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Title: Boss MS-3 MULTI EFFECTS SWITCHER FAQ
Post by: admin on June 01, 2017, 12:50:05 AM
https://www.boss.info/us/products/ms-3/

(https://static.roland.com/assets/images/products/gallery/ms-3_F_gal.jpg)

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https://youtu.be/q8AQeY3_t9c
https://youtu.be/aX2WB6fUkwg

MS-3 Multi Effects Switcher
Pedalboard Integration Evolved

The MS-3 Multi Effects Switcher is a new-concept pedalboard solution that maximizes your creative options by combining a world-class multi-effects engine and multi-pedal switcher in one small, dedicated unit. Now, anyone can put together a professional effects system that's incredibly compact, extremely light, and versatile enough to achieve nearly any sound imaginable. The MS-3 is a sonic powerhouse capable of running six internal pedal effects at once while seamlessly integrating three of your favorite external pedals. It also offers deep rig control capabilities, allowing you to switch amp channels, adjust effects in real time, work with MIDI devices, and more. With the MS-3, it's easy to create a portable board or fly rig without the compromises associated with traditional loop switchers and all-in-one multi-effects units.

Pedalboard integration evolved.

Powerful integrated solution for creating a compact professional pedalboard
Unlimited sound creation with six simultaneous pedal effects and audio loops for connecting three external pedals
112 built-in effects types for guitar and bass, including delays, reverbs, mod/pitch effects, overdrives, distortions, and more
Intuitive user interface for easy patch creation
Backlit LCD, editing knobs, and panel LEDs for on/off status of loops and effects
Control assign, wave pedal, and other functions for deep real-time expression 
Equipped with numerous jacks for amp channel switching, effects control, and more 
MIDI output for working with MIDI-enabled effects 
Built-in tuner, noise suppressor, and global EQ 
USB for patch creation and backup via free MS-3 Editor/Librarian software
As Versatile As You Need to Be

The MS-3's highly flexible design gives you the freedom to create any kind of effects system, from simple to complex. It can serve as a general-purpose effects unit to augment core tone from three stompboxes, or function as the central hub of an advanced hybrid rig with MIDI gear and channel-switching amps. It even works as a standalone effects processor, making it perfect for fly dates and other times you need to travel light. And if you're just starting out, the MS-3 provides a solid effects foundation that can be expanded as your experience grows.

Three Loops for Your Choice of Effects

Via the MS-3's audio loops, you can connect three different effects devices to the system. You'll probably want to hook up your favorite drive and booster pedals to the loops, but you can use any effects you like. Once your pedals are connected, you're able to switch the loops on/off individually, and position the MS-3's onboard effects around them any way you want.

World-Class BOSS Effects Engine

To complement the three external loops, the MS-3 is equipped 112 effects types to choose from. They'reorganized in six categories, which are available simultaneously: FX1, FX2, Mod1, Mod2, Delay, and Reverb. FX1 and FX2 contain many different types, from overdrives and distortions to compressors, pitch shifters, Slow Gear, and many others. Mod1 and Mod2 offer the famous BOSS chorus and vibrato effects, plus tremolo,
flanger, phaser, and more. All the effects are fantastic for guitar, and there's also a large selection specially optimized for bass.

Big Creativity in a Tiny Package

The MS-3 is packed with decades of BOSS compact pedal and multi-effects know-how, and offers an ultra-efficient design that lets you dial in inspiring sounds right away. There's a backlit LCD that clearly shows patch/bank numbers and parameters, plus quick-access knobs for editing and status indicators for all loops and effects. And with 200 patch locations, you have ample memory for storing effects and control setups for instant recall.

Complete Foot Control

The MS-3's heavy-duty footswitches give you easy command of the entire system. In Memory mode, the footswitches allow you to select patches and banks. Changing to Manual mode lets you switch loops and effects on/off, and even control multiple effects parameters for intense real-time expression. Your Manual mode assignments can be stored in patches, letting you create dynamic custom setups for different songs and styles.

