GR-55 Control Assignments

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mbenigni

Is this possible?  I'm trying to set map the GK volume knob to Amp Gain (min 0, max 120), but I'd like to be able to compensate by boosting Amp Level as I roll back on gain, i.e. a second assign to the GK Volume, for Amp Level - say min 80, max 60.  The idea is to use a max < min in order to invert the control, same sort of trick I've used with DAWs and VSTs since forever.  However this isn't working.  Are multiple assigns against one physical device not supported?  Or is it the max < min that's messing things up?  Or am I missing something even more obvious.  Is anyone else able to pull this off in any way?

Thanks!

mbenigni

Never mind, I think I got it - momentary vs. toggle (which I thought would be ignored for GK Vol) were tripping me up.

Wow.  This is a REALLY cool way to use the GK Volume knob!  :D

gumtown

Yes - remember to set the Source Mode to "Momentary" when using any kind of variable controller, as opposed to a switch on/off action.
Although a toggle action could be handy if you want a third assign to toggle in every second time the GK knob is turned up/down.
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JCcares

QuoteI'm trying to set map the GK volume knob to Amp Gain (min 0, max 120),

So is it possible to set the GK volume to amp gain?

gumtown

Quote from: JCcares on May 17, 2011, 07:27:30 PM
So is it possible to set the GK volume to amp gain?
Yes, you can set the GK volume to do almost anything (8 different things at the same time) with use of the Assigns too.

With the Master GK-Vol setting you can do this
Off
Patch Volume
Tone Volume
Pitch Bend
Modulation
Cross Fader
Delay Level
Reverb Level
Chorus Level
Mod Control


or if you use an Assign (up to 8 of them) you can use any of these settings on the GK Volume

