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Offline dean2371

Re: FC300 - RRC2 - CAT-5 RJ45 cable to connect to VG-99?
« Reply #50 on: November 03, 2014, 05:23:31 PM »
Thanks for the welcome guys. I think I've figured it out, at least partially. Can't work out what the double assign function is for, but hopefully all will become clear when I've read all the really helpful posts on this forum

Offline Brent Flash

Re: FC300 - RRC2 - CAT-5 RJ45 cable to connect to VG-99?
« Reply #51 on: November 03, 2014, 05:47:21 PM »
Can't work out what the double assign function is for, but hopefully all will become clear when I've read all the really helpful posts on this forum
One for A Guitar and one for B Guitar if you are running both.

Offline Weed_

Re: FC300 - RRC2 - CAT-5 RJ45 cable to connect to VG-99?
« Reply #52 on: November 12, 2014, 04:39:30 PM »
Sorry people! I solved it quite some time ago and already sold it too :(.

It was an easy fix, I ordered new:

- http://www.neutrik.com/en/data/ethercon/ethercon-chassis-connectors/ - not sure about the exact model, but once you open your fc300, you will find that out, there are very detailed manual pdfs for each neutral connector

- http://www.neutrik.com/en/data/ethercon/ethercon-cable-connector-carrier/

and the ordinary ethernet cable inside. Any electrician can pull this off for you, and parts are also available pretty much everywhere specially with the power of internet.

 ;D

Offline ericar123

Re: FC300 - RRC2 - CAT-5 RJ45 cable to connect to VG-99?
« Reply #53 on: March 27, 2015, 07:13:47 AM »
Hi
After many years with a VG99 I am buying a used FC300. I keep thinking that there was some sort of update to the jack for the RRC2 connector but can't find info on it. Also does anyone know if the RRC2 cable came with the VG99 ? If so, I must have one somewhere.
« Last Edit: April 29, 2015, 05:26:34 PM by Elantric »

Offline Kevin M

Re: FC300 - RRC2 - CAT-5 RJ45 cable to connect to VG-99?
« Reply #54 on: March 27, 2015, 09:54:00 AM »
If memory serves me correctly, it came with the FC300.


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Offline concordal

Re: FC300 - RRC2 - CAT-5 RJ45 cable to connect to VG-99?
« Reply #55 on: March 27, 2015, 10:55:28 AM »
I must have one [RRC2 cable] somewhere.

You probably do, ericar123.  The RRC2 cable is just a standard internet connection cable, often called a "CAT5 cable'

Offline Elantric

Re: FC300 - RRC2 - CAT-5 RJ45 cable to connect to VG-99?
« Reply #56 on: March 27, 2015, 11:09:21 AM »

Here are all accessories that were inside the VG-99 box when sold new
The RRC2 cable was included inside the box with the VG-99




RRC2 Cable is simply a CAT-5 cable with plastic RJ-45 on the VG-99 connection side, and a Neutrik Ethercon connection on the FC-300 side



The RRC2 pins are wired straight thru on both ends

1-1
2-2
3-3
4-4
5-5
6-6
7-7
8-8
 

 
« Last Edit: March 27, 2015, 11:20:00 AM by Elantric »

Offline copperfrog

Re: FC300 - RRC2 - CAT-5 RJ45 cable to connect to VG-99?
« Reply #57 on: March 28, 2015, 06:19:22 AM »
 when i tried a internet cable connected to vg99 with a new fc300 it would not recognize each other at all ,the fc300 (if i remember correctly)
received phantom power and also it would change cc# in its display
i eventually sold it and of course eventually bought anotherused one    this time recognized each other perfectly  but with no phantom power
have to use batteries or adapter

there's a rrc2 cable on ebay right now but it seems expensive for what it is
vg99 boss gp10 tripleplay live3 digitech harmonyman

Offline scratch17

Re: FC300 - RRC2 - CAT-5 RJ45 cable to connect to VG-99?
« Reply #58 on: April 29, 2015, 04:19:02 PM »
My VG-99 arrived yesterday. It came with a power supply for the 99, an FC-300 (no power supply), what appears to be a CAT5 or CAT6 cable, and a RAD-99. I'm throwing out the ethernet cable. I have good quality new CAT6 cables.