Pro Essentials

Going well beyond the basics, the MS-3 provides tons of options for expanded control. You're able to connect external footswitches for tap tempo, effects on/off, and parameter adjustment, plus expression pedals for volume, wah, pitch shift, and more. Control out jacks are available for switching amp channels and controlling effects that support external input. And there's even MIDI for sending tempo, PC, and CC information to MIDI-enabled pedals, whether they're connected to loops or not. In addition, the MS-3's two audio outputs can be set for full stereo or selectable mono operation per patch, providing great flexibility with dual amp rigs.

USB and Remote Editing

The MS-3 supports USB for accessing the free MS-3 Editor/Librarian software on a Mac or Windows computer. This lets you edit effects, assign control parameters, set tempos, and more via a convenient graphic interface. You can also back up and restore individual patches, and organize groups of patches into Live Sets for various gigs.



MS-3 EDITOR/LIBRARIAN RELEASE SCHEDULE
The MS-3 Editor/Librarian software will be available in mid-July 2017.
Title: Re: Boss MS-3 MULTI EFFECTS SWITCHER
Post by: admin on June 01, 2017, 01:03:17 AM
Boss MS-3 MANUALS/ PARAMETER GUIDE / MIDI IMPLEMENTATION

https://www.boss.info/us/products/ms-3/support/


Boss MS-3 Owners Manual
https://static.roland.com/assets/media/pdf/MS-3_eng02_W.pdf

Boss MS-3 Parameter Guide
https://static.roland.com/assets/media/pdf/MS-3_Parameter_Guide_eng01_W.pdf

Boss MS-3 Application Guide
https://static.roland.com/assets/media/pdf/MS-3_Application_Guide_eng01_W.pdf


Boss MS-3 - USING MS-3 EDITOR/LIBRARIAN
https://static.roland.com/assets/media/pdf/MS-3_Editor_Librarian_eng01_W.pdf

Boss MS-3 MIDI Implementation Chart
https://static.roland.com/assets/media/pdf/MS-3_MIDI_Imple_Chart_eng01_W.pdf

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Title: Re: Boss MS-3 MULTI EFFECTS SWITCHER
Post by: Smash on June 01, 2017, 01:31:34 AM
What a great looking and interesting little box! A bit like a GT1 minus all the pre-amps and cabs in a metal box with 3 loops. I love the big functionality in a small box idea.

Maybe a few will be disappointed there's not one stereo loop? All loops being mono kind of dictates the types of pedals you'll connect i.e. overdrives or distortions, not your Strymons etc.

One of the demo videos actually shows a close up of the MS3 on a board with a stereo pedal above with both L&R outputs connected which is a bit misleading.

Great for traditional amp users who've splashed on boutique drive pedals they can't live without - and in fact the video gently leads non tech guitarist into the land of MIDI Program Change with the Kemper profiler piece.
Title: Re: Boss MS-3 MULTI EFFECTS SWITCHER
Post by: Cups on June 01, 2017, 04:27:30 AM
This thing looks cool. May be exactly what I'm looking for.
Title: Re: Boss MS-3 MULTI EFFECTS SWITCHER
Post by: admin on June 01, 2017, 06:41:11 AM
Quote from: Smash on June 01, 2017, 01:31:34 AM
What a great looking and interesting little box! A bit like a GT1 minus all the pre-amps and cabs in a metal box with 3 loops. I love the big functionality in a small box idea.

Maybe a few will be disappointed there's not one stereo loop? All loops being mono kind of dictates the types of pedals you'll connect i.e. overdrives or distortions, not your Strymons etc.

One of the demo videos actually shows a close up of the MS3 on a board with a stereo pedal above with both L&R outputs connected which is a bit misleading.


The MS-3 is rather deep as a MIDI Controller, and its possible to connect modern stereo FX that provide remote MIDI control jack ( H9, Nemesis Delay, etc) After the MS-3 and still control them via the MS-3's MIDI Output
Title: Re: Boss MS-3 MULTI EFFECTS SWITCHER
Post by: jwhitcomb3 on June 01, 2017, 07:55:11 AM
The control output CTLOUT1/2 can be configured to be open/closed for separate cables with a splitter cable, or can be configured to send out 100 ms pulses to the TRS ring/tip. I wonder if it could be configured to connect to the Katana GA-FC input to switch channels on the Katana?
Title: Re: Boss MS-3 MULTI EFFECTS SWITCHER
Post by: admin on June 01, 2017, 08:11:32 AM
Quote
The control output CTLOUT1/2 can be configured to be open/closed for separate cables with a splitter cable, or can be configured to send out 100 ms pulses to the TRS ring/tip. I wonder if it could be configured to connect to the Katana GA-FC input to switch channels on the Katana?

Only if the MS-3 CTRL OUT can transmit MIDI at x2 speed ( doubtful)

Katana GA-FC Footpedal data details:
https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=19959.0



Title: Re: Boss MS-3 MULTI EFFECTS SWITCHER
Post by: jwhitcomb3 on June 01, 2017, 08:39:34 AM
Thanks for that. Looks like no GA-FC emulation on the MS-3 (but hey, I can dream!), have to use  MIDI to switch the Katana from the MS-3.
Title: Re: Boss MS-3 MULTI EFFECTS SWITCHER
Post by: Smash on June 01, 2017, 08:43:40 AM
So it's competitor is what, the TC G system? Whivh is more expensive and lacks the assign depth?
Title: Re: Boss MS-3 MULTI EFFECTS SWITCHER
Post by: admin on June 01, 2017, 08:48:10 AM
Seems a good candidate for Sneaky research

https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?board=240.0
Title: Re: Boss MS-3 MULTI EFFECTS SWITCHER
Post by: Sevenmodes on June 01, 2017, 01:11:17 PM
Quote from: Smash on June 01, 2017, 01:31:34 AM
...Great for traditional amp users who've splashed on boutique drive pedals they can't live without...

This is me... I own a GT-100 that I use stand alone (with amp sims) for grab and go gigs, corporate events with full PA etc.

But for band bar/party gigs, I use it as a multi effect in front of a clean Hot Rod Deluxe. In that situation, have a small board alongside with a few drive/fuzz pedals and I use the GT as a mod, delay, reverb unit without amp/cab sims.

So, for me this is perfect because it will fit on my current board (it's only 4"x10" roughly)and eliminates a piece of gear I have to haul and hookup. Bonus - With a current draw of 280ma, looks like I can power it from a pedal board PSU (I use a Cioks DC-5).

So now I get Multi effects, ability to switch two or three drives on with one stomp, built in tuner and buffer all in a 4x10 box.

I've already pre-ordered... no brainer for me.
Title: Re: Boss MS-3 MULTI EFFECTS SWITCHER
Post by: thebrushwithin on June 01, 2017, 08:02:03 PM
Looks like it would work very well with a Kemper,  if you can send cc#s when switching to manual mode, to control the Kemper FX. Add in the Boss FX, and create! Wow!
Title: Re: Boss MS-3 MULTI EFFECTS SWITCHER
Post by: Cups on June 04, 2017, 07:08:57 AM
Looks like it lists for 550$ CND. Gotta love the difference between the US and CND.
Title: Re: Boss MS-3 MULTI EFFECTS SWITCHER
Post by: Elantric on June 04, 2017, 07:54:44 AM
QuoteLooks like it lists for 550$ CND. Gotta love the difference between the US and CND.

Its $699 in Australia
http://www.bettermusic.com.au/boss-ms3-effects

global Currency exchanges fluctuate daily

Found that out when I worked for a German company who took 9 months to pay me , and by the time I got the check in the USA  , and the bank fees , it was for 1/3 less that my negotiated rate  because the fluctuating exchange rate 
Title: Re: Boss MS-3 MULTI EFFECTS SWITCHER
Post by: chappi on June 04, 2017, 10:51:36 PM
So MIDI messages are only sent when patches change?

I assume the intention is that a midi capable effect in one of the loops could have parameters changed to match patch on MS3.

But wouldn't allow for a message to be sent to a connected GP-10 for 12 string on/off or to an ipad looper app for rec start/stop?

Or, due to lack of MIDI experience, have I missed something and assigns can be set up to send midi messages within a patch?

If its the former then my excitement is waning and I'm back looking for a midi controller for ipad and gp10.