PCM1 Tone Switch
PCM1 Tone Number
PCM1 Tone Level
PCM1 Tone Octave
PCM1 Tone Chromatic
PCM1 Tone Legato
PCM1 Tone Lev Velo Sens
PCM1 Tone Velo Curve Type
PCM1 Tone Nuance Sw
PCM1 Tone Pan
PCM1 Tone String Lev 1
PCM1 Tone String Lev 2
PCM1 Tone String Lev 3
PCM1 Tone String Lev 4
PCM1 Tone String Lev 5
PCM1 Tone String Lev 6
PCM1 Pitch Pitch shift
PCM1 Pitch Pitch Fine
PCM1 Pitch Portamento Sw
PCM1 Pitch Portamento Type
PCM1 Pitch Portamento Time
PCM1 Filter Filter Type
PCM1 Filter CutOff
PCM1 Filter Resonance
PCM1 Filter Cutoff Velo Sens
PCM1 Filter Cutoff Nuance Sens
PCM1 Filter Cutoff Velo Curve
PCM1 Filter Cutoff Keyfollow
PCM1 TVF TVF Env Depth
PCM1 TVF TVF Attack Time
PCM1 TVF TVF Decay Time
PCM1 TVF TVF Sustain level
PCM1 TVF TVF Release Time
PCM1 TVF TVF Attack Vel Sens
PCM1 TVF TVF Attack Nuance Sens
PCM1 TVA TVA Attack Time
PCM1 TVA TVA Decay Time
PCM1 TVA  TVA Sustain Level
PCM1 TVA  TVA Release Time
PCM1 TVA TVA Attack Vel Sens
PCM1 TVA TVA Attack Nuance Sens
PCM1 TVA Level Nuance Sens
PCM1 TVA Release Mode
PCM1 Pitch ENV Pitch Env Vel Sens
PCM1 Pitch ENV Pitch Env Depth
PCM1 Pitch ENV Attack Time
PCM1 Pitch ENV Pitch Decay Time
PCM1 LFO1 LFO1 Rate
PCM1 LFO1 LFO1 Pitch Depth
PCM1 LFO1 LFO1 TVF Depth
PCM1 LFO1 LFO1 TVA Depth
PCM1 LFO1 LFO1 Pan Depth
PCM1 LFO2 LFO2 Rate
PCM1 LFO2 LFO2 Pitch Depth
PCM1 LFO2 LFO2 TVF Depth
PCM1 LFO2 LFO2 TVA Depth
PCM1 LFO2 LFO2 Pan Depth
PCM1 Line Select
PCM1 Tone1 Bend
PCM2 Tone Switch
PCM2 Tone Number
PCM2 Tone Level
PCM2 Tone Octave
PCM2 Tone Chromatic
PCM2 Tone Legato
PCM2 Tone Lev Velo Sens
PCM2 Tone Velo Curve Type
PCM2 Tone Nuance Sw
PCM2 Tone Pan
PCM2 Tone String Lev 1
PCM2 Tone String Lev 2
PCM2 Tone String Lev 3
PCM2 Tone String Lev 4
PCM2 Tone String Lev 5
PCM2 Tone String Lev 6
PCM2 Pitch Pitch shift
PCM2 Pitch Pitch Fine
PCM2 Pitch Portamento Sw
PCM2 Pitch Portamento Type
PCM2 Pitch Portamento Time
PCM2 Filter Filter Type
PCM2 Filter CutOff
PCM2 Filter Resonance
PCM2 Filter Cutoff Velo Sens
PCM2 Filter Cutoff Nuance Sens
PCM2 Filter Cutoff Velo Curve
PCM2 Filter Cutoff Keyfollow
PCM2 TVF TVF Env Depth
PCM2 TVF TVF Attack Time
PCM2 TVF TVF Decay Time
PCM2 TVF TVF Sustain level
PCM2 TVF TVF Release Time
PCM2 TVF TVF Attack Vel Sens
PCM2 TVF TVF Attack Nuance Sens
PCM2 TVA TVA Attack Time
PCM2 TVA TVA Decay Time
PCM2 TVA  TVA Sustain Level
PCM2 TVA  TVA Release Time
PCM2 TVA TVA Attack Vel Sens
PCM2 TVA TVA Attack Nuance Sens
PCM2 TVA Level Nuance Sens
PCM2 TVA Release Mode
PCM2 Pitch ENV Pitch Env Vel Sens
PCM2 Pitch ENV Pitch Env Depth
PCM2 Pitch ENV Attack Time
PCM2 Pitch ENV Pitch Decay Time
PCM2 LFO1 LFO1 Rate
PCM2 LFO1 LFO1 Pitch Depth
PCM2 LFO1 LFO1 TVF Depth
PCM2 LFO1 LFO1 TVA Depth
PCM2 LFO1 LFO1 Pan Depth
PCM2 LFO2 LFO2 Rate
PCM2 LFO2 LFO2 Pitch Depth
PCM2 LFO2 LFO2 TVF Depth
PCM2 LFO2 LFO2 TVA Depth
PCM2 LFO2 LFO2 Pan Depth
PCM2 Line Select
PCM2 Tone1 Bend
Modeling Tone Switch
Modeling Tone Number
Modeling Tone Level
Modeling Tone String 1 Level
Modeling Tone String 2 Level
Modeling Tone String 3 Level
Modeling Tone String 4 Level
Modeling Tone String 5 Level
Modeling Tone String 6 Level
Modeling Pitch Pitch Shift
Modeling Pitch Pitch Fine
Modeling 12String Switch
Modeling 12String Direct Level
Modeling 12String Shift 1
Modeling 12String Fine 1
Modeling 12String Shift 2
Modeling 12String Fine 2
Modeling 12String Shift 3
Modeling 12String Fine 3
Modeling 12String Shift 4
Modeling 12String Fine 4
Modeling 12String Shift 5
Modeling 12String Fine 5
Modeling 12String Shift 6
Modeling 12String Fine 6
Modeling E.GTR Cla-ST,Mod-ST PU Select
Modeling E.GTR HH,TE,LP,P9,RK,335,L4 PU Select
Modeling E.GTR LIPS PU Select
Modeling E.GTR PU Volume
Modeling E.GTR PU Tone
Modeling Acoustic Steel body Type
Modeling Acoustic Steel body Body
Modeling Acoustic Steel body Tone
Modeling Acoustic Nylon body Body
Modeling Acoustic Nylon body Attack
Modeling Acoustic Nylon body Tone
Modeling Sitar body PU Select
Modeling Sitar body Sens
Modeling Sitar body Body
Modeling Sitar body Color
Modeling Sitar body Decay
Modeling Sitar body Buzz
Modeling Sitar body Attack Level
Modeling Sitar body Tone
Modeling Banjo body Attack
Modeling Banjo body Reso
Modeling Banjo body Tone
Modeling Resonator body Sustain
Modeling Resonator body Resonance
Modeling Resonator body Tone
Modeling E.Bass Jazz PU Volume Rear
Modeling E.Bass Jazz PU Volume Front
Modeling E.Bass PU Volume
Modeling E.Bass PU Tone
Modeling SYNTH Analog Tone Mode
Modeling SYNTH Analog Tone Comp
Modeling SYNTH Analog Tone Filter Cutoff
Modeling SYNTH Analog Tone Filter Reso
Modeling SYNTH Analog ENV MOD Sw
Modeling SYNTH Analog ENV MOD Sens
Modeling SYNTH Analog ENV MOD Attack
Modeling SYNTH Analog Pitch Sw
Modeling SYNTH Analog Pitch A
Modeling SYNTH Analog Pitch A Fine
Modeling SYNTH Analog Pitch B
Modeling SYNTH Analog Pitch B Fine
Modeling SYNTH Analog Pitch Duet
Modeling SYNTH Analog Pitch Sweep Sw
Modeling SYNTH Analog Pitch Sweep Rise
Modeling SYNTH Analog Pitch Sweep Fall
Modeling SYNTH Analog Vibrato Sw
Modeling SYNTH Analog Vibrato Rate
Modeling SYNTH Analog Vibrato Depth
Modeling SYNTH Wave Synth Type
Modeling SYNTH Wave Synth Color
Modeling SYNTH Filter Bass Filter Cutoff
Modeling SYNTH Filter Bass Filter Reso
Modeling SYNTH Filter Bass Filter Decay
Modeling SYNTH Filter Bass Touch Sens
Modeling SYNTH Filter Bass Color
Modeling SYNTH Crystal Attack Length
Modeling SYNTH Crystal MOD Tune
Modeling SYNTH Crystal MOD Depth
Modeling SYNTH Crystal  Attack Level
Modeling SYNTH Crystal Body Level
Modeling SYNTH Crystal Sustain
Modeling SYNTH Organ Feet 16
Modeling SYNTH Organ Feet 8
Modeling SYNTH Organ Feet 4
Modeling SYNTH Organ Sustain
Modeling SYNTH Brass Filter Cutoff
Modeling SYNTH Brass Filter Reso
Modeling SYNTH Brass Touch Sens
Modeling SYNTH Brass Sustain
Modeling Line Select
Modeling Tone Bend
AMP Switch
AMP Gain
AMP Level
AMP Gain Switch
AMP SOLO Switch
AMP SOLO Level
AMP Tone Bass
AMP Tone Middle
AMP Tone Treble
AMP Tone Presense
AMP Tone Bright
AMP Speaker Type
AMP Spkr Mic Type
AMP Spke Mic Distance
AMP Spkr Mic Position
AMP Spkr Mic Level
MOD Effect Switch
MOD Pan
MOD OD/DS Type
MOD OD/DS Drive
MOD OD/DS Tone
MOD OD/DS Level
MOD WAH Mode
MOD WAH Type
MOD WAH Pedal Position
MOD WAH Sense
MOD WAH Frequency
MOD WAH Peak
MOD WAH Level
MOD COMP Sustain
MOD COMP Attack
MOD COMP Level
MOD LIMITER Threshold
MOD LIMITER Release
MOD LIMITER Level
MOD OCTAVE Effect
MOD OCTAVE Direct
MOD PHASER Type
MOD PHASER Rate
MOD PHASER Depth
MOD PHASER Resonance
MOD PHASER Level
MOD FLANGER Rate
MOD FLANGER Depth
MOD FLANGER Manual
MOD FLANGER Resonance
MOD FLANGER Level
MOD TREMOLO Rate
MOD TREMOLO Depth
MOD TREMOLO Wave Shape
MOD TREMOLO Level
MOD ROTARY Rate Slow
MOD ROTARY Rate Fast
MOD ROTARY Depth
MOD ROTARY Speed Select
MOD ROTARY Level
MOD UNI-V Rate
MOD UNI-V Depth
MOD UNI-V Level
MOD PAN Rate
MOD PAN Depth
MOD PAN Wave Shape
MOD PAN Level
MOD DELAY Type
MOD DELAY Time
MOD DELAY Feedback
MOD DELAY Effect level
MOD CHORUS Type
MOD CHORUS Rate
MOD CHORUS Depth
MOD CHORUS Effect Level
MOD EQ Low Cut
MOD EQ Low Gain
MOD EQ Low-Mid Frequency
MOD EQ Low-Mid Q
MOD EQ Low-Mid Gain
MOD EQ High-Mid Frequency
MOD EQ High-Mid Q
MOD EQ High-Mid Gain
MOD EQ High Gain
MOD EQ High Cut
MOD EQ Level
MOD NS Switch
MOD NS Threshold
MOD NS Release
MFX Switch
MFX Pan
MFX EQ Low Frequency
MFX EQ Low Gain
MFX EQ Mid 1 Frequency
MFX EQ Mid 1 Gain
MFX EQ Mid 1 Q
MFX EQ Mid 2 Frequency
MFX EQ Mid 2 Gain
MFX EQ Mid 2 Q
MFX EQ High Frequency
MFX EQ High Gain
MFX EQ Level
MFX FILTER Type
MFX FILTER Slope
MFX FILTER Cutoff
MFX FILTER Resonance
MFX FILTER Gain
MFX FILTER Modulation Sw
MFX FILTER Modulation Wave
MFX FILTER Rate
MFX FILTER Depth
MFX FILTER Attack
MFX FILTER Level
MFX PHASER Mode
MFX PHASER Manual
MFX PHASER Rate
MFX PHASER Depth
MFX PHASER Polarity
MFX PHASER Resonance
MFX PHASER Cross Feedback
MFX PHASER Mix
MFX PHASER Low Gain
MFX PHASER High Gain
MFX PHASER Level
MFX STEP PHASER Mode
MFX STEP PHASER Manual
MFX STEP PHASER Rate
MFX STEP PHASER Depth
MFX STEP PHASER Polarity
MFX STEP PHASER Resonance
MFX STEP PHASER Cross Feedback
MFX STEP PHASER Step rate
MFX STEP PHASER Mix
MFX STEP PHASER Low Gain
MFX STEP PHASER High Gain
MFX STEP PHASER Level
MFX RING MOD Frequency
MFX RING MOD Sense
MFX RING MOD Polarity
MFX RING MOD Low Gain
MFX RING MOD High Gain
MFX RING MOD Balance
MFX RING MOD Level
MFX TREMOLO Mod Wave
MFX TREMOLO Rate
MFX TREMOLO DEPTH
MFX TREMOLO Low Gain
MFX TREMOLO High Gain
MFX TREMOLO Level
MFX AUTO PAN Mod Wave
MFX AUTO PAN Rate
MFX AUTO PAN Depth
MFX AUTO PAN Low Gain
MFX AUTO PAN High Gain
MFX AUTO PAN Level
MFX SLICER Pattern
MFX SLICER SLICER Rate
MFX SLICER Attack
MFX SLICER Input Sync Sw
MFX SLICER Input Sync Threshold
MFX SLICER Level
MFX VK ROTARY Speed
MFX VK ROTARY Brake
MFX VK ROTARY Woofer Slow Speed
MFX VK ROTARY Woofer Fast Speed
MFX VK ROTARY Woofer Trans Up
MFX VK ROTARY Woofer Trans Down
MFX VK ROTARY Woofer Level
MFX VK ROTARY Tweeter Slow Speed
MFX VK ROTARY Tweeter Fast Speed
MFX VK ROTARY Tweeter Trans Up
MFX VK ROTARY Tweeter Trans Down
MFX VK ROTARY Tweeter level
MFX VK ROTARY Spread
MFX VK ROTARY Low Gain
MFX VK ROTARY High Gain
MFX VK ROTARY Level
MFX HEXA-CHORUS Pre Delay
MFX HEXA-CHORUS Rate
MFX HEXA-CHORUS Depth
MFX HEXA-CHORUS Pre Dly Deviation
MFX HEXA-CHORUS Depth Deviation
MFX HEXA-CHORUS Pan Deviation
MFX HEXA-CHORUS Balance
MFX HEXA-CHORUS Level
MFX SPACE-D Pre Delay
MFX SPACE-D Rate
MFX SPACE-D Depth
MFX SPACE-D Phase
MFX SPACE-D Low Gain
MFX SPACE-D High Gain
MFX SPACE-D Balance
MFX SPACE-D Level
MFX FLANGER Filter Type
MFX FLANGER Cutoff Frequency
MFX FLANGER Pre Delay
MFX FLANGER Rate
MFX FLANGER Depth
MFX FLANGER Phase
MFX FLANGER Feedback
MFX FLANGER Low Gain
MFX FLANGER High Gain
MFX FLANGER Balance
MFX FLANGER Level
MFX STEP-FLANGER Filter Type
MFX STEP-FLANGER Cutoff Frequency
MFX STEP-FLANGER Pre Delay
MFX STEP-FLANGER Rate
MFX STEP-FLANGER Depth
MFX STEP-FLANGER Phase
MFX STEP-FLANGER Feedback
MFX STEP-FLANGER Step Rate
MFX STEP-FLANGER Low Gain
MFX STEP-FLANGER High Gain
MFX STEP-FLANGER Balance
MFX STEP-FLANGER Level
MFX AMP-SIM PreAmp Sw
MFX AMP-SIM PreAmp Type
MFX AMP-SIM PreAmp Volume
MFX AMP-SIM PreAmp Master
MFX AMP-SIM PreAmp Gain
MFX AMP-SIM PreAmp Bass
MFX AMP-SIM PreAmp Middle
MFX AMP-SIM PreAmp Treble
MFX AMP-SIM PreAmp Presense
MFX AMP-SIM PreAmp Bright
MFX AMP-SIM Speaker Sw
MFX AMP-SIM Speaker Type
MFX AMP-SIM Speaker Mic Setting
MFX AMP-SIM Speaker Mic Level
MFX AMP-SIM Speaker Direct Level
MFX AMP-SIM Pan
MFX AMP-SIM Level
MFX COMPRESSOR Attack
MFX COMPRESSOR Threshold
MFX COMPRESSOR Post Gain
MFX COMPRESSOR Low Gain
MFX COMPRESSOR High Gain
MFX COMPRESSOR Level
MFX LIMITER Release
MFX LIMITER Threshold
MFX LIMITER Ratio
MFX LIMITER Post Gain
MFX LIMITER Low Gain
MFX LIMITER High Gain
MFX LIMITER Level
MFX 3TAP DELAY Delay Left
MFX 3TAP DELAY Delay Right
MFX 3TAP DELAY Delay Center
MFX 3TAP DELAY Center Feedback
MFX 3TAP DELAY HF Damp
MFX 3TAP DELAY Left Level
MFX 3TAP DELAY Right Level
MFX 3TAP DELAY Center Level
MFX 3TAP DELAY Low Gain
MFX 3TAP DELAY High Gain
MFX 3TAP DELAY Balance
MFX 3TAP DELAY Level
MFX TIME DELAY Delay Time
MFX TIME DELAY Acceleration
MFX TIME DELAY Feedback
MFX TIME DELAY HF Damp
MFX TIME DELAY Low Gain
MFX TIME DELAY High Gain
MFX TIME DELAY Balance
MFX TIME DELAY Level
MFX LOFI COMP Pre Filter Type
MFX LOFI COMP LoFi Type
MFX LOFI COMP Post Filter Type
MFX LOFI COMP Post Filter Cutoff
MFX LOFI COMP Low Gain
MFX LOFI COMP High Gain
MFX LOFI COMP Balance
MFX LOFI COMP Level
MFX PITCH-SHIFTER Coarse
MFX PITCH-SHIFTER Fine
MFX PITCH-SHIFTER Delay Time
MFX PITCH-SHIFTER Feedback
MFX PITCH-SHIFTER Low Gain
MFX PITCH-SHIFTER High Gain
MFX PITCH-SHIFTER Balance
MFX PITCH-SHIFTER Level
DELAY Switch
DELAY Type
DELAY Time
DELAY Feedback
DELAY Effect Level
DELAY MFX Send
DELAY MOD Send
DELAY BYPASS Send
REVERB Switch
REVERB Type
REVERB Time
REVERB High Cut
REVERB Effect Level
REVERB MFX Send
REVERB MOD Send
REVERB BYPASS Send
CHORUS Switch
CHORUS Type
CHORUS Rate
CHORUS Depth
CHORUS Effect Level
CHORUS MFX Send
CHORUS MOD Send
CHORUS BYPASS Send
EQ Switch
EQ Low Cut
EQ Low Gain
EQ Low-Mid Frequency
EQ Low-Mid Q
EQ Low-Mid Gain
EQ High-Mid Frequency
EQ High-Mid Q
EQ High-Mid Gain
EQ High Gain
EQ High Cut
EQ Level
EQ Character
NORMAL PICKUP Level
NORMAL PICKUP Line Select
ALTERNATE TUNING Switch
PATCH TEMPO
GUITAR OUT SOURCE
PATCH LEVEL

:)
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gumtown

By default the GK Volume is set in the SYSTEM settings to do "Patch Level", but you can set it to "Patch", and then use assigns on each patch to have it do as you wish..
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JCcares

I was about to post this.

Quote
or if you use an Assign (up to 8 of them) you can use any of these settings on the GK Volume

I didn't quite get that! How do I get the GK vol knob to do atleast one of the actions on that long list you pasted? I would like to assign the vol control of the modeled guitar alone on the GK vol knob.Can you explain please?

gumtown

#7
Quote from: JCcares on May 17, 2011, 09:13:47 PM
I was about to post this.

I didn't quite get that! How do I get the GK vol knob to do atleast one of the actions on that long list you pasted? I would like to assign the vol control of the modeled guitar alone on the GK vol knob.Can you explain please?

A simple way, if you want the same function on all patches, is to go the SYSTEM > GK VOL and set it to "Tone Volume" and then select only "Modeling Tone" as the option to control.

Or if you want to use an Assign patch/by/patch, (if you use the GR-55FloorBoard editor), the assign will look like this
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JCcares

Thanks.That did it!
Just another quick Question -If I made a global setting of the pedals & GK,instead of patch settings,will it overwrite the factory settings for the factory patches too (other than the User patches) ? If that is a 'yes' ,then is there a way to make a 'global' setting only for the User patches?

gumtown

Quote from: JCcares on May 17, 2011, 09:29:13 PM
Thanks.That did it!
Just another quick Question -If I made a global setting of the pedals & GK,instead of patch settings,will it overwrite the factory settings for the factory patches too (other than the User patches) ? If that is a 'yes' ,then is there a way to make a 'global' setting only for the User patches?
The SYSTEM/Global settting won't 'overwrite' any thing, it will just take precedence over patch settings.
Same applies to the factory preset patches too..
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mockchoi

#10
I'm wondering if this is possible.  I'd like a modeled acoustic sound that with one press I can change to an electric sound with a modeled amp.  I was thinking an assign for exp sw to change the guitar model, and an assign for exp sw on to add the amp.  Then with one press of the expression pedal I could change.

Is this possible?  I can't seem to make it work.  Or is there a better way?  Thanks!

Brent Flash

Welcome to the group mockchoi!  :)

celtic_dude

You might be able to use the cntrl pedal to swich between the modded acoustic sound and the pickups on your electric while turning the amp on and off.

Jim Williams

Yes I have done this for some other songs. send the modeled acoustic to your bypass and your normal pickups to the amp/mod and assign a controle to switch betwee the two.
Skype: (upon Request)

Everything from modeling to the real deal, my house looks like a music store.

mockchoi

Unfortunately the guitar I have doesn't send the mag pickups through the 13-pin cable at all.  So I can only get modeled sounds out of the GR-55.  So what I really need to do for this application is change the modeled sound.  I've experimented with just running an acoustic model through a modeled amp, but I'm not all that happy with the sound.

What I'm hoping to do is have a 'compact' rig for very small stages, and just use the guitar and the gr-55, no amp or other effects at all.

gumtown

Yes, you can change the modeled tone by using "Assigns".
To toggle from Acoustic to Electric modeled tone using the EXP pedal Switch,

Assign 1***********
[Assign1: On/Off] = On                                 (ensure the Assign is actually enabled)
[Assign1: Target] = Modeling Tone Number
[Assign1: Min] = 11 Acoustic - Steel
[Assign1: Max] = 9 Electric - Gibson 335
[Assign1: Source] = EXP PDL SW
[Assign1: Source Mode ] = Toggle
[Assign1: Range Low] = 0
[Assign1: Range High] = 127

If you want the acoustic only to be 12 string, use another Assign to toggle 12 String modelling on/off with the EXP pedal Switch

One short coming of the GR-55 is the Assigns won't let you chane Amp model, but you can use assigns to change any other parameters, such as gain, which again, an assign is used to toggle the gain (or any tone/eq parameters) between the acoustic and electric settings.
You can use up to 8 assigns, and have them all set to change parameters from using the EXP pedal switch.

If you want to get tricky with the EXP pedal and Assigns, a patch could be constructed where the EXP pedal starts off at one end, all 12 string acousticy, and as the pedal travels, the 12 string disables, a bit more travel the guitar model changes to electric, and as the pedal moves more (using the Assign "active range min/max" settings to determine the pedal position an assign event will happen), the preamp gain can gradually increase, with another assign decreasing the preamp volume (slightly) to even out the levels. Reverb and delay levels can be gradually added too. This setup will give you an EXP pedal which will have acoustic at one end and a dirty driven electric at the other end of pedal travel, with a variable change in between.
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mockchoi

Quote from:  gumtown on August 07, 2011, 02:24:38 PM
Yes, you can change the modeled tone by using "Assigns".
To toggle from Acoustic to Electric modeled tone using the EXP pedal Switch,

Assign 1***********
[Assign1: On/Off] = On                                 (ensure the Assign is actually enabled)
[Assign1: Target] = Modeling Tone Number
[Assign1: Min] = 11 Acoustic - Steel
[Assign1: Max] = 9 Electric - Gibson 335
[Assign1: Source] = EXP PDL SW
[Assign1: Source Mode ] = Toggle
[Assign1: Range Low] = 0
[Assign1: Range High] = 127

If you want the acoustic only to be 12 string, use another Assign to toggle 12 String modelling on/off with the EXP pedal Switch

One short coming of the GR-55 is the Assigns won't let you chane Amp model, but you can use assigns to change any other parameters, such as gain, which again, an assign is used to toggle the gain (or any tone/eq parameters) between the acoustic and electric settings.
You can use up to 8 assigns, and have them all set to change parameters from using the EXP pedal switch.

If you want to get tricky with the EXP pedal and Assigns, a patch could be constructed where the EXP pedal starts off at one end, all 12 string acousticy, and as the pedal travels, the 12 string disables, a bit more travel the guitar model changes to electric, and as the pedal moves more (using the Assign "active range min/max" settings to determine the pedal position an assign event will happen), the preamp gain can gradually increase, with another assign decreasing the preamp volume (slightly) to even out the levels. Reverb and delay levels can be gradually added too. This setup will give you an EXP pedal which will have acoustic at one end and a dirty driven electric at the other end of pedal travel, with a variable change in between.

Got it, thanks very much.  Very well explained.

Elantric

#17
MIDI controller Setup / Debug
https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=2975.msg18004#msg180


CTL Pedal, Expression pedal,  GK3 S1, S2, GK Volume) can be user defined to transmit MIDI CC# controls commands

See GR-55 Owners manual Page 79 GTR-MIDI section, which reveals these assignments can be accomplished.


It appears these are in the Master Section - and can Not be changed per patch ( bummer!)
(Look at bottom of this setup panel for "Pedal Control Data Output" and observe the 5 separate MIDI CC# Transmit settings for CTL Pedal, Expression pedal,  GK3 S1, S2, GK Volume))


There is one major drawback using the CTL pedal for midi cc# control,
it does not latch,
where it will send a cc# [which number you chose] with a data value of 127 [maximum] when pressed down.
and it will send a cc# [which number you chose] with a data value of 0 [minimum] when released.

The midi channel must match the other device (setting in the General midi)
and the controller value (cc#) must match the other device too.



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GR-55 will accept MIDI program change commands  -AFTER you enable MIDI Patch change reception.