1. I found a Neutrik Ethercon shell for a few dollars on Amazon.

http://www.amazon.com/Neutrik-NE8MC-Ethercon-Cable-Connector/dp/B002BEUHUQ/ref=pd_bxgy_MI_text_z

Is this all I need (with a good CAT6 cable) to create my own RRC2?

2. Will the FC-300 be powered via the CAT 6 cable?

3. I'm mostly using the VG-99 in my studio. Do I really need to bother with the Neutrik connector?
Gibson SG Standard
Hamer Duotone
B Moore i2.13
Taylor 710BCE

VG-99 FC-300
RMC Fanout
RJM Mmind GT10
Kemper PA
Mackie 1640
Line6 L2M
FTP

Mesa Recto Pre 20/20
Marshall DSL401C
Fender Bandmaster 68
Ampeg AX70

UA Apollo 8 Duo, Quad
MOTU Trav x2
Radial JDV X-AMP
Fish Aura
Weehbo Plexface
EHX Epitome

Offline Elantric

Re: FC300 - RRC2 - CAT-5 RJ45 cable to connect to VG-99?
« Reply #59 on: April 29, 2015, 04:26:41 PM »
Quote
1. I found a Neutrik Ethercon shell for a few dollars on Amazon.

http://www.amazon.com/Neutrik-NE8MC-Ethercon-Cable-Connector/dp/B002BEUHUQ/ref=pd_bxgy_MI_text_z

Is this all I need (with a good CAT6 cable) to create my own RRC2?


Correct - and access to an RJ-45 Crimping tool  (See RRC2 details below)


Quote
2. Will the FC-300 be powered via the CAT 6 cable?

When attached to a VG-99 / VB-99 with the RRC2 RJ-45 cable - yes

Quote
3. I'm mostly using the VG-99 in my studio. Do I really need to bother with the Neutrik connector?

Use the Neutrik Ethercon plug connection at the FC300 side,  It will save the fragile internal FC200 PC Board just in case someone stands on the RJ-45 cable entry to the FC300
 

The recent Line6 VDI Ethercon cables  do not tangle  can work with VG-99 / FC-300 - AFTER you swap out one end for a standard RJ-45 crimp jack.


Looks like they use VanDamme 268-450-000 TourCat CAT 5E STP Flexible cable
http://www.van-damme.com/38.html

More details on the VG-99 RRC2 cable is here:

http://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=28.msg55#msg55
FC-300 Q & A FAQ (Translated from Roland Japan)


Q. FC-300 cable RRC2 looks like RJ45 plug is used, but what is the highly reliable special plug?

A. Yes, RJ45 plug, high reliability Neutrik made EtherCon type plug is used at the FC-300 RRC2 Input.
EtherCon plug and XLR plug both latch when using, Ethercon provides same type connection as RJ45.


Q. Can any MIDI Program change command be assigned to pedals of the FC-300?

A. Patch mode allows a number pedal to be assigned any value of MIDI program change command.


Q. Can the FC-300 pedal transmit MIDI note on/ off output information?

A. Patch mode allows a number of FC-300 and CTL1 pedal, pedal-2 notes any information can be stored.
Also, more than one pedal notes can be stored as a single pedal to operate only in code (chord) can be printed out.


Q. RRC2 cable can be built to custom length, please tell me specs.

A. A Custom RRC2 cable must have the following specifications please.

* At least five categories (Cat5)
* Less than 15 meters in total length
* RJ45 to Ethercon - Wired Straight cable, not "crossover type".