Chris
Title: Re: Boss MS-3 MULTI EFFECTS SWITCHER
Post by: ALOfYRSnfWhres on June 11, 2017, 05:23:06 AM
https://www.facebook.com/groups/BossMS3Users/
Title: Re: Boss MS-3 MULTI EFFECTS SWITCHER
Post by: jassy on June 12, 2017, 06:32:19 AM
MS-3 review (spanish):

https://www.guitarristas.info/reviews/review-boss-ms-3-multiefectos-controla-tus-pedales-tu-ampli/7086
Title: Re: Boss MS-3 MULTI EFFECTS SWITCHER
Post by: Sevenmodes on June 17, 2017, 01:31:24 PM
MS-3 arrived today! Images below, but the thing I'm really stoked about is that it runs on 300ma pedalboard PSU outlet from a Cioks DC5! Wont get to really test it until tomorrow, but will report back.



(https://i.imgur.com/LuGcPxL.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/vUHHVS1.jpg)

(https://i.imgur.com/9t16a8I.jpg)
Title: Re: Boss MS-3 MULTI EFFECTS SWITCHER
Post by: Elantric on June 21, 2017, 04:00:27 PM
https://youtu.be/A-76WPeZERw
I'm seriously excited about this one (Boss MS-3)! Top shelf Boss effects and the unit is built like a tank. Also the controls and editing are really clear and easy to use.
Title: Re: Boss MS-3 MULTI EFFECTS SWITCHER
Post by: LordByron on June 21, 2017, 07:49:53 PM
Quote from: admsustainiac on June 01, 2017, 08:48:10 AM
Seems a good candidate for Sneaky research

https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?board=240.0
A BIG +1 on that idea! :)
Title: Re: Boss MS-3 MULTI EFFECTS SWITCHER
Post by: chappi on June 24, 2017, 04:15:25 PM
Quote from: chappi on June 04, 2017, 10:51:36 PM
Or, due to lack of MIDI experience, have I missed something and assigns can be set up to send midi messages within a patch?

If its the former then my excitement is waning and I'm back looking for a midi controller for ipad and gp10.

Chris

Of course it was the latter I missed the difference between patch midi 1-4 and assigns 1-8 targeting midi.
Title: Re: Boss MS-3 MULTI EFFECTS SWITCHER
Post by: jwhitcomb3 on June 26, 2017, 12:01:56 PM
Mine arrived Saturday. The upside for the editor/librarian not being available until July is I was forced to learn how to program via the physical interface. Actually, not bad at all. A whole lot of power and flexibility for such a small footprint.

I like being able to assign a function to subsequent presses of the current preset button (preset mode only). I've already found that to be useful to toggle the solo for the preset, or for tap tempo access (although I think I'll end up having a dedicated external foot switch for that).
Title: Re: Boss MS-3 MULTI EFFECTS SWITCHER
Post by: polaris20 on June 27, 2017, 07:48:04 AM
I wonder how good this is for bass? I was thinking of a Le Bass preamp from Two Notes, coupled with this. The Two Notes has MIDI, which the MS-3 could in theory switch channels. That'd make a helluva powerful little rig.
Title: Re: Boss MS-3 MULTI EFFECTS SWITCHER
Post by: jwhitcomb3 on June 27, 2017, 09:57:00 AM
Quote from: polaris20 on June 27, 2017, 07:48:04 AM
I wonder how good this is for bass? I was thinking of a Le Bass preamp from Two Notes, coupled with this. The Two Notes has MIDI, which the MS-3 could in theory switch channels. That'd make a helluva powerful little rig.
I haven't plugged in a bass yet, but there are a bunch of bass presets as well as dedicated bass algorithms.

The more I play with this the more I like it. All the footswitches and the knobs can be re-assigned or multi-tasked, so it can be customized to your particular needs. For example, if you only use presets and don't care about the stomp-box mode, you can assign the preset/stomp selector button to something else, such as tap tempo or controlling a loop. The assigns are great too. I love a clean delay for distorted sounds and a tape/modulated delay for clean sounds, so I have an assign switch the delay type when I turn a distortion/OD on or off. The global overrides to the button/knob assignments are handy if you want to dedicate a button/knob for all patches.

I also like that while there are still dedicated slots for certain classes of algorithms (FX1/FX2, Mod1/Mod2, DLY, REV), there is some cross pollination for example there are delay options in the FX1, FX2, and REV slots.