And set the correct MIDI Channel too (PATCH CH = 1 thru 16)

To enable MIDI Patch change reception set (PC RX Switch = ON)

You can also use external MIDI controllers / foot switches to control the  GR-55. The Gr-55 does not respond to MIDI Note on/ off data, but you can use the GR-55 Control Assignments (8 per patch) to map an external MIDI CC# message to control an internal GR-55 FX / Synth parameter for real time control

You can use MIDI CC# control change messages to control functions that would be
difficult to control using the GR-55's own controllers.
In "Assign Settings (Asgn 1-8:)", set "Source" to "CC#1-#31, CC#64-#95" and set
"Target" to specify the parameter that will be controlled.

See the Youtube demo here:
Roland GR-55: Assigning a MIDI Control Change message (CC#) from an FC-300



See GR-55 Owners Manual page 79


Also GR-55 will send MIDI program change commands to other gear  -AFTER you enable MIDI Patch change transmission .

In regards to MIDI CC# control, the GR-55 restricts you to a total of eight simultaneous MIDI Continuous Controllers which you must manually assign yourself to the desired GR-55 Effect,Parameter, or function.

Of the hundreds of available GR-55 effect parameters, only 8 can be controlled using MIDI CC# for any given patch.
Its rather mandatory all GR-55 owners use Gumtown's GR-55 Floorboard Editor to fully understand and see all GR-55 Control assignments and settings
https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=2951.0

Launch  Gumtown's GR-55 Floorboard Editor, Connect with the GR-55  - and the see the Eight User Control Assignments - in the "Assigns" box in the  upper right :



Click on the Assign "1" button and the following Control Assign #1 Settings box opens and this is how I make my GR-55 Control assignments.





Load a pre-made example - like Guitarplayer_10's  GR-55 Ultimate Multi Control patch step by step

Learn multi-assignments by following all steps outlined here - then edit to suit YOUR needs.
https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=7267.msg50612#msg50612

This is a list of ALL available Control sources for the  GR-55:
(Observe  that not all MIDI CC# (1 thru 128) are available)
You may create Eight Total Control Assign Sources from the possible controllers in this list.
CTRL PDL
EXP PDL
EXP PDL ON
EXP PDL SW
INTERNAL PDL
WAVE PEDAL
GK S1
GK S2
GK VOL
CC#01 MIDI Controller
CC#02 MIDI Controller
CC#03 MIDI Controller
CC#04 MIDI Controller
CC#05 MIDI Controller
CC#06 MIDI Controller
CC#07 MIDI Controller
CC#08 MIDI Controller
CC#09 MIDI Controller
CC#10 MIDI Controller
CC#11 MIDI Controller
CC#12 MIDI Controller
CC#13 MIDI Controller
CC#14 MIDI Controller
CC#15 MIDI Controller
CC#16 MIDI Controller
CC#17 MIDI Controller
CC#18 MIDI Controller
CC#19 MIDI Controller
CC#20 MIDI Controller
CC#21 MIDI Controller
CC#22 MIDI Controller
CC#23 MIDI Controller
CC#24 MIDI Controller
CC#25 MIDI Controller
CC#26 MIDI Controller
CC#27 MIDI Controller
CC#28 MIDI Controller
CC#29 MIDI Controller
CC#30 MIDI Controller
CC#31 MIDI Controller
CC#64 MIDI Controller
CC#65 MIDI Controller
CC#66 MIDI Controller
CC#67 MIDI Controller
CC#68 MIDI Controller
CC#69 MIDI Controller
CC#70 MIDI Controller
CC#71 MIDI Controller
CC#72 MIDI Controller
CC#73 MIDI Controller
CC#74 MIDI Controller
CC#75 MIDI Controller
CC#76 MIDI Controller
CC#77 MIDI Controller
CC#78 MIDI Controller
CC#79 MIDI Controller
CC#80 MIDI Controller
CC#81 MIDI Controller
CC#82 MIDI Controller
CC#83 MIDI Controller
CC#84 MIDI Controller
CC#85 MIDI Controller
CC#86 MIDI Controller
CC#87 MIDI Controller




"This is a list of ALL available GR-55 FX Parameter Targets you may control remotely using the EIGHT Control Source Assignments from the list above:"
















Gumtown wrote>


List of Standard MIDI Continuous Controllers (CC's)
Here is a list of the standard MIDI continuous controllers. Use these controllers to manipulate your MIDI data to make the music more expressive. You use these to add expressive devices like add vibrato, add abrupt or gradual volume changes, add and control the amount of reverb, tremolo, and/or chorus, and so on. The most commonly used CC's are in bold typeface

For most controllers marked (on/off) controllers, on=127 and off=0. For all others, the higher the value, the more intense the effect is.

Note: Not all synthesizers respond to all CC's. There should be a list in your synth manual. It's usually in the back and it is usually called the MIDI implementation chart. If you don't have the manual or can't google one, try a few to see if they work. If you find this page helpful, feel free to link to it.

CC number and Description

0 Bank Select (MSB)
(followed by cc32 & Program Change)
1 Modulation Wheel
2 Breath controller
4 Foot Pedal (MSB)
5 Portamento Time (MSB)
Only use this for portamento time use cc65 to turn on/off
6 Data Entry (MSB)
if you follow cc100=0 & cc101=0 this is pitch bend range
7 Volume (MSB)
Note: CC7 and 11 both adjust the volume. Use cc7 as you would the control on the amplifier - set it and leave it at the beginning of the MIDI track
8 Balance (MSB) Some synths use it
10 Pan position (MSB)
11 Expression (MSB)
Note: CC7 and 11 both adjust the volume. Use cc11 for volume changes during the track (crescendo, diminuendo, swells, etc.)
12 Effect Control 1 (MSB)
13 Effect Control 2 (MSB)
14 Undefined
15 Undefined
16 Ribbon Controller or General Purpose Slider 1
17 Knob 1 or General Purpose Slider 2
18 General Purpose Slider 3
19 Knob 2 General Purpose Slider 4
20 Knob 3 or Undefined
21 Knob 4 or Undefined

22-31 are undefined, available for use by synths that let you assign controllers.

