Whats the best affordable realistic sounding pitch shifter pedal/multieffects?

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Whats the best realistic sounding pitch shifter pedal/multieffects without the use of gk/hex/piezo?

Guido81

well, some people talk very highly of the Eventide H9, I didn't test it myself, I use a TC Electronic G Force in rack and I'm happy with it

Rhcole

I had an Eventide PitchFactor, didn't much care for it. I have tried EHX and others, the best tech I've found is from Digitech. The Mosaic has a pretty clean octave up.

ALOfYRSnfWhres

Quote from: Guido81 on October 12, 2017, 08:46:23 AM
well, some people talk very highly of the Eventide H9, I didn't test it myself, I use a TC Electronic G Force in rack and I'm happy with it

seem the eventide is a candidate its pricey, is the digitech low cost?

Rhcole

The H9 uses the PitchFactor algorithm. It doesn't play chords well. The Mosaic is around $200 and it sounds better. The newest Whammy pedals from DigiTech may use the same technology, I haven't tried them. But of Eventide, Boss, EHX, I think DigiTech is the best sounding.

rolandvg99

In my opinion you have to go HEX to get really good polyphonic pitch shifting and pitch bending. The hassle with adding specialised pickups to ones guitars put most players off.
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aliensporebomb

That's not hex/VG?

Eventide Eclipse rackmount? 
https://www.eventideaudio.com/products/rackmount/stereo-effects/eclipse-v4

The pedal format pitch transposers all kind of fall short for my ears.  That VG-99 set the bar so high that you gotta spend some money to get a usable algorithm.
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ALOfYRSnfWhres

Quote from: aliensporebomb on October 12, 2017, 04:19:12 PM
That's not hex/VG?

Eventide Eclipse rackmount?  The pedal format pitch transposers all kind of fall short for my ears.  That VG-99 set the bar so high that you gotta spend some money to get a usable algorithm.

ive never used eventide though, thanks suggestion , how much eventide eclipse?

chrish

Quote from: rolandvg99 on October 12, 2017, 02:02:10 PM
In my opinion you have to go HEX to get really good polyphonic pitch shifting and pitch bending. The hassle with adding specialised pickups to ones guitars put most players off.
I agree with this. I just saw a VG8 EX with a GK 2 for $100  (and 13 pin cable). I believe it was on the Los Angeles Craigslist. That's the least expensive, best pitch shifter out there.

There's really no reason to avoid hex.

Rhcole


Tony Raven

Quote from: ALOfYRSnfWhres on October 12, 2017, 06:32:17 PM
how much eventide eclipse?
USD $1,995.

Unclear questions rarely get clear answers. ;D Your original query was about THE BEST pitch shifter. Is that actually what you want, or are you really hoping to find some "good enough" $50 box?

And are you looking for a pitch shifter, or something dynamic like a DigiTech Whammy pedal ($200-$300)?

Guido81

Now, why did I read harmonizer??? LOOL, it's pitch shifter, though Eventide is still one of the best options, I use the Digitech Whammy, (the red one) the same used by adrian smith of Iron Maiden, it also has a detune mode, and harmonizer, and sounds great!

QuoteUnclear questions rarely get clear answers. ;D Your original query was about THE BEST pitch shifter. Is that actually what you want, or are you really hoping to find some "good enough" $50 box?
LOL I was thinking the same. Well to be honest,    ALOfYRSnfWhres, you didn't say if your question was just out of curiosity or if you're really planning to buy one. You should check something that suit your needs if want one.

Anyway, the digitech is not expensive. I have the 4th gen. There's a newer 5th gen that has a "chord mode" but I never test it.

QuoteAnd are you looking for a pitch shifter, or something dynamic like a DigiTech Whammy pedal ($200-$300)?
there you go, I just saw it at 200$ in the digitech website.

Good luck!

Jim Williams

The original question was simple enough.....
QuoteWhats the best realistic sounding pitch shifter pedal/multieffects without the use of gk/hex/piezo?

