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Offline ChrisF

Re: Godin LGX-SA / LGXT
« Reply #300 on: September 23, 2016, 11:10:30 AM »
I played a friend's Godin LGXT through a VG-99 and fell in love with the instrument. Now I want to buy one! Looking online, I've seen some folks say that Godin improved the electronics around 2012, so get a newer one. Other folks say the new ones have a Richlite fingerboard instead of ebony, so go with an old one. Also, some seem to think the synth pickups (RMC?) used by Godin are inferior to Roland's GK-3.

I would be grateful for any feedback from anyone with experience with the LGXT! Thanks.
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Offline Elantric

Re: Godin LGX-SA / LGXT
« Reply #301 on: September 23, 2016, 11:19:01 AM »
My 2012 LGX-SA and xtSA's have Ebony Fingerboards

I suspect it varies by model  - but its true many converted to Richlite in 2013

Both my 2015 Godin ACS-SA and 2015 Godin A10 fingerboards are Richlite  - and its not bad

- but Ive never seen a LGX-SA or xtSA with one, those all had Ebony Fingerboards last I checked  - even at 2016 Winter NAMM show


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Hi Paul,

The current version of the ACS-SA has a richlite fingerboard. Richlite is indeed a synthetic material. It has sonic properties that are similar to ebony.

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Re: Godin LGX-SA / LGXT
« Reply #302 on: September 23, 2016, 12:34:30 PM »
My A10 has a richlite fretboard and it's hard to tell the difference between that and the ebony fretboard on LGX-SA or LGXT.

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Offline Elantric

Re: Godin LGX-SA / LGXT
« Reply #303 on: September 23, 2016, 12:37:42 PM »
Been playing my Godin A10 as well - and realizing its a unique instrument that requires a new approach to playing  - but it inspires to create music I would never dream of playing on my Les Paul    - happy i got it during an Amazon sale
http://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=4946.0
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Offline Flymo

Re: Godin LGX-SA / LGXT
« Reply #304 on: September 23, 2016, 03:27:13 PM »
"...I would be grateful for any feedback from anyone with experience with the LGXT!"

Bought a used LGXT earlier this year - about a couple of years old with the Richlite fingerboard - initial impressions were fine, good looking, well finished, lovely neck, great sounds, integrates seamlessly with GR-55 - but a bit heavy to carry (I'm used to a G3T with GK-2A) and the intonation at the octave was a fair bit off.
No serious problems, then? 
Almost. 
I bought a big, wide padded strap, which helps, and tweaked the bridge saddles to correct the intonation - but ran out of travel! 
Fresh strings were no help, and careful measurement suggests that the bridge is just too close to the neck.  (sigh) 
That's a problem that I do expect on a $50 ukulele, but not on a Godin.

Workaround: I don't use a trem, so the trem springs were tweaked until the block locked, which improved the intonation enough, almost. 
So not perfect, but very good indeed!

I like it enough to really want to do a hex piezo bridge conversion on my G3T, when funds allow.

Offline lespauled

Re: Godin LGX-SA / LGXT
« Reply #305 on: September 23, 2016, 08:04:33 PM »
Wow, I've owned a Freeway SA, LGX-SA and an xtSa and have never had a problem with intonation.  Maybe the guy/gal before you bent the posts?  That's the only reason I can think of for that situation.

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Re: Godin LGX-SA / LGXT
« Reply #306 on: September 23, 2016, 08:13:41 PM »
Bought a used LGXT earlier this year - about a couple of years old with the Richlite fingerboard - initial impressions were fine, good looking, well finished, lovely neck, great sounds, integrates seamlessly with GR-55 - but a bit heavy to carry (I'm used to a G3T with GK-2A) and the intonation at the octave was a fair bit off.

It's a shame you bought it used. All Godin guitars come with a limited lifetime warranty. If there was a defect, you could have gotten it corrected.
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Offline Singwas

Re: Godin LGX-SA / LGXT
« Reply #307 on: October 06, 2016, 12:11:50 PM »
After making some recordings directly to my mac only using the Humbuckers, I m asking myself: for what purpose does anyone use the piezo PU (in traditional way, not using a 13-Pin-cable). For simulating a western-guitar?
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Offline lespauled

Re: Godin LGX-SA / LGXT
« Reply #308 on: October 06, 2016, 12:28:23 PM »
After making some recordings directly to my mac only using the Humbuckers, I m asking myself: for what purpose does anyone use the piezo PU (in traditional way, not using a 13-Pin-cable). For simulating a western-guitar?

