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Re: Fishman Tripleplay - East-West Samples for FTP
« Reply #25 on: February 20, 2017, 10:07:18 AM »

So I'm thinking of finally pulling the trigger on the FTP. Should I wait till this release comes out or nab it with the NI software. I find all the NI software install and registration fiasco aggravating but will it be easier with E/W and will there be a big difference in the quality of the software in either or.
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Re: Fishman Tripleplay - East-West Samples for FTP
« Reply #26 on: March 03, 2017, 04:20:30 AM »

because i'm so impatient i went to the east west website today and it says "coming this month" on the homepage for EW for TP.
i'm sure you lot already knew that... but here is the link for anyone else that wants to drool... at a banner... am i really that sad? Yup!

http://www.soundsonline.com

not long now then!
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Re: Fishman Tripleplay - East-West Samples for FTP
« Reply #27 on: March 04, 2017, 08:31:27 AM »

I've a question:  East&West is a  Sampler that plays midi message received by FTP, why this plug in should not be used by different midi generator also (Roland GK system based or others) ?

Or these East&West plugins are strictly coded with FTP Software interface on PC/Mac ?

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Re: Fishman Tripleplay - East-West Samples for FTP
« Reply #28 on: March 04, 2017, 10:22:34 AM »

I've a question:  East&West is a  Sampler that plays midi message received by FTP, why this plug in should not be used by different midi generator also (Roland GK system based or others) ?

Or these East&West plugins are strictly coded with FTP Software interface on PC/Mac ?

Maan108

I don't see why they would not be able to work with any midi controller. Though the settings for the instruments may be tweaked a bit for midi guitar, they appear to be mostly repackaged packs of their existing sound libraries. Curious to find out the price of these packs as the existing packs are quite hefty. 
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Re: Fishman Tripleplay - East-West Samples for FTP
« Reply #29 on: March 08, 2017, 03:51:47 PM »

Bummer that it's still ... vaporware.  An early tease, with a late delivery.......  and no word to us on release date.
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Re: Fishman Tripleplay - East-West Samples for FTP
« Reply #30 on: March 23, 2017, 10:23:17 AM »

According to the Fishman folks I talk to a this past Winter NAMM, the pricing is going be pretty agreessive in terms of what you are going to get.  It looks like they are getting closer to launching this.  March is almost over!
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Re: Fishman Tripleplay - East-West Samples for FTP
« Reply #31 on: March 23, 2017, 10:41:55 AM »

Typically $299-$399 per package is typical for East-West Sample packages - I expect similar pricing
https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/SymphChoirsG

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Re: Fishman Tripleplay - East-West Samples for FTP
« Reply #32 on: March 23, 2017, 11:29:24 AM »

Forgive me, but my B.S. detector just went crazy when I saw this phrase: "designed to take advantage of the complex and unique waveforms produced by a guitar’s vibrating strings."  What exactly does that jibber-jabber mean?  We are talking pitch to midi here, and not harmonic restructure modelling. Astounding.
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Re: Fishman Tripleplay - East-West Samples for FTP
« Reply #33 on: March 23, 2017, 11:36:32 AM »

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What exactly does that jibber-jabber mean?

It means they spent many hours working on sound libraries optimized for the Tripleplay

( Hammer Ons, Hammer offs, Legato playing,  separate MIDI channel per string for multi string bending, etc - issues which rarely manifest when using a typical MIDI Keyboard controller.
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Re: Fishman Tripleplay - East-West Samples for FTP
« Reply #34 on: March 23, 2017, 12:18:15 PM »

Kind of bummed... I just looked at the list and no SAXES ... which is what I am really looking for
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Re: Fishman Tripleplay - East-West Samples for FTP
« Reply #35 on: March 23, 2017, 02:00:21 PM »

It means they spent many hours working on sound libraries optimized for the Tripleplay

( Hammer Ons, Hammer offs, Legato playing,  separate MIDI channel per string for multi string bending, etc - issues which rarely manifest when using a typical MIDI Keyboard controller.