Oh yeah, and it sounds good. :)


The Roland/Boss terminology still throws me: I have to remember that "wave pedal" means "assignable LFO," "internal pedal" means "assignable ramp," "limiter" means "compressor without automatic makeup gain," and "compressor" means "limiter with makeup gain."
Title: Re: Boss MS-3 MULTI EFFECTS SWITCHER
Post by: Peter the GR-eat... on June 27, 2017, 03:13:00 PM
Hi!

This seems to be a great product!
But...
I don't know if I got this right. But do you have press ctrl 1 and 2 at the same time  for bank down and ctrl 3 and 4 for bank up?

I'm asking because I have trouble with pressing ctrl 1 and 2 for tuner on my GP-10
Title: Re: Boss MS-3 MULTI EFFECTS SWITCHER
Post by: Elantric on June 27, 2017, 03:54:57 PM
Quote from: Peter the GR-eat... on June 27, 2017, 03:13:00 PM
Hi!

This seems to be a great product!
But...
I don't know if I got this right. But do you have press ctrl 1 and 2 at the same time  for bank down and ctrl 3 and 4 for bank up?

I'm asking because I have trouble with pressing ctrl 1 and 2 for tuner on my GP-10

(https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/proxy.php?request=http%3A%2F%2Fcdn3.volusion.com%2Fnqlam.wslhe%2Fv%2Fvspfiles%2Fphotos%2FSKU40559CR-2T.jpg%3F1496851653&hash=21cf7d700a0c732298d6100f1bcfd5c6ceb29b39)
You could use an external 2 button foot switch ( Boss FS-7) for Bank Up / Bank Down  - using the MS-3 Control Assignments for External CTL1/CTL2
(https://s6.postimg.cc/oftsj1f5t/M-3.png)
Title: Re: Boss MS-3 MULTI EFFECTS SWITCHER
Post by: Peter the GR-eat... on June 27, 2017, 05:13:02 PM
Ok! Thanks for the quick response!
Title: Re: Boss MS-3 MULTI EFFECTS SWITCHER
Post by: Elantric on June 27, 2017, 06:46:19 PM
https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ja&u=https://gear-otaku.blogspot.com/2017/06/nux-cerberus-multi-effects.html&prev=search (https://translate.google.com/translate?hl=en&sl=ja&u=https://gear-otaku.blogspot.com/2017/06/nux-cerberus-multi-effects.html&prev=search)



https://youtu.be/_u9ntRD5x_c
BOSS MS-3 Multi Effects Switcher became out of stock as soon as it got a great deal of attention with the announcement and it was released.
I found that both the official videos of MS-3 and the two pedal boards used in the product page are custom-made items for European manufacturers.




(https://3.bp.blogspot.com/-VpqNpdQ4O4o/WUY9uVUWdOI/AAAAAAAAH9E/tWoAOpqair0tvAtPKnRCJvQzaEKE_DzMwCLcBGAs/s320/custompedalboards-boss-ms-3-2.jpg)


(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-X6I9pbb-3rc/WUY6xxauqWI/AAAAAAAAH8s/Ii6oyDmMsdQVCxZL_GObioCq0i6IjbjNQCLcBGAs/s400/boss-ms-3-pedalboards.jpg)

The base board is produced by Custom Pedal Boards in Wales, England. Sometimes it is the official supplier of GigRig based in the same British, I am using GigRig products for power supply.



https://www.custompedalboards.co.uk/








Schmidt Array of Germany produced the board for guitar. Based on the company's SA450 model, we customize color and wah space.
https://www.schmidtarray.com/product-page/sa450


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---SA450
•  450 mm wide two level pedalboard
•  the upper deck is mounted on locking hinges, so it remains in the vertical position when opened and has ball latches underneath to lock it in the closed position when down
•  the angle of the upper deck is ergonomically designed for foot switching comfort
•  the upper deck leg supports are re-positionable to the left and right to ensure that no cable path is ever obstructed
•  the inner area also has space for power supplies and pedals
•  the bottom deck lifts out completely (and locks back into place) for easy cabling
•  both decks and the inside floor are finished with high quality Velcro
•  the side panels are finished with rubber to grip the stage and also to act as protection and Lid location
•  IEC power socket (male outside/female inside)
•  Supplied with flexible LED light, USB re-chargeable power pack and pedal Velcro

Important notes:
•  the decks are at any time replaceable, so if your board has no Wah, Volume or Expression pedal cut-out then it's no problem in the future for us to supply you with a replacement deck that you can fit yourself to suit a new configuration
•  the same goes for the Wah / Volume / Expression pedal extension on the lower deck, this is also movable and replaceable
•  there is an optional 6 channel STEREO Connection Box for GUITAR IN - AMP OUT - EFFECTS LOOP IN / OUT and FOOTSWITCHES (see OPTIONS page for more details)
•  stock colour is Black but if you want something special then please choose a RAL colour from the chart on this product page and contact us, rices for custom colours range from €75-€100.

