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jodama

Just acquired a GR-50
« on: March 06, 2017, 07:49:06 AM »

I found one of these at a local store, and I'm basically buying any 13-pin stuff I find at the moment (also grabbed a GR-D which I'll address elsewhere), so I picked it up.

I have to say, I think this thing is pretty underrated. Or maybe it's not? How do people feel about it?

In addition to PCM, it has an actual sound creating synth engine inside of it (LA synthesis), and as far as I know it's the only 13 pin synth that does. Most of the others are PCM only (which is fine...just different), unless I'm missing something? I know the GP-10 has a subtractive-style oscillator synth, but it seems kind of tacked on as an afterthought.

I'm not even close to understanding how to program the GR-50, but I'm really enjoying it so far. The tracking is pretty good too. There are missed notes here and there, but overall it's impressive for 1989 tech. It's definitely way better than it would be if I were controlling a D-110 (more or less same synth engine) with a guitar-MIDI converter, so there's that.

Is anyone else actively using one of these? Any programming tips/tricks?
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chrish

Re: Just acquired a GR-50
« Reply #1 on: March 06, 2017, 08:18:49 PM »

My gr50 tracks pitch to midi with less glitching than my vg99 through the 5 pin midi out.

it also tracks it's internal sounds quite well. That DiMeola pan pipe sound that he used with an acoustic ovation guitar is in there.

On the King Crimson 'Discipline' alblum, Adreian Bellew, used the gr50 and created many unusual sounds.  i think that the elephant sound  is the gr50.

It's a bear to program
however.

It has a fast guitar tuner. 
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alexmcginness

Re: Just acquired a GR-50
« Reply #2 on: March 07, 2017, 12:04:42 PM »

Ive got one too. It works well. Been using mine since they first came out.
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BackDAWman

Re: Just acquired a GR-50
« Reply #3 on: March 08, 2017, 05:39:09 AM »

I've got one too. It maybe slower than a Gr55 but is surprisingly glitch free. Fun to play.

jodama

Re: Just acquired a GR-50
« Reply #4 on: March 09, 2017, 06:40:22 AM »

Has anyone tried putting Roland D-110 patches on it? I know they have the same engine, but I'm not sure if that is supposed to work or not. My attempts have failed, but my sysex setup is glitchy, and I never know if it's the setup or the synth/patch causing the problems.
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chrish

Re: Just acquired a GR-50
« Reply #5 on: March 09, 2017, 08:56:19 AM »

Roland created some sound cards specfic to the gr-50. Those sounds may be online for free from roland on their site. They also sent me a another bank of sounds on a floppy disk for free, back in the day of that synth.
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Yohanes

Re: Just acquired a GR-50
« Reply #6 on: March 19, 2017, 10:10:16 PM »

I just got mine last week, I use my GK-3 (which work great with my Boss GP-10) to drive the GR-50. I try to set the strings sensitivity in GR-50, but after set to maximum, the signal indicator still cannot reach maximum (I have strummed the guitar hard), so far everything in the GR-50 is working fine, I just feel not comfortable with the GK input signal level is not optimum. Are there somewhere any gain control to increase the GK input signal in the GR-50?

At the GR-50 GK input there is printed GK-2 IN, my question: is GK-2 divided pickup output is hotter than GK-3 output? Because I don't have GK-2 pickup.

Thanks for any information.
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alexmcginness

Re: Just acquired a GR-50
« Reply #7 on: March 20, 2017, 07:58:05 AM »

Has anyone tried putting Roland D-110 patches on it? I know they have the same engine, but I'm not sure if that is supposed to work or not. My attempts have failed, but my sysex setup is glitchy, and I never know if it's the setup or the synth/patch causing the problems.

They will work, but right now I cant remember how I did it. I also have a D-110 and two expansion cards for it. I believe I dumped the memory from the D-110 on to a M-256E card and loaded that into the GR-50 and then dumped it off. Also theres Midiquest that does a librarian for the GR-50. It doesnt work great but it can be noodled with.

Heres a couple of resources for the GR 50

http://www.marksmart.net/sounddesign/bysynth/gr50/gr50.html

https://coffeeshopped.com/patch-base/editor/roland-gr-50
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