32 Bank Select (LSB) (see cc0)
33 Modulation Wheel (LSB)
34 Breath controller (LSB)
36 Foot Pedal (LSB)
37 Portamento Time (LSB)
38 Data Entry (LSB)
39 Volume (LSB)
40 Balance (LSB)
42 Pan position (LSB)
43 Expression (LSB)
44 Effect Control 1 (LSB) Roland Portamento on and rate
45 Effect Control 2 (LSB)
46-63 may be in use as the LSB for controllers 14-31 in some devices, but I have not seen one yet.
64 Hold Pedal (on/off)
Nearly every synth will react to 64 (sustain pedal)
65 Portamento (on/off)
66 Sustenuto Pedal (on/off)
67 Soft Pedal (on/off)
68 Legato Pedal (on/off)
69 Hold 2 Pedal (on/off)
70 Sound Variation
71 Resonance (aka Timbre)
72 Sound Release Time
73 Sound Attack Time
74 Frequency Cutoff (aka Brightness )
75 Sound Control 6
76 Sound Control 7
77 Sound Control 8
78 Sound Control 9
79 Sound Control 10
80 Decay or General Purpose Button 1 (on/off) Roland Tone level 1
81 Hi Pass Filter Frequency or General Purpose Button 2 (on/off) Roland Tone level 2
82 General Purpose Button 3 (on/off) Roland Tone level 3
83 General Purpose Button 4 (on/off) Roland Tone level 4
91 Reverb Level
92 Tremolo Level
93 Chorus Level
94 Celeste Level or Detune
95 Phaser Level

It's probably best not to use the group below for assigning controllers.?
96 Data Button increment
97 Data Button decrement
98 Non-registered Parameter (LSB)
99 Non-registered Parameter (MSB)
100 Registered Parameter (LSB)
101 Registered Parameter (MSB)

It's very important that you do not use these no matter what unless you want to invoke these functions
120 All Sound Off
121 All Controllers Off
122 Local Keyboard (on/off)
You might actually crash your keyboard if you use this one.
123 All Notes Off

You typically don't want your synths to change modes on you in the middle of making a song, so don't use these.
124 Omni Mode Off
125 Omni Mode On
126 Mono Operation
127 Poly Operation


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* GR-55 CONTROL ASSIGN PROBLEMS?
Some of the factory Preset patches in the GR-55 have the CTL pedal and/or EXP SW assigned to control various functions,
An assignment of this nature can make it appear that User parameters are not being stored in a patch.
To turn off the pre-assigned CTL and/or EXP SW functions, follow these steps:

1. Select the desired User patch.

2. Press the EDIT button.

3. Press PAGE left or right to select the MASTER tab, and then press ENTER.

4. Cursor left to "PEDAL/GK CTL," and then press ENTER.

5. Cursor down to "CTL FUNCTION," and then turn the dial counterclockwise to select "OFF."

6. Press PAGE right to select the EXP SW tab.

7. Cursor down to "EXP SW FUNCTION," and then turn the dial counterclockwise to select "OFF."

8. Save this new setting into the patch by pressing WRITE twice.

Note: Some patches may also contain assignments in the ASSIGN section that can effect custom stored parameters. If the above steps don't help with your patch, go to the ASSIGN menu, turn off each assignment in the patch, and then save the settings



Learn / review how other GR-55 patches with similar  Expression pedal or CTL Pedal functions operate.

1 ) Download Gumtown's GR-55 Floorboard Editor

https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=2951.0

2 ) Load the GR-55 preset sound which already has similar Expression pedal or CTL Pedal functions as you desire, and look on the upper right and review ALL Eight User Control ASSIGNS settings on this patch.





Do this for all Eight ASSIGNS - to be sure you don't miss one.


3) Review the separate "Pedal / GK" Control Assignment area too.




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CTL,EXPON, EXPswitch, assign to
« on: February 24, 2014, 08:17:00 AM »

https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=10675.msg77421#msg77421


GUMTOWN WROTE>

Yes the options can look like there are too many, so you need to choose them wisely as they can conflict against each other.

The basic functions are

EXP (Expression Pedal) is the pedal,
EXP SW (Expression Pedal switch) which is a function when the EXP is pressed to the Toe end with much pressure to operate a switch.
EXP ON (Expression pedal) is the function of the EXP while the EXP SW is switched ON, so the expression pedal can do two different things depending on the state of the EXP SW.

You can use the Pedal Functions for EXP, EXP ON, and EXP SW, and the other GK and S1/S2 controls on the guitar to setup a simple task/function.
Also you can use the 8 Assign (assignments) functions (just like in the GT-5) to control other GR-55 parameters as well as the above pedal functions to do more complex things.

Here is a quick tutorial I posted last week on using the Assigns


[ON/OFF] It is important and sometimes overlooked to actually turn on the assign function.

[TARGET] This is the parameter you will be using or controlling, either using the knob, or the down arrow to expand the combo box for an easier selection. Note# sometimes too fast selection may result in the wrong parameter chosen as the GR-55 may have missed the midi command, to double check and read the GR-55 setting, double-click your mouse pointer on the left patch tree panel "temp" item to update the actual settings the GR-55 thinks it has.

[MINIMUM/MAXIMUM] These are the values from the chosen Target - a simple switch parameter will only give you Off/On options but you can choose which way around they operate whether off is in the min or max.
For scalable parameters, for example a parameter with a range from 0~100, you can set how much of that range you want controlled, by default the full range is initially set (0~100), but you can scale it to say 50~100 if you want the assign to change a setting between halfway and full scale.
Again the bigger number setting can be either in MAX for forward operation, or in MIN for backward operation.