*all prices are +Tax (in EU countries) and shipping costs.

** DON'T WANT TO USE THE SHOP? THEN JUST DROP US A LINE USING THE CONTACT PAGE AND WE'LL BE HAPPY TO GET BACK TO YOU.
Specs

• Outside - W 480 x D 375 x H 138
• Lower deck - W 450 x D 165
• Upper deck - W 446 x D 185
• Inside - W 450 x D 144
• Height inside - rear 80, front 65
• Gap between upper and lower deck - 37
• Weight - 4,7 kg

*all dimensions in millimetres


https://www.schmidtarray.com/product-page/sa450
https://www.facebook.com/schmidtarray/?ref=py_c
Title: Re: Boss MS-3 MULTI EFFECTS SWITCHER
Post by: jwhitcomb3 on June 28, 2017, 10:16:31 AM
Quote from: Peter the GR-eat... on June 27, 2017, 03:13:00 PM
But do you have press ctrl 1 and 2 at the same time  for bank down and ctrl 3 and 4 for bank up?

I'm asking because I have trouble with pressing ctrl 1 and 2 for tuner on my GP-10
That is the default setting, yes. However, the bank up/down functions may be assigned to an external controller (and the 1+2 and 3+4 functions may be disabled).
Title: Re: Boss MS-3 MULTI EFFECTS SWITCHER
Post by: Peter the GR-eat... on June 28, 2017, 11:14:07 AM
Quote from: jwhitcomb3 on June 28, 2017, 10:16:31 AM
That is the default setting, yes. However, the bank up/down functions may be assigned to an external controller (and the 1+2 and 3+4 functions may be disabled).

Ok great! Thanks for clarifying.
Title: Re: Boss MS-3 MULTI EFFECTS SWITCHER
Post by: Sevenmodes on July 04, 2017, 09:50:54 PM
BIG DISCOVERY tonight (for me anyway)!!!

The MS-3 has Global tap tempo capability... something that is painfully missing in my GT-100. I have had to run a FS-5U through a MIDI converter into the GT to set the BPM through a clock and the results are unpredictable sometimes.

No more with the MS-3! I found under "Menu" -> "Pref" you can assign BPM to be PATCH or SYSTEM (along with all other CTL and assigns). The GT allows you to set numerous parameters to SYSTEM in the preferences, but not BPM. Nice job BOSS!

So now I have my FS-5U running into CTL 1/2 jack on CTL 1 controlling Global tap tempo... no more re-tapping between Patch changes (verse to chorus and back).

Also, regarding Bank switching, I have mine set up like Elantric shows... except I have an FS-6 running into CTL 3/4.

A couple of notes:

You have to set your CTLs (for Bank +/- ... 1/2 or 3/4) to SYSTEM under the Preferences (so it will work on every Patch). Otherwise it will only work in the Patch you set it up on. Note: Set the CTLs to SYSTEM in PREFS, edit the CTLs once in a Patch, Write, and it will copy to all Patches.