Um, acoustic?

Offline sixeight

Re: Godin LGX-SA / LGXT
« Reply #309 on: October 06, 2016, 01:53:22 PM »
After making some recordings directly to my mac only using the Humbuckers, I m asking myself: for what purpose does anyone use the piezo PU (in traditional way, not using a 13-Pin-cable). For simulating a western-guitar?

Before I got my VG99, I had the Godin XTSA. The piezo PU went into a Boss AD-8 for acoustic sounds. I  thought it sounded quite good. But the piezo's kept giving me trouble, so I traded both the Godin and the AD-8 in for the VG99.

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Re: Godin LGX-SA / LGXT
« Reply #310 on: October 06, 2016, 02:21:53 PM »
I had one issue with my XTSA, too little slack of piezo cables rendering the thinnest E string sound bad. But after giving cables more slack everything works fine. I just love the acoustic sound and this piece of wood is really playable.
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Offline blindjammer2015

Re: Godin LGX-SA / LGXT
« Reply #311 on: December 05, 2016, 03:42:19 PM »
Fiddling around on my gr-55 with my LGX-SA a few nights ago, I noticed that for some reason, the sound of the piezo sent down the 13 pin cable isn't quite as clean and rich as the same output sent through the acoustic / mix quarter inch jack. Has anyone else experienced this? I turned off the amp modelling, it still gives a slightly colored sound compared to what I prefer. Unless there is something I am missing with regards to the patch I'm currently using? Loving the guitar so far after 4 months and the acoustic sound through the transducers is fantastic!

Offline SuperNiCd

Re: Godin LGX-SA / LGXT
« Reply #312 on: December 05, 2016, 04:04:40 PM »
I have not noticed this, though I don't know that I've A/B'd the 13 pin vs. acoustic/mix 1/4" output for the piezos.

I would use the GR-55 Floorboard editor and make sure everything is turned off:
 - EQ
 - Noise suppressor
 - Etc

And also make sure the volume for the normal/magnetic PU/s is turned up sufficiently on the GR-55 on that patch.
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Offline Elantric

Re: Godin LGX-SA / LGXT
« Reply #313 on: December 05, 2016, 04:26:02 PM »
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I noticed that for some reason, the sound of the piezo sent down the 13 pin cable isn't quite as clean and rich as the same output sent through the acoustic / mix quarter inch jack. Has anyone else experienced this?

yes - I hear the difference  - its because you avoid running Godin mono Piezo signal through  the multiple GK 13 pin interface analog signal buffers in the audio path. Fewer opamp stages in the signal chain  often yields lower hiss noise and improved dynamic range 

Offline blindjammer2015

Re: Godin LGX-SA / LGXT
« Reply #314 on: December 05, 2016, 06:25:15 PM »
So at least for the piezo acoustic sound I should run it through the standard quater inch whenever possible? what about the magnetic pickups? If I want to use some of the delays / other fx from the gr-55, does running it through the 13 pin cable take away from it as much as the acoustic sound?

Online admsustainiac

Re: Godin LGX-SA / LGXT
« Reply #315 on: December 05, 2016, 07:04:01 PM »
Nothing is perfect, and many folks use the Godin + GR-55 + Amplified speakers  or PA daily on the job just fine

So it all boils down to your needs , experience, and expectations and priorities  - and those are very individual and different for each person.


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Re: Godin LGX-SA / LGXT
« Reply #316 on: December 05, 2016, 07:18:01 PM »
Here is user Viramundo - using a guitar with RMC piezo pickups into the GR-55


ALL Parts including drums sounds are generated by playing the guitar and one 13 pin cable into one GR-55 - all live.
GR-55 - Steely Dan's Black Cow video with drums from GR55 & utilizing looper
http://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=12499.0



Offline blindjammer2015

Re: Godin LGX-SA / LGXT
« Reply #317 on: December 06, 2016, 01:41:12 AM »
Well, fixed some of the problems by adjusting string sensativity slightly, which is good. Still can't get the best modelled acoustic sound, however. Sucks trying to adjust parameters when I can't see the screen! hahaha.