Q. FC-300 can be connected to cable and what equipment uses RRC2 interface?
A. Guitar VG-99 and V-RRC2 cable, FC-300 becomes VG-99 foot controller.


http://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=28.msg55#msg55

The RRC2 Ethercon pinout is
========================
1 = RCV_1
2 = RCV_2
3 = +5VDC
4 = +VREF
5 = +VREF
6 = TXD
7 = GND
8 = GND
SHELL = GND



« Last Edit: April 29, 2015, 04:31:21 PM by Elantric »

Offline scratch17

Re: FC300 - RRC2 - CAT-5 RJ45 cable to connect to VG-99?
« Reply #60 on: May 05, 2015, 06:23:44 PM »
I had the friendly folks at Altex Electronics in Carrollton Texas make me a pair of 15 foot CAT 5e cables with Neutrik Ethercon on one end and RJ-45 on the other (i.e. custom made RRC2 cable). They charged me $54 for 2 cables (included sales tax). I could have made my own for less than $20 in parts, but don't have the time. Nor do I own an RJ-45 crimping tool.

If anyone is interested in getting one (or the parts, which they sell) you can contact them at:

Address: 3215 Belmeade Dr, Carrollton, TX 75006
Phone:(972) 267-8882
Gibson SG Standard
Hamer Duotone
B Moore i2.13
Taylor 710BCE

VG-99 FC-300
RMC Fanout
RJM Mmind GT10
Kemper PA
Mackie 1640
Line6 L2M
FTP

Mesa Recto Pre 20/20
Marshall DSL401C
Fender Bandmaster 68
Ampeg AX70

UA Apollo 8 Duo, Quad
MOTU Trav x2
Radial JDV X-AMP
Fish Aura
Weehbo Plexface
EHX Epitome

Offline musicamex

Re: FC300 - RRC2 - CAT-5 RJ45 cable to connect to VG-99?
« Reply #61 on: July 11, 2016, 07:06:43 PM »
The cat 5e cables are available super cheap at parts express.  They are buyout and often odd colors...perfect for gigs to be seen.  Here is a 15 foot red one for less than a buck.  Parts express has lots of good buyout and clearance items.  I have a wholesale acct and use it allot.

http://www.parts-express.com/belkin-fast-cat-5e-14-ft-red-patch-cable-snagless--109-456

Offline Elantric

« Last Edit: July 30, 2017, 03:08:54 PM by admsustainiac »

Offline mooncaine

Re: FC300 - RRC2 - CAT-5 RJ45 cable to connect to VG-99?
« Reply #63 on: July 11, 2016, 08:47:39 PM »
I have used just plain Ethernet cables once or twice to confirm it works, but I still use the one it came with. I love that about the FC300. I get set up the stage so quickly, and only have 2 or 3 cables to keep up with. One power adapter, for the VG-99. One amp. One headless guitar. VG-99 in a laptop bag, the briefcase kind. In & out so easy.

Pedalboard's kinda big, though.

I guess I liked that when I bought it, but realized later that, dang, that's a lot of floor space. Good thing it only has that one cable. That makes it easy to just flip up and out of the way. I leave it plugged in but lean it against the amp when I need to make room for other folks onstage.


Offline zoka3

Re: FC300 - RRC2 - CAT-5 RJ45 cable to connect to VG-99?
« Reply #64 on: October 25, 2016, 10:35:09 AM »
Where can I buy original RRC2 cable?

Offline Elantric

Re: FC300 - RRC2 - CAT-5 RJ45 cable to connect to VG-99?
« Reply #65 on: October 25, 2016, 10:46:32 AM »
Near impossible
Best to call Roland to place an order in USA

Roland Corporation U.S.
5100 S. Eastern Ave.
Los Angeles, CA 90040-2938
Customer Service Tel:  (323) 890-3700





But here is a 20ft Ethercon to RJ-45 cable that works.

https://www.amazon.com/Elite-Core-EC-PROCAT5E-RE-20-RJ45-Ethercon-20-Feet/dp/B0098NPPLE/ref=pd_day0_267_1?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B0098NPPLE&pd_rd_r=66AVEZD0NH2M859HZC7Z&pd_rd_w=frUja&pd_rd_wg=zmBtC&psc=1&refRID=66AVEZD0NH2M859HZC7Z



10ft is here
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1125402-REG/comprehensive_cat6_10problk_er_pro_av_it_cat6_ethercon.html
« Last Edit: October 25, 2016, 10:51:38 AM by Elantric »

Offline zoka3

Re: FC300 - RRC2 - CAT-5 RJ45 cable to connect to VG-99?
« Reply #66 on: November 15, 2016, 12:42:21 PM »
Where can I buy original Roland RRC2 cable?