If you use an FS-6, you have to make sure you have your TOGGLE/MOMENT/LATCH settings correctly or the Banks will continuously cycle. Mine seems to work with A/B switches on the FS-6 set to MOMENTARY and the MS-3 CTL settings on TOGGLE.
Title: Re: Boss MS-3 MULTI EFFECTS SWITCHER
Post by: Peter the GR-eat... on July 05, 2017, 02:11:13 PM
Thanks thats good to now!
I WANT THIS THING!!!
They still haven't got it in my music store.. ARGH!
Title: Re: Boss MS-3 MULTI EFFECTS SWITCHER
Post by: Jim Williams on July 06, 2017, 04:57:20 AM
Don't think of it as another GT multi effects board it is a loop pedal switcher with the pedals built in and 3 external loops you can put your own favorite pedals in. on the front of the board there 4 foot switched you can select patches and in the other mode you can have them turn things on and off. by it self in preset mode you can step on 1 and 2 to bank up or 3 and 4 to bank down. it will except a midi controller or you can get a Boss FS-7 for bank up and down. you can also use the FS-7 as 2 control switches and and plug in a expression pedal. you have complete control over how you set it up with your pedal board. Keep in mind there is no amp and cab modeling it is just effects. It was built for the guys with tube amps that need more control over their pedal boards.
Title: Re: Boss MS-3 MULTI EFFECTS SWITCHER
Post by: jwhitcomb3 on July 06, 2017, 05:37:49 AM
Quote from: Jim Williams on July 06, 2017, 04:57:20 AM
It was built for the guys with tube amps that need more control over their pedal boards.
Seems to work okay with solid state amps too.  :D

While the loops are certainly nice to have (although limited since individual loops can't be re-ordered), it works great as a stand-alone fly rig. So far I am very, very pleased. I'm looking forward to the release of the editor/librarian software.
Title: Re: Boss MS-3 MULTI EFFECTS SWITCHER
Post by: Jerry K on August 04, 2017, 04:30:57 PM
I am wondering if anyone has any additional thoughts on using this in front of a tube amp?  I was reading at the TGP and it gets mixed results.  Seems like it could be a great product!
Title: Re: Boss MS-3 MULTI EFFECTS SWITCHER
Post by: guitarno on August 07, 2017, 08:16:51 AM
Looks like this may be a possibility for me soon. I'm looking for a simple multi-FX unit to use with a tube amp, without amp or cab modeling. A couple of questions for anyone here that may have some insights:

How can I use the control outs to switch amp channels on an amp with a proprietary footswitch (Mesa Mark V:35)? Seems I would need a breakout box to go between them and into the mesa footswitch jack for that.

I have a Boss GP-10 which I like a lot but it leaves something to be desired as far as connectibility and integration with other systems.
How can I use the MS-3 with the GP-10? Would I put the GP-10 in one of the MS-3 loops? Or is the best way just to use the guitar out of the GP-10 as the input to the MS-3? Doing that I would end up with 2 separate signal paths that I'd either must combine, or maybe route the GP-10 to a separate amp.

My apologies in advance for not doing the required hunting on my own. If there are posts about this please point me to them. I will have to spend some time looking for some answers for these issues.

Thanks!

Title: Re: Boss MS-3 MULTI EFFECTS SWITCHER
Post by: carlb on August 08, 2017, 10:38:36 AM
What effects do you want to use, and in what order? Do you need to change order?

That will likely change what your solution will look like.

The goal is to do what you want, while keeping the organizational cluster-muck to a minimum.

Title: Re: Boss MS-3 MULTI EFFECTS SWITCHER
Post by: guitarno on August 08, 2017, 12:07:50 PM
Quote from: carlb on August 08, 2017, 10:38:36 AM
What effects do you want to use, and in what order? Do you need to change order?

That will likely change what your solution will look like.

The goal is to do what you want, while keeping the organizational cluster-muck to a minimum.

Yeah that's a good goal. I'll take as little "Cluster-Muck" as I can get. ;D  I'm going to find out soon enough: The MS-3 sounds very practical for me on several levels and my curiosity got the best of me and I just ordered one. I'll find out how well it works in tandem with a GP-10. How best to route signals is what I'm pondering for now. Especially using them both with a traditional tube guitar amp. I may need to route the output of the GP-10 into a separate amp/speaker for some of the more synthy sounds. We'll see how it goes. 8)
Title: Re: Boss MS-3 MULTI EFFECTS SWITCHER
Post by: MrHaroldA on September 26, 2017, 05:37:08 AM
I own an MS-3, and I'm trying to use the USB port to extend it in this topic (https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=19707.0).

Toggling things like FX1 is easy; but the display keeps flashing "BULK DATA RECEIVING...", which is quite annoying. As soon as that is resolved, I plan to build a 5 foot switch controller that mimics a traditional pedal board loop switcher ...