Multi effects are the worst for pitch shifting. Now it may be important to discuss what you are looking for. Intelligent pitch shifting TC Electronics has the Quintessence Harmonizer pedal that is probably the best compact pedal Harmonizer. Digitech has the Whammy line of pedal, Drop tune pedal and the Mosaic 12 string simulator but don't forget the Whammy DT that will drop or raise the pitch of your guitar. There is also their Polara Reverb that has a nice shimmer effect and the Luxe detune pedal. Digitech seems to have the best pitch shifting stomps on the market.

most of the rest of the responses to this question seem to be in a much higher price range and may not be as good as a pedal in some cases. It also depends on what type of pitch shifting you want to do. The best is what is best for you so I recommend go on YouTube and check out the demos to find what you might need, I have found many cool pedals on YouTube that I might not know about.

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QuoteWhats the best realistic sounding pitch shifter pedal/multieffects without the use of gk/hex/piezo?

FWIW - should you use a divided hex PU

nothing beats the Antares ATG-1 for " best realistic sounding pitch shifter pedal"

Elantric

https://www.thegearpage.net/board/index.php?threads/whammy-dt-alternative-for-tuning-up-and-down-changes.1872788/#post-25014566

QuoteAfroBill said: ↑
Are there any plans to create a mini pedal like the Drop and Richochet that will cover all the intervals like the Whammy DT can do? I would buy that in a heartbeat.

Tom Cram @ Digitech wrote>
I had planned on making a companion to the Drop that I called the "Lift," but when I realized I would be competing with $5 capos I killed the project.

reingarnichts

Quote from: Elantric on October 13, 2017, 12:51:42 PM
https://www.thegearpage.net/board/index.php?threads/whammy-dt-alternative-for-tuning-up-and-down-changes.1872788/#post-25014566

Tom Cram @ Digitech wrote>
I had planned on making a companion to the Drop that I called the "Lift," but when I realized I would be competing with $5 capos I killed the project.

That's true for just a few steps but a capo at the 12. fret doesn't leave you a lot of room to play...

alexmcginness

Quote from: aliensporebomb on October 12, 2017, 04:19:12 PM
  That VG-99 set the bar so high that you gotta spend some money to get a usable algorithm.

I was gonna suggest a VG-99 as well. Its just the ultimate swiss army knife and can be tweaked till the cows come home.

If you tune your guitar with a GK pickup on it down to baritone and record a mono file of a full e chord and then tune it back to regular pitch and record an E chord with the pedal making it a baritone and load both mono files into Har-Bal you can  see where the eq needs to be to get the pitch shifted guitar it as close as possible to the naturally tuned one and save the tweaked patch.

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ALOfYRSnfWhres

seems the Digitech is the way to go, thank you guys , by the way https://www.facebook.com/groups/MooerGE200/

:)

Rhcole

EHX just announced the Slammi Plus poly pitch shift whammy pedal. The demo video features a few major chords, not too challenging. But they sound pretty good.

acousticglue

is there a good pedal that does Whammy pitch shift and can go to Wah?

chrish

Quote from: chrish on October 12, 2017, 06:51:50 PM
I agree with this. I just saw a VG8 EX with a GK 2 for $100  (and 13 pin cable). I believe it was on the Los Angeles Craigslist. That's the least expensive, best pitch shifter out there.

There's really no reason to avoid hex.
Wanted to make a correction here because I saw this package again last night.  It's on the San Francisco Craigslist and it's only $75.

The guy says it was his backup unit and it looks from the photographs to be in really good shape.

ALOfYRSnfWhres

maybe this is the one what we are looking for?



Pitch Step

PITCH STEP is a polyphonic pitch shifter and harmonizer, conveniently built into a small expression pedal for real time control. The integrated features and control options make this pedal very flexible and useful for many different styles of music and applications. Pedal steel bends, whammy shifting, artificial tremolo dives, fat octave harmonies are just a few of the possibilities. Open up your expressive side with the MOOER PITCH STEP



Main Features


* Fast and accurate, polyphonic Pitch-Shifting
* Optional dry signal for harmonization
* Customizable pitch adjustment for -OCT/+OCT
* Adjustable shifting range and direction
* Includes MOOER's unique pressure sensing technology

* Supports 9V battery power

Specifications

Input: 1/4" mono audio jack.(Impedance: 1M Ohms)
Output: 1/4" mono audio jack(Impedance: 100 Ohms)
Power requirements:  9V DC
Current Draw:  180 mA
Dimensions:  154.5mm(D)×73mm(W)×53mm(H)
Weight: 540 g






Rhcole

Ha! See my review of the new EHX Superego+ in the EHX section!
It has a next-generation pitch shifter... ;)