GT-100 - Patch creating - in general...

Started by Kenni, June 09, 2016, 07:32:11 AM

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Kenni

Hi there, peepz!

I'm new to this forum, but not new to the GT effect boards!
For the last 2-3 years I've been using the GT-10 as my main board, both at gigs and rehearsals.
That've been working very well and I've gotten som good results, I think.
I also own a GT-PRO and GT-100, and plan to take them on the road too!

In all the years using the GT modellers I've always found it fairly easy to create a patch and kind of get the tone that I'm after.
Though, sometimes it's harder than other, you know the struggle.

I then have a couple of questions for you guys here, regarding making patches and going for the desired sound.
I know that no one does it the same way as the next one..

First, a little info about how I use the GT modellers live and at rehearsals...
I run the GT modellers in stereo straight to our PA/desk. I therefore use the built-in amps and cabs.
My signal chain would be like this: Guitar --> GT-100 --> Radial ProD2 DI --> PA/desk.

1 - How do you normally go about making a new patch?

2 - How much time do you guys spend on making a patch or a couple of patches?
Do you go all in and don't stop till it's there, or something completely else?

3 - If you're planning on using the patch(es) live with your band, are there anything to take into consideration then?

4 - How about level matching and unity gain? Is that something you take into consideration too?
You know, making your patches have the same volume, so that the volume doesn't jump up or down when switching back and forth between patches/presets..
Please, tell me something about this, if you do!

Thanks - I'm looking forward to reading your replies!

Elantric

#1
Even long time GT users will benefit by reading these docs located in the Tutorials area

Answers you seek and various strategies are explained in detail and located  within this thread:

Programming Roland/Boss COSM FX
https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=88.0

specifically

Roland COSM  - In Depth understanding can be gained by reading these in depth documents on Rolands top COSM product of 2004, the Roland GS-10.


Roland GS-10 COSM dynamic processor
https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=88.0;attach=68

Roland GS-10 COSM Speaker
https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=88.0;attach=69

Boss_GT-x_Set-up_v02.pdf
https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=88.0;attach=462

Boss_GT-8 Brilliance.pdf
https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=88.0;attach=464

More tips which are equally useful go Boss Gt owners
http://www.xycl.de/en/guitar-effects/boss-gt.html



Kenni

Thanks for the documents and the reading!

One thing I really still don't get is Level matching and the Unity Gain scenario...

There's a document for the GT-3/5 on Level Matching and some other stuff, but it totally makes no sense at all?
I bet it doesn't apply to the GT-10/100...

If it's not to much of a problem, could someone please help me here?
A good and simple explanation.. That would really help me!

Thanks!

Elantric

#3
QuoteThere's a document for the GT-3/5 on Level Matching and some other stuff, but it totally makes no sense at all?
I bet it doesn't apply to the GT-10/100...

Actually it applies to every DSP modeler, as its always crucial to understand the Gain structure of each Block (FX), (Amp), (Cab)

It was easier on the older gear (GT-5) as these incorporated VU Meters on each stage


Read all other URL links provided in

Programming Roland/Boss COSM FX
https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=88.0

Even the links to Line-6 gear , as the same basic concepts for Patch Creation on DSP Modelers are important to grasp and understand.

Compared to getting a sound with old school analog stomp boxes feeding a Fender Twin back in 1980's where things just sound better when all is on "11" ,
Its different on DSP Amp Modelers, because you can easily hit a ceiling that renders digital clipping if you are not careful with the settings.