More to follow soon!
Title: Re: Boss MS-3 MULTI EFFECTS SWITCHER
Post by: ACFerguson on September 27, 2017, 05:57:59 AM
Quote from: jwhitcomb3 on June 26, 2017, 12:01:56 PM
Mine arrived Saturday. The upside for the editor/librarian not being available until July is I was forced to learn how to program via the physical interface. Actually, not bad at all. A whole lot of power and flexibility for such a small footprint.

I like being able to assign a function to subsequent presses of the current preset button (preset mode only). I've already found that to be useful to toggle the solo for the preset, or for tap tempo access (although I think I'll end up having a dedicated external foot switch for that).

Would you be willing to explain (or make a short video) about how you "assign a function to subsequent presses of the current preset button"? This sounds hugely useful. However, I'm very much a newbie when it comes to programming patches!

Cheers,

AC
Title: Re: Boss MS-3 MULTI EFFECTS SWITCHER
Post by: jwhitcomb3 on September 29, 2017, 10:06:20 AM
Quote from: ACFerguson on September 27, 2017, 05:57:59 AM
Would you be willing to explain (or make a short video) about how you "assign a function to subsequent presses of the current preset button"? This sounds hugely useful. However, I'm very much a newbie when it comes to programming patches!
When in memory mode, subsequent presses of the currently selected preset may be used to toggle a selectable parameter. To do this, press the "edit" button and use the [1] knob to scroll over to CTL. Then press the "Enter" button to display the CTL parameters. Use the [1] knob to scroll over to "Current Number SW." Press "Enter," then select the parameter that is controlled when you operate the number switch of the currently selected patch in memory mode. See page 30 of the MS-3 Parameter Guide for a list of targets you can control.
Title: Re: Boss MS-3 MULTI EFFECTS SWITCHER
Post by: ChrisX on November 07, 2017, 06:24:23 AM
Quote from: Elantric on June 21, 2017, 04:00:27 PM
https://youtu.be/A-76WPeZERw
I'm seriously excited about this one (Boss MS-3)! Top shelf Boss effects and the unit is built like a tank. Also the controls and editing are really clear and easy to use.

Does anyone know what guitar that is? 

24 fret strat w/ floyd.  That is a unicorn.
Title: Re: Boss MS-3 MULTI EFFECTS SWITCHER
Post by: Elantric on November 07, 2017, 06:36:35 AM
Quote from: ChrisX on November 07, 2017, 06:24:23 AM
Does anyone know what guitar that is? 

24 fret strat w/ floyd.  That is a unicorn.

Reading the YouTube comments reveal

QuoteJames Ryan wrote>


Yeah man! Schecter SVSS with swapped PU's Duncan's all the way. Stag Mag in the neck and Screaming demon for the bridge

http://www.schecterguitars.com/guitars/sun-valley-super-shredder

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Title: Re: Boss MS-3 MULTI EFFECTS SWITCHER
Post by: HAMERMAN409 on November 07, 2017, 06:58:41 AM
Quote from: ChrisX on November 07, 2017, 06:24:23 AM
24 fret strat w/ floyd.  That is a unicorn.

Good call on the Schecter.

If you are OK with older and  used a Fender "HM Strat" is also an option.

Title: Re: Boss MS-3 MULTI EFFECTS SWITCHER FAQ
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Title: Re: Boss MS-3 MULTI EFFECTS SWITCHER FAQ
Post by: DutchGuitarDude on December 07, 2019, 03:58:59 PM
I have the ms3 for 2 weeks now. I tried it with 4cm with my amp1. It noticed a tonal change. Only in the loop of the amp1 it's fine. Anyone noticed this too?
Title: Re: Boss MS-3 MULTI EFFECTS SWITCHER FAQ
Post by: visiondesign on January 23, 2020, 09:45:17 AM
I use the MS3 with my Friedman Runt 20 with channel switching. It has been working fine and has now all of the sudden stopped working. Ive tried the MS3 with a couple different amps with no luck so the switching issue is within the MS3. Not sure if this happened after an update to the unit or not. Is anyone else experiencing this issue? Is there a possible workaround / reset that may exist that anyone knows of? Thanx!
Title: Re: Boss MS-3 MULTI EFFECTS SWITCHER FAQ
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