East-west already accomodates six channel midi in omni mode, legato playing, etc.  I still can't see this as anything but sampler packs of their existing instrument packs. All they did was select existing sounds in their sound libraries that play nice with guitar midi controllers.  Let's not hype this into something more than it is. 
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Re: Fishman Tripleplay - East-West Samples for FTP
« Reply #36 on: March 23, 2017, 02:54:11 PM »

UGH, April >:( Bastions!
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Re: Fishman Tripleplay - East-West Samples for FTP
« Reply #37 on: April 08, 2017, 07:02:15 AM »

Any update on the status? Been almost 4 months. :)

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Re: Fishman Tripleplay - East-West Samples for FTP
« Reply #38 on: April 10, 2017, 10:14:14 AM »

On their website (http://www.soundsonline.com/midi-guitar-series) they show the Midi guitar Series, Vol. 1 to Vol. 5.

Does that mean they will sell those packages separately, or they will bundle some or all?
Pretty sure, no one knows the answer for now, but just asking in case!

And, if any East-West guys read this forum, I will be first in line for a "good" bundle!
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Re: Fishman Tripleplay - East-West Samples for FTP
« Reply #39 on: April 10, 2017, 10:23:13 AM »

i understand Fishman  / East West intends to sell various different packages with different capabilities and different focus of instruments.



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http://www.soundsonline.com/midi-guitar-series


These new EastWest MIDI Guitar Instruments, from producers Doug Rogers and Nick Phoenix, differ from the current EastWest virtual instruments, which are optimized for keyboards, in that they have been selected and designed to take advantage of the complex and unique waveforms produced by a guitar’s vibrating strings. These five titles cover a wide range of musical styles and instrument families.

"We have been testing MIDI guitar systems for years, and the Fishman TriplePlay Wireless MIDI Guitar Controller is the best in class," says EastWest producer Doug Rogers. "So EastWest and Fishman worked closely together, re-programming the instruments and making adjustments to the software specifically for the Fishman MIDI Guitar Controller. It all works incredibly well as you can hear in the video we produced. In fact, it opens up a whole new world for guitar players who have been grappling with decades-old technology. I know many of our users consider themselves to be guitar players first, so they will now be able to compose 'anything' using their preferred instrument, instead of a keyboard."

Fishman founder and president, Larry Fishman states, "The opportunity of collaborating with EastWest is very exciting for not only our two companies, but also for guitarists who are looking to explore new avenues of creativity and sound. EastWest virtual instruments are the choice of top music, film, TV, and gaming performers and composers. We worked with the EastWest team to expand the TriplePlay orbit of guitar-optimized, easily accessed and compatible virtual instruments that will build on the already formidable list of TriplePlay features and benefits."


PRODUCED BY DOUG ROGERS AND NICK PHOENIX




MIDI Guitar Series Vol 1: Orchestra
MIDI Guitar Series Vol 1: Orchestral is comprised of 190 instruments divided into 4 categories: Strings, Brass, Woodwinds, and Percussion. In total, this volume contains over 18 GB of 16 bit / 44.1 kHz samples. Spanning the multi-award winning virtual instrument collection of Symphonic Orchestra, these instruments were recorded by 11-time Grammy nominated classical recording engineer Prof. Keith O. Johnson, now redesigned especially for use with MIDI guitar controllers.

INSTRUMENTS INCLUDED (190):

STRINGS (72): 3 Cellos, 4 Violins, 9 Double Basses (6), 10 Cellos (7), 10 Violas (7), 11 Violins ( 8 ), 18 Violins (7), Harp (3), Harpsichord, Large String Ensemble (6), Solo Cello (7), Solo Contrabass (6), Solo Viola (5), Solo Violin (7). BRASS (50): 2 Trumpets (4), 3 Wagner Tuben (2), 4 Trombones (5), 4 Trumpets (3), 6 French Horns (6), Solo French Horn (4), Solo Piccolo Trumpet (3), Solo Trombone (5), Solo Trumpet 1 (4), Solo Trumpet 2 (9), Solo Tuba (5). WOODWINDS (55): 3 Clarinets (2), 3 Flutes (4), 3 Oboes (4), Solo Alto Flute (5), Solo Bass Clarinet (5), Solo Bassoon (5), Solo Clarinet (6), Solo Contrabassoon (5), Solo English Horn (4), Solo English Horn 2 (3), Solo Flute (5), Solo Oboe (4), Solo Piccolo Flute (3). PERCUSSION (13): Bass Drum Concert, Castanets, Church Organ, Cymbals, Zildjan Crash, Field Ensemble, Gong, Marimba, Orchestra Chimes, Timpani Hits, Triangle, Vibraphone, Woodblock Symphony.