Offline cbeattyjr

Re: Godin LGX-SA / LGXT
« Reply #318 on: February 17, 2017, 10:26:31 AM »
Very nice!  I can't tell by the video if that's a Yamaha guitar.  Can you confirm?  Where is the GK controller mounted?

Here is user Viramundo - using a guitar with RMC piezo pickups into the GR-55


ALL Parts including drums sounds are generated by playing the guitar and one 13 pin cable into one GR-55 - all live.
GR-55 - Steely Dan's Black Cow video with drums from GR55 & utilizing looper
http://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=12499.0




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Re: Godin LGX-SA / LGXT
« Reply #319 on: February 17, 2017, 11:15:28 AM »
It's a Frame Works guitar with RMC Piezo 13 pin system from Germany

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Having owned & tried nearly all the electro nylon guitars available including Godins etc. I recently bought a Frameworks Modern Classic nylon strung guitar, which I believe to be the finest and best sounding electro-acoustic guitar (and it should be for the price!).

This wonderful instrument is fitted with a RMC pick up & a 13 pin output so here I am taking my 1st plunge into the world of guitar synths/midi etc.

I have a Roland GR-55 on order & I feel like a 6 year old before Xmas!
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Offline Singwas

Re: Godin LGX-SA / LGXT Pick up Selector Cap
« Reply #320 on: May 18, 2017, 01:23:42 PM »
Hi! Sadly I lost my Pickup Selector Tip Cap. Seems to be a special inner size. Is there any replacement part? Is there a unversal fitting one on the market?
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Online admsustainiac

Re: Godin LGX-SA / LGXT Pick up Selector Cap
« Reply #321 on: May 18, 2017, 01:30:45 PM »
Hi! Sadly I lost my Pickup Selector Tip Cap. Seems to be a special inner size. Is there any replacement part? Is there a unversal fitting one on the market?

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Offline RipChord

Re: Godin LGX-SA / LGXT
« Reply #322 on: June 17, 2017, 01:39:03 AM »
Hi, new here but a vet V guitar user.
I seem to only be able to find videos of LGX-SA demos where ppl are strumming Poison, or tying some delicate fingerpicking in the acoustic mode.
Can you bang out rolicking pub versions of Don McClean or the Pogues using the acoustic sounds on an LGX-SA like you can on a Multiac? Or does it sound like most electrics do when they are trying to emulate an acoustic; a jangly, pitchy rattling that sounds like six pennies tossed in stainless colander?

Offline Hurricane

Re: Godin LGX-SA / LGXT
« Reply #323 on: June 17, 2017, 02:22:08 AM »
Hi, new here but a vet V guitar user.
I seem to only be able to find videos of LGX-SA demos where ppl are strumming Poison, or tying some delicate fingerpicking in the acoustic mode.
Can you bang out rolicking pub versions of Don McClean or the Pogues using the acoustic sounds on an LGX-SA like you can on a Multiac? Or does it sound like most electrics do when they are trying to emulate an acoustic; a jangly, pitchy rattling that sounds like six pennies tossed in stainless colander?

 8)

Depends on the acoustic FX you use on the LGXSA - I have one and the BodyRez presets in my
T.C.Helicon VoiceLive 3X given me great results  . I've only had it a couple of months now .

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Offline blindjammer2015

Re: Godin LGX-SA / LGXT
« Reply #324 on: June 17, 2017, 03:33:19 PM »
I've definitely found the results to be better than anything I could've hoped for. I was worried about the same, as other electrics I've played that try to emulate an acoustic usually don't come out of it sounding that great. I considered it a sign of good things to come when I was practicing alone in church one day and a bandmate friend walked in and asked me who was playing the acoustic guitar before realizing there was no acoustic guitar anywhere in the room.

On a bit of a different issue... when using patches on the GR-55 that involve my normal PU, for some reason I get a bit of buzzing whenever I lift my fingers off the string... not string buzzes or vibration, but it's definitely electronic. Not enough to pose a problem while playing, but something that I can notice and is a bit of a bother to my own ears. When I put my fingers on the strongs and start playing, it sounds beautiful... soon as I stop touching the strings, however, it comes back. any thoughts as to what this could possibly be?

 

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