Offline Elantric

Re: FC300 - RRC2 - CAT-5 RJ45 cable to connect to VG-99?
« Reply #67 on: November 15, 2016, 12:45:24 PM »
The official Roland RRC2 cable is typically out of stock for years


But the RRC2 is a standard "Ethercon to RJ-45 CAT-5E cable  - wired 1:1 at each end for all 8 connections

replacement RRC2 cable can be ordered  - search for

"CAT5E Cable RJ45-Ethercon"
https://www.amazon.com/s/ref=nb_sb_noss?url=search-alias%3Dmi&field-keywords=+CAT5E+Cable+RJ45-Ethercon

a 10 foot CAT5E Cable RJ45-Ethercon cable is here:
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1125402-REG/comprehensive_cat6_10problk_er_pro_av_it_cat6_ethercon.html



« Last Edit: November 15, 2016, 12:50:01 PM by Elantric »

Offline zoka3

Re: FC300 - RRC2 - CAT-5 RJ45 cable to connect to VG-99?
« Reply #68 on: November 17, 2016, 11:00:47 AM »
Thank you!

Offline zoka3

Re: FC300 - RRC2 - CAT-5 RJ45 cable to connect to VG-99?
« Reply #69 on: November 17, 2016, 11:54:45 AM »
Hi!
I ordered this cable:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/152148531116
Did I ordered a good cable?
It measures 3 meters.

Offline Elantric

Re: FC300 - RRC2 - CAT-5 RJ45 cable to connect to VG-99?
« Reply #70 on: November 17, 2016, 11:58:39 AM »
Looks good - since it states:

Quote
The cable is wired ‘Straight through’ with pin 1 going to pin 1 etc using metal/plastic shielded RJ45 plugs. 

Offline ZORO

Re: FC300 - RRC2 - CAT-5 RJ45 cable to connect to VG-99?
« Reply #71 on: July 29, 2017, 05:11:52 PM »
This is really a question...
Does anyone know a website (Amazon?) to get the cable between VG99 and FC-300.
Many thanks

Offline mooncaine

Re: FC300 - RRC2 - CAT-5 RJ45 cable to connect to VG-99?
« Reply #72 on: July 30, 2017, 01:48:17 AM »
I think this one would do:

http://btpa.com/FAS12-XX.html

I recall buying one from them, and using it, but can't recall with complete certainty that this is definitely the one.

Offline admsustainiac

Re: FC300 - RRC2 - CAT-5 RJ45 cable to connect to VG-99?
« Reply #73 on: July 30, 2017, 03:08:05 PM »
I think this one would do:

http://btpa.com/FAS12-XX.html

I recall buying one from them, and using it, but can't recall with complete certainty that this is definitely the one.


Correct- that cable works for FC-300 to VG-99

http://btpa.com/FAS12-XX.html
« Last Edit: July 30, 2017, 07:43:22 PM by Elantric »

Offline ffata

Re: FC300 - RRC2 - CAT-5 RJ45 cable to connect to VG-99?
« Reply #74 on: August 10, 2017, 03:28:02 PM »
a 10 foot CAT5E Cable RJ45-Ethercon cable is here:
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1125402-REG/comprehensive_cat6_10problk_er_pro_av_it_cat6_ethercon.html

FWIW, I recently purchased a spare FC-300 RRC2 from the above B & H link. I chose a 15ft. cable.
I just want to report that this is a quality item. Reasonably priced (I did have to pay tax because B & H has since set up a fulfillment center in NJ where I live) But, for some strange reason, and I'm not complaining, the site says orders over $49.00 are eligible for free shipping. My order was not $49 it was $29.42 and the shipping was free!