MIDI Guitar Series Vol 2: Ethnic and Voices
MIDI Guitar Series Vol 2: Ethnic and Voices is comprised of 120 instruments divided into 4 categories: Bowed, Plucked, Voices, and Wind. In total, this volume contains over 17 GB of 16 bit / 44.1 kHz samples. Comprised from multiple award winning virtual instrument collections that includes Ra, Silk, Voices of Passion, Ghostwriter, Fab Four and Goliath, these instruments have been redesigned specifically for MIDI guitar controllers.

INSTRUMENTS INCLUDED (120):

BOWED (19): 30pc String Section (3), Baritone Violin (2), Dilruba, Electric Cello (2), Erhu, Esraj, Jin Hu, Kemenche, Middle Eastern Fiddle (3), Sarangi, Sarod, Tar, Zhong Hu. PLUCKED (27): Banjo (3), Guzheng (4), Kora, Koto, Mandolin, Pipa (4), Qanun, Santoor (4), Shamisen, Sitar (3), Swarmandel (2), Tambura, Yangqin. VOICES (28): America Oh, Boys Chorus Oh, Fem Vox Aahs ( 8 ), Fem Vox Oohs (6), Full Chorus Ah, Full Chorus Oh, India Elements, Male Vox Aahs (4), Male Vox Oohs (3), Syria Elements, Wales Legato Ah. WIND (46): Alpenhorn (2), Bag Pipe Ensemble (2), Bandoneon, Bansuri (3), Bass Recorder, Bawu (2), Campana Accordian (3), Didgeridoo Drones (2), Dizi (4), Duduk (5), Excelsior Accordian (3), First Nations Cedar Flute, Irish Low Whistle, Lucy in the Lowery Organ, Ney (4), Pan Flute (2), Shakuhachi (2), Sheng, Suona (2), Xiao (4).

PRODUCED BY DOUG ROGERS AND NICK PHOENIX

PRODUCED BY DOUG ROGERS AND NICK PHOENIX



MIDI Guitar Series Vol 3: Soundscapes
MIDI Guitar Series Vol 3: Soundscapes is comprised of 72 instruments. In total, this volume contains over 11 GB of 16 bit / 44.1 kHz samples. Spanning multiple award winning virtual instrument collections including Ghostwriter, Goliath, The Dark Side, these instruments have been redesigned specifically for MIDI guitar controllers.

INSTRUMENTS INCLUDED (72):

Andreus Kugelschreiber, Astral Pad, Backwards Distorted Guitar (2), Backwardspeil, Bird of Peace, Cambot, Chi and Chang, Colossus Pad, Crystal Tower, CS80 Orchestra, Deep Breathing, Dhali Pad, Distorted Cello Ethereal (2), Ebow Guitar (3), Electric Medieval, Ethereal, Ethnic Dulcimer, Fallen, Freak Shimmer (3), Furry Ethnic Orchestra, FX (Atmosphere), FX (Brightness), FX (Crystal), FX (Soundtrack), Gamelan Box (2), Heartstone, Les Dulcimer (3), Les Sitar Spacey (2), Leslie Choir Wide, Mandamadness, Men From Manilla Pad, Neptune Strings, Old Bombay, Pad 1 (New Age), Perc Sci-Fi, Proc Bells Spacey, Progsichord (2), Rivensong, Sigur Guitar (5), Snake Charmer, Spiritual Warrior, Stone Therapy, Sultan, Sundial, Synth Strings, Time Guitar (4), Traveller, UFO Choir, Weeping Dragon, Weird Celesta (3), X-mas Pad, Zitherland.



MIDI Guitar Series Vol 4: Guitar and Bass
MIDI Guitar Series Vol 4: Guitar and Bass is comprised of 94 instruments divided into 2 categories: Guitar and Bass. In total, this volume contains nearly 38 GB of 16 bit / 44.1 kHz samples. In addition to the instruments redesigned for MIDI guitar controllers from award winning collections of Ministry of Rock 1 & 2, The Dark Side, Ghostwriter, and Fab Four. This volume also contains two new guitars, one acoustic and one electric. These two guitars have been deeply sampled and include the entire range of notes on each string, giving even more flexibility when used with MIDI guitar controllers. Use the electric with the built in Amp Simulator with it’s 80 Amp Presets.

INSTRUMENTS INCLUDED (94):

GUITAR (54): 7 String Ibanez (2), Arp Les Guitar, Baritone Monolithic, Danelectro Baritone (2), Nylon String Classical Guitar (2), Dirty Leslie Guitar (2), Distorted Telecaster, Django hollow-body Jazz (2), Fano Electric Guitar (2), Nylon String Flamenco Guitar (2), Guitars On Mars, Epiphone Casino/Fender Stratocaster “I Want Guitar” (doubled), 1966 Martin D28 Acoustic “I’m A Blackbird Guitar” (2), Fender Jaguar (3), Les Paul Guitar (7), LoFi Crunch (3), Vintage Les Paul Deluxe (2), Martin D28 Acoustic (2), Nasal Guitar, Octave Distortion (3), Schecter C7 Hellraiser 7-String Guitar (2), Spanish Steel Guitar (2), 1972 Telecaster Thinline Guitar (3), Rickenbacker 360-12 “Ticket to Guitar”, 1890 Washburn Guitar (4). BASS (40): 1961 Fender Jazz Fretless (2), 1966 Danelectro Silvertone (2), 1972 Rickenbacker 4003, Bass Hemorrhage, Bass Snatchers, Destroyer Bass, Distorted Attack Bass, Fender Precision Bass (3), Fuzz Bass, Lakland 55-94 Skyline Standard (2), Mean Synth Bass, Vintage Musicman, Nuclear Bass, Obliterator Bass, Perc Bass, Radioactive, Rattly Bass, Relatively Clean Bass, Spector Bass (13), Stingray 5 String (2), Tunnel Bass (2).

PRODUCED BY DOUG ROGERS AND NICK PHOENIX





MIDI Guitar Series Vol 5: Keyboards and Percussion
MIDI Guitar Series Vol 5: Keys and Percussion is comprised of 91 instruments divided into 2 categories: Keyboards and Percussion. In total, this volume contains nearly 23 GB of 16 bit / 44.1 kHz samples. These instruments are redesigned specifically for MIDI guitar controllers and are comprised of multiple award winning virtual instrument collections that includes Ghostwriter, The Dark Side, Goliath, Fab Four, Ministry Of Rock, and ProDrummer.

INSTRUMENTS INCLUDED (96):

KEYS (78): Armadeus Organ, B3 Full Organ, B3 Jazz Organ (3), B3 Soul Organ (3), Baby I’m A Clavioline (2), Because I’m A Harpsichord, Bent Funeral Organ, Brain Damage, Celeste, Chaos, Chorus Strings, Church Organ, Clavinet Leslie (4), Clavinet/Lowery Organ Leslie (6), CP-80 (2), Death Piano Nasal, Distorted Cello Ethereal, Distorted Hammond, Distorted Organ, Evil Piano (3), Farfisa (4), Floyd Piano (7), Fuzzy Keys, Glockenspiel and Vibes (2), Glockenspiel, GS-1 Hybrid Piano, GS-1 Rhodes Boosted-Tone, GS-1 EP1 (2), Harpsichord, Madonna Piano, Marimba, Mellotron Strings (2), Music Box, Pin Piano (3), Psychedelic Rhodes, Psycho Shimmer Keys (2), Rhodes 88 Suitcase, Steinway B Piano, Strawberry Flutes, Tunnel Keys (2), Tutti Fluti, Underwater Piano, Vibraphone, We Can Work A Harmonium (2), Xylophone. PERCUSSION (18): Ludwig kit, 60’s Kit, Dirt kit, Funk Kit 2, Rock Kit 2, 11 Bowl Gongs, 12 ft Log Drums, Dynasty O Daiko, Earthquake Ensemble, Gamelan Ensemble Tuned, Large African Djembe, Lion Drum Ensemble Hits, Lord of the Toms Ensemble, Middle Earth Ensemble, Moroccan Darubaka, Pharoahs Dumbek, Punjabi Dhol, Tabla Guru.
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Re: Fishman Tripleplay - East-West Samples for FTP
« Reply #40 on: April 11, 2017, 04:40:58 PM »

