protection for years 8), I managed to fit these guys just perfect.

I took a photo but I'm too tired after driving four hours from kids and then rehearsing tonight with the band but I'll hope to post it soon.
Anyhow friends, this hi tech/low tech things (and clevere idea) is really great!

Thank you Sir Bill!!!

Cheers
Robert
Title: Re: 13-PIN PLUG & SOCKET DUST COVERS
Post by: billbax on September 06, 2016, 02:55:27 PM
Hi Robert,

Thanks for reviewing the 13-pin covers. Your senior forum member opinion is very important and it's appreciated. If you can post the photos whenever, that would be great.

Thanks again,

Sir Bill 8)

http://www.separate-strings.co.uk/13pinprotection.html (http://www.separate-strings.co.uk/13pinprotection.html)

(http://www.separate-strings.co.uk/wpimages/wpd14d16c0.gif)
Title: Re: 13-PIN PLUG & SOCKET DUST COVERS
Post by: gumbo on September 06, 2016, 07:23:33 PM
Mine arrived yesterday and they have changed my life !!!   :o

Thank you Bill for a great product  ...which incidentally ALSO fits Synth-Linx Jacks  ;)

Kind regards,
Peter
Title: Re: 13-PIN PLUG & SOCKET DUST COVERS
Post by: whippinpost91850 on September 06, 2016, 07:43:29 PM
Yep I use them everyday and they are an awesome product
Title: Re: 13-PIN PLUG & SOCKET DUST COVERS
Post by: mooncaine on September 07, 2016, 11:30:56 AM
I have an update after using them a few weeks:

I thought I'd lose them when I took them off, so I put them in my pocket till after the show. They survived a few hours in my pocket with my big clunky keychain, and still have the proper shape. Still worked fine. Cool!

Title: Re: 13-PIN PLUG & SOCKET DUST COVERS
Post by: billbax on September 08, 2016, 10:20:54 AM
Thanks guys for reviewing the covers. 

The big question is, will the dust covers slow up the need to buy new 13-P cables?  I'm hoping the covers go some way towards breaking the nasty purchase cycle - only time will tell.

Cheers, Bill

(http://www.separate-strings.co.uk/Plugcover.gif)
Title: Re: 13-PIN PLUG & SOCKET DUST COVERS
Post by: Elantric on September 08, 2016, 10:24:51 AM
I find value in using a semi hard case for transporting GK-13 cables , it prevents them getting crushed

One of these headphones cases work to store and transport a few GK cables

(http://www.slappa.com/Full_headphone_front_350x350.jpg)
Title: Re: 13-PIN PLUG & SOCKET DUST COVERS
Post by: Headless68 on September 08, 2016, 04:06:55 PM
This is a great idea - I notice that even kept in the house 13 pin cable ends get oxidisation after a while ( I tend to use my old planet waves cable and the roland ones just sit there as spares
Title: Re: 13-PIN PLUG & SOCKET DUST COVERS
Post by: frummox on September 10, 2016, 08:22:08 PM
(http://i1376.photobucket.com/albums/ah17/frummox/Covers_zpskxfmm9uk.jpg) (http://s1376.photobucket.com/user/frummox/media/Covers_zpskxfmm9uk.jpg.html)
Worked great, thanks Bill. I had fabric covers made for my units but I think your socket covers will do a better job.
Title: Re: 13-PIN PLUG & SOCKET DUST COVERS
Post by: billbax on September 11, 2016, 12:06:37 PM
Thanks frummox for reviewing the 13-pin covers. Your photo shows how simple it is protecting those precious plugs and sockets.

Spent the past few days working on the 13-Pin covers DIY movie, and hope it gives v-guitar forum members a basic insight.

13-PIN PLUG AND SOCKET DUST COVERS
https://youtu.be/5hHJ7VkaBGg (https://youtu.be/5hHJ7VkaBGg)

Thanks,  Bill

http://www.separate-strings.co.uk/13pinprotection.html (http://www.separate-strings.co.uk/13pinprotection.html)

(http://www.separate-strings.co.uk/wpimages/wpd14d16c0.gif)
Title: Re: 13-PIN PLUG & SOCKET DUST COVERS
Post by: frummox on September 12, 2016, 03:19:50 PM
Bill, Mr. Dust and Mr. Dirt seem to have a British accent. Who knew (pesky foreigners!) ;D