[SOURCE] This is the pedal or controller that is going to be doing the changes of the Target parameters.
Your EXP pedal does the Expression pedal while the Exp Pedal Switch (the led next to the pedal) is OFF.
EXP Pedal ON does the Expression pedal while the EXP Pedal Switch is ON, so your EXP pedal can do different things depending on the EXP pedal Switch state.
CTL pedal is obviously the CTL pedal, GK S1 and GK S2 are the guitar GK buttons, GK Vol is the guitar GK Volume knob, cc#1~cc#95 are for external midi continuous controllers.
The interesting ones are Internal Pedal, which is an event triggered one shot timer, which can be triggered by Exp pedal position, patch change, EXP pedal Switch and the GK S1/S2 switches. You can set a delay time from the trigger event start to the time it takes to make the Target parameter change from the MIN value to the MAX value.
Wave Pedal is an internal LFO (low frequency Oscillator) which can give continuous variable control over a Target parameter, giving rise/fall or min/max changes depending on the time rate chosen.

[SOURCE MODE]  Another misunderstood setting, This is used depending on the type of source control you have, MOMENT is for variable control, such as that done by EXP pedal, GK Vol, or external midi control, and changes the Target parameter in proportion to the controller position.
TOGGLE is just a latched switch state for button type controllers, or can be used also with variable controllers, but the result will be hard ON/OFF switching instead of smooth variable control. Toggle is also used as a latching state for a single button press, press once for on,  and press again for off.

[ACT RNG LO/ACT RNG HI] Action Range Low/ Action Range High. These are used for the variable controllers, such as EXP pedal to give a Range of control, 1~127 (default setting) for the EXP pedal is full range from Heel down to Toe down, giving the Target parameter full control over that pedal range. You can, for example set the ACT RNG HI down to 64, and this will give the Target parameter a variable range from Heel down to half way pedal travel. This is useful for mixing tones and 'morphing' PCM tones and other effects.


For review, Load a pre-made GR-55 Patch example with Multiple GR-55 Control Assignments- like Guitarplayer_10's  GR-55 Ultimate Multi Control patch. Learn multi-assignments by following all steps outlined here - then edit to suit YOUR needs.
https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=7267.msg50612#msg50612

and this doc goes into further details on setting GR-55 Control Assigns
https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?action=downloads;sa=downfile&id=16


* GR-55 CONTROL ASSIGN PROBLEMS?
Some of the factory Preset patches in the GR-55 have the CTL pedal and/or EXP SW assigned to control various functions,
An assignment of this nature can make it appear that User parameters are not being stored in a patch.
To turn off the pre-assigned CTL and/or EXP SW functions, follow these steps:

1. Select the desired User patch.

2. Press the EDIT button.

3. Press PAGE left or right to select the MASTER tab, and then press ENTER.

4. Cursor left to "PEDAL/GK CTL," and then press ENTER.

5. Cursor down to "CTL FUNCTION," and then turn the dial counterclockwise to select "OFF."

6. Press PAGE right to select the EXP SW tab.

7. Cursor down to "EXP SW FUNCTION," and then turn the dial counterclockwise to select "OFF."

8. Save this new setting into the patch by pressing WRITE twice.

Note: Some patches may also contain assignments in the ASSIGN section that can effect custom stored parameters. If the above steps don't help with your patch, go to the ASSIGN menu, turn off each assignment in the patch, and then save the settings



Watch GR-55 Control assignments in action here using Akai MPC-26 as MIDI CC# controllers for the GR-55



sll1966

#18
I would like to keep the auto wah effect on but go to a clean auto wah effect.   Does anyone have such a patch?
Main setting is Les Paul with stack and wah.

Thank you,
Steve

gumtown

Since the Wah and Distortion are both in the same effect modul, you can't use both at the same time.

I suggest either setting the EXP pedal function to switch the MOD effect (wah) on/off, and use an assign on the CTL pedal to toggle the preamp gain between ... say 45 and 80.
Or you could use the guitar amp effect in the MFX effect modul (with cab sim off) and use that as a distortion, with te CTL pedal toggling the MFX on/off. You will need to set the structure setting to Structure 2 to series MOD and MFX.
The last option is to use the Distortion effect in MOD, and use the MFX Super filter as a manual Wah (with Structure 2).
Free "GR-55 FloorBoard" editor software from https://sourceforge.net/projects/grfloorboard/

Machh_2

Is possible to use structure 1 for one patch and structure 2 for other diferent patch ?

tnx

tekrytor

Yes. You can set the structure independently in each patch.
SY-300/BeatBuddy/VoiceLive 3/GR-55(v1.50)/33/1/50/700/VGA-7/V-Bass, Yam-G10, GPK-4, DIY X-Bee HighlyLiquidCPU "Cozy-Lil-Footie", FCB-1010, other MIDI stuff, Godin Freeway SA and various other GK equipped controllers, Sonar X1, Audacity, KXstudio, Misc devices

papabuss

Hi sll1966
I made a patch for the VG 99 some time ago trying to get the "Bon Jovi sound"..of course not comparable with a real talkbox..but it sounds nice:
https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=2749.0

perhaps someone can make a GR 55 patch out of it ;)
FENDER STRATOCASTER (1974); BRIAN MAY RED SPECIAL; VG 99; GR 55; Yamaha DX 7

Music was my first love and it will be my last (JOHN MILES)

scheek

#23
When in a rhythm mode (pedal one) and need to move of instantly to an over drive patch, I incur a latency problem. Using stomp boxes I don't get that. How are other GR 55 owners getting around that. Thanks.

musicman65

You can't change patches without the drop out  delay. You can program the Control pedal to enable an overdrive effect. This will allow a lead boost within the same patch.

bd