Any update on the status? Been almost 4 months. :)

Patrick

I suspect the hangup is on the Fishman side. They will likely need to release an update to their software to be compatible with the new sound libraries. They have not updated the beta for the 64bit version of their software since they released it in December.
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Re: Fishman Tripleplay - East-West Samples for FTP
« Reply #41 on: April 16, 2017, 10:07:41 AM »

An Ebay shop is already listing the Midi Guitar series as available at $179 for each pack. Can't vouch for the legitimacy of this shop. Search for "eastwest midi guitar" and you'll see it. That comes to $895 for all five packs. 

Edit:  Ebay shop just took it out of their store.
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Re: Fishman Tripleplay - East-West Samples for FTP
« Reply #42 on: April 27, 2017, 05:35:13 AM »

Sweetwater is now listing it for sale for $179 per pack:
https://www.sweetwater.com/store/detail/MidiGtrVol2

Edit: Sweetwater also pulled it from being for sale--now says "coming soon."  At least we know the price will be $179 per pack.
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Re: Fishman Tripleplay - East-West Samples for FTP
« Reply #43 on: May 02, 2017, 10:40:01 AM »

East-West new Midi Guitar synths will be available for purchase May 15, as per their website:
http://www.soundsonline.com/midi-guitar-series

You can also add your E-mail to their mailing list to be notified.
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Re: Fishman Tripleplay - East-West Samples for FTP
« Reply #44 on: May 15, 2017, 12:32:26 PM »

Looks like the release has been delayed again, the "available May 15" banner has been removed!  >:(
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Re: Fishman Tripleplay - East-West Samples for FTP
« Reply #45 on: May 16, 2017, 07:10:55 AM »

yep, looks like its delayed again, and with the advertised prices found before, $179 per set, my interest levels are waining.

If, as expected, these are sounds they already have (from existing sets) that they are repackaging to make more midi guitar friendly, they should have IMO made it a no brainer for everyone with tripleplay.



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Re: Fishman Tripleplay - East-West Samples for FTP
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Re: Fishman Tripleplay - East-West Samples for FTP
« Reply #47 on: May 16, 2017, 04:20:03 PM »

That price is on the Sweetwater website. No info on when it will be available
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Re: Fishman Tripleplay - East-West Samples for FTP
« Reply #48 on: May 16, 2017, 10:01:25 PM »

It is some what disappointing to me the Fishman website has no information about
East west or software upgrades,triple talk seems to be dead in the water.
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Re: Fishman Tripleplay - East-West Samples for FTP
« Reply #49 on: May 17, 2017, 08:28:28 AM »

It is some what disappointing to me the Fishman website has no information about
East west or software upgrades,triple talk seems to be dead in the water.

I've always been dumbfounded by Fishman's apparent lack of responsiveness and general support of the Triple Play. Few updates, Tripletalk is forever out of date, no real timely news or information. That has been frustrating because I thought the Triple play is such a great product with so much potential.


From what I've seen historically from them, the market for the Triple play must be a lot smaller than I would have thought. They don't seem to be able to dedicate many resources to it. The did have a representative who posted here regularly some time back, but before that there was next to nothing outside of a few initial how-to videos.

Unfortunately, I’ve seen the same thing from other music gear manufacturers: TC Electronic & their multi-effect devices; Roland/Boss and most of their products. The business model seems to be: Put out a product, maybe do one update years later (if that), but otherwise forget about it and move on to the next product.

You better be happy with how units work right out of the box because you can’t count on any future updates or bug fixes from most companies.
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