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Offline madkingdom

GT-100 Output Selector (solved)
« on: March 02, 2017, 10:33:14 PM »
HI guys!
I'm trying to understand why my output selector does not make any changes to my sound.  i.e: When I'm on my PC, i select Line-Phones, and when connected to my amp head i go for Stack return, the thing is, if i rotate the output option there are no changes in my sound, is still the same no matter where i am connected. PC line-phones, change to ie: stack or combo, and the sound is the same, as when in my amp head, changing output selection and nothing happens. IS there something wrong with my pedal? or am i missing something? Thanks!
« Last Edit: March 20, 2017, 09:24:15 PM by madkingdom »

Offline gumtown

Re: GT-100 Output Selector
« Reply #1 on: March 03, 2017, 12:23:54 AM »
If anything is plugged into the Headphones socket, the GT-100 is forced into "Line/Phones" mode, regardless of the output select setting.
The preamp cabinet sim must be enabled too.
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Offline madkingdom

Re: GT-100 Output Selector
« Reply #2 on: March 03, 2017, 08:25:18 AM »
If anything is plugged into the Headphones socket, the GT-100 is forced into "Line/Phones" mode, regardless of the output select setting.
The preamp cabinet sim must be enabled too.
Thanks for your time. And... no, nothing is connected to the Headphones socket. And about the preamp cabinet sim, do i need to enable it, even when i'm with my amp head connected? Because, i only use the GT100 with my amp just for MOD fx, maybe some compressor, but no cabinets or amps.
Maybe are we talking about different settings? If i'm right that paramter you're talking is in "preference/ and there are some settings to tweak : 1. Output select (patch or system) 2. Preamp (Patch, Sys 1 ,Sys2 and sys 3) 3. Accel ctl and Exp . How to manage those? and, let me tell you i've been tweaking these and nothing changes. SO is weird i think.
Any help will be much appreciated
« Last Edit: March 03, 2017, 08:35:10 AM by madkingdom »

Offline madkingdom

Re: GT-100 Output Selector
« Reply #3 on: March 15, 2017, 06:59:11 PM »
Things getting more complicated, each time i try those settings. I managed "somehow" to change the "output" and notice differences in sound. But Only 2 times. for two patches.
 System 1 and 2 were used, and anything i try new is not working. NOt even on patch. I dont know what is wrong here.  If i go to my patch  the output is : Stack return, but i move the knob and the sound does not changes. OK then i try my 2nd patch, same result, system 1 or 2  not working, same sound, got o output shows : Stack return, move the knob ie: Line or whatever...no change in sound... please guys help me!

Offline gumtown

Re: GT-100 Output Selector
« Reply #4 on: March 15, 2017, 08:00:27 PM »
Output select differences will be dependant on preamp and speaker cabinet being enabled.

Also depending on how your GT-100 s setup, if using the S/R loop and an external preamp.

How have you got the GT-100 connected?
If you are using the GT-100 preamps, then you will want to bypass the preamp in your external amp, by plugging the GT-100 L/Mono output into the amp's FX return.

If you are using a guitar speaker cabinet, the differences heard in Output select type will be minimal. compared to using a full range power monitor or P.A /desk. 
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Offline madkingdom

Re: GT-100 Output Selector
« Reply #5 on: March 15, 2017, 09:30:39 PM »
Output select differences will be dependant on preamp and speaker cabinet being enabled.

Also depending on how your GT-100 s setup, if using the S/R loop and an external preamp.

How have you got the GT-100 connected?
If you are using the GT-100 preamps, then you will want to bypass the preamp in your external amp, by plugging the GT-100 L/Mono output into the amp's FX return.

If you are using a guitar speaker cabinet, the differences heard in Output select type will be minimal. compared to using a full range power monitor or P.A /desk.

Im using the 4CM, with a Marshall DSl 100h and a Randall Cabinet 4*10, im not using my GT-100 pre amps, i only use for Modulation FX like chorus, delays and reverbs. MY S/R is ON, and before it (in the chain) is nothing, only After, where my (delays, reverbds and som EQ's ) are.
Thanks for your time!

Offline madkingdom

Re: GT-100 Output Selector
« Reply #6 on: March 18, 2017, 11:28:57 AM »
So, is there an answer for this issue?
Any clues guys?
PLease help! This is some irritating, confusing and weird.   
Last results :
 *reset to factory system settings not helps
 *system 1 2 3 and patch dont work.
 *i dont have any preamps (ON) in the chain
 *im using the 4cm
 *not even using the GT-100 with my pc, the Output selector works.
 *i've tried plug inn-out the Headphones (output).
 *only twice managed to change sound, when system 1 and 2 were used with 2 of my patches, after that nothing happened.
 *is there some tutorial for this? the manual is poor, and there are no clues on the internet about it.
 *i know this settings only change (EQ for output) some more brighter, others more dark, but is frustrating not been able to chyange sound or settings and make things right
 ??? ??? ??? ??? ???

Offline Elantric

Re: GT-100 Output Selector
« Reply #7 on: March 18, 2017, 11:39:06 AM »
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*i dont have any preamps (ON) in the chain


I believe that is your answer

With no COSM Preamps engaged , the Output Mode has no function

Offline madkingdom

Re: GT-100 Output Selector
« Reply #8 on: March 18, 2017, 12:03:21 PM »

I believe that is your answer

With no COSM Preamps engaged , the Output Mode has no function

SO I'm using the 4cm and i still need the COSM preamps? the thing is, if i want my preamp sound (my marshall dsl 100) and use only FX for the boss GT-100, then what is for that Return Stack option output? DO i need to enable those preamps on the GT-100 ?  thanks

ok ok, im getting this, the output selector is just a Simulation isnt? so if im working with a real Pre amp, there's no use for those settings...am i right? So the final veredict could be, "do not mess with those settings, unless you want to sim a pre-amp". Hope this is waht im looking for, and some users too.

If you can calrify the whole idea, will be much aprreciated.

Keep on rockin' ¬m/
« Last Edit: March 18, 2017, 12:16:50 PM by madkingdom »

Offline gumtown

Re: GT-100 Output Selector
« Reply #9 on: March 18, 2017, 02:00:06 PM »
Output Select is only active when using the GT-100 preamps, so if you don't use the preamps, output select options have no effect on your tone.
The Output select is only so the preamp used has the correct simulation properties for a selected output scenario.

System 1,2,3 are global preamps, so when you had system 1 & 2 selected, you forced the global GT-100 preamps into use, which also enabled the Output select.

Without the preamps, using the GT-100 for effects only (with or without 4CM) will produce a flat and un-coloured output, so an Output select option is of no use.
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Offline madkingdom

Re: GT-100 Output Selector
« Reply #10 on: March 20, 2017, 09:23:39 PM »
 ;) Thanks, tedious weeks have been! ;D


But now i am happy with the results... this is all about it. :o

Thanks again, hope more people could read this, and share thoughts!

Rock on ¬m/

 

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