Do people record emulated bass instead of real bass?

Started by Redvers, September 15, 2017, 02:30:58 AM

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Redvers

I really like the bass models on the GP-10, and it's a lot easier and quicker to record basslines that way. I'm just wondering how successful people have been with it?

Redvers

Good stuff, I don't think I'd know if nobody told me.

DreamTheory

Yes, but that led to increasing curiosity about real bass, so I finally got a cheap bass from rondomusic.com and put a gk B on it. Had to move a knob on pick guard plate, easy peasy. The bass model on 6 string totally works in studio and live, but  Real bass engenders better bass lines. Plus the bass mode in GR55 is another world. You are missing out on a lot of crazy fun without accessing bass mode. PS you can plug a bass into the regular gk3 on your guitar to access amp and fx, until you get a gk b for your bass.
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rolandvg99

#3
My real bass is gathering dust. GP-10 and VG-99 does the job perfectly.



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Kevin M

I recently started working on bass parts, originally using my VG-99 to model them. Sounded great, but lacked the feel of a real bass, so I wound up buying a cheap one at Sweetwater...this one:

https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/JagBsVM3TS

Great bass considering its price-point!

If feel isn't important, a GP-10 or VG-99 will give you a convincing bass guitar sound in the mix.

shawnb

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gumtown

#6
Quote from:  Elantric



which was actually a keyboard playing a 360 Systems MIDIBass

From the horses mouth (literally)
Free "GR-55 FloorBoard" editor software from https://sourceforge.net/projects/grfloorboard/

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joo1

Yes, but you need a little tweak bass, adding the bottom ...
Here are some examples :)



pasha811

As a former Bass Player, I still record using my Cort Curbow Bass. The Bass strings, bigger than guitar strings, offer to my ears a better feel than any emulated version. I have used emulated synth bass occasionally though.
VG99 takes part into that as sometimes I use it for Bass multiFX primarily octaver, defretter and chorus with a slight compression or limiter when appropriate.
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admin_shawnb

When my bass player passes out, I often pick up bass responsibilities on my guitar either using the "Acoustic Bass" patch (which I think is stock on VG-99 & GR-55) or my "John Wetton" patch (I have similar patches on VG-99 & GR-55):
https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=8108.msg57549#msg57549

The John Wetton patch (with a bit of OD kicked in it sounds like Tool) is very easy - I think I just took a P-bass COSM (Fender Precision) and added enough gain to give it definition & edge.

szilard

I use the VG-99 to record bass. I've started to develop some synth bass sounds on the GR-55 so they may get recorded in the future.

germanicus

I have used vg99/gr55 in the past for bass parts, but usually use my 5 string or fretless bass now.
My albums done with modeling/guitar synth at http://music.steamtheory.com

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aliensporebomb

I've got VG-99 and GP-10 bass patches but also own an Ibanez six string bass with active electronics for occasions where real bass guitar is warranted.
My music projects online at http://www.aliensporebomb.com/

GK Devices:  Roland VG-99, Boss GP-10, Boss SY-1000.

chrish

#14
Quote from: aliensporebomb on September 17, 2017, 07:38:11 PM
I've got VG-99 and GP-10 bass patches but also own an Ibanez six string bass with active electronics for occasions where real bass guitar is warranted.
I also have an Ibanez 6 string bass which is tuned to a standard guitar tuning to make it easy to play. Had to buy the several of right gauge strings to make it happen but now I understand they come set up to be tuned that way.

On my 8 string Ibanez guitar I finally had to take a black Sharpie  to change the color of the two extra bass strings in order to be able to see the regular six string guitar patterns for chords and scales.

Tony Raven

I play both guitar & bass. Different animals, really, at least IMO. ;)

If I want precision, nothing beats keyboard (or programming). Most of my synths (Roland, naturally) have very nice bass voices.

But when I want some actual swing to the bassline, nothing beats an actual purpose-made bass.

For fill-in onstage -- your bassist doubles out for a tune, say -- nothing at all wrong with using the at-hand tools.
Quote from: chrish on September 17, 2017, 07:45:49 PMI also have an Ibanez 6 string bass which is tuned to a standard guitar tuning to make it easy to play.
I've never quite understood that. I've worked with a dozen guitarists who thought they could double on bass, but were entirely unable to deal with my various fives (Ibanez, Washburn, Mortenson...) because that big B kept tripping them up. They were wholly unable to deal with anything other than an E at "the top of the stack."

Many sessions of playing behind guitarists who gravitate toward rooting everything in E. :( As I like to have the option to "step up" to the root (here, from D or Eb), standard four-string tuning means I'm basically stuck doubling their root -- thus directly competing sonically -- rather than properly (IMO again) actually being a bassist. ::)

joo1

#16
I'm trying to record bass with GP 10 ... but it's best to have real bass, and maybe someone knows how to harness bass with GP 10?
My next attempt: