Line6 Sonic Port VX

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Elantric

www.line6.com/sonicport-audio-interface/sonicport-vx/

http://line6.com/data/6/0a064339177015409e96999a37/application/pdf/Sonic%20Port%20VX%20Pilot's%20Guide%20-%20English%20(%20Rev%20A%20).pdf

http://www.musiciansfriend.com/pro-audio/line-6-sonic-port-vx

$199






Line 6
SONIC PORT VX
Overview Sonic Port VX Sonic Port Specifications
SONIC PORT VX
The anywhere, everywhere audio interface with built-in mics



           


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PRO-QUALITY RECORDING — ON THE GO
Record amazing tracks anywhere.
With Sonic Port™ VX, it's finally possible to record complete songs anywhere inspiration strikes. The guitar/bass input features 120dB of dynamic range for incomparable tone and best-in-class dynamics. A stereo line input lets you record keys, drum machines, DJ mixers and other sources. Zero-latency monitoring means you can record without distraction. And with professional-level 1/4" stereo outputs, you can easily connect studio monitors and perfect your mixes. With Sonic Port VX, the world is your studio.


BUILT-IN STEREO AND MONO CONDENSER MICS
Record studio-quality vocals, instruments and stereo sources.
Sonic Port VX brings three built-in professional condenser microphones to the party. Matched stereo mics let you record live performances with remarkable clarity. The mono front-facing mic is perfect for capturing the raw energy of your songwriting sessions. Track guitars in the green room, drums in your rehearsal space and vocals in the living room—and make every demo worthy of being the final take. Inspiration can strike anytime, so capture it wherever you are with Sonic Port VX.



SEAMLESS PERFORMANCE WITH iOS, MAC AND PC
Keep your mind on the music, not the machine.
With seamless compatibility on iOS, Mac® and PC, Sonic Port VX gives you the power to create on any device, at any location. Sneak into a cathedral and record soaring vocals right to your iPad®. Track thundering drums in a stairwell. Then add additional tracks and fine-tune the mix in your home studio. Sonic Port VX includes a Lightning cable connection so you can use your iOS device along with Mobile POD®, GarageBand®, and other Core Audio music apps to easily record complete songs, without restrictions.


LEGENDARY LINE 6 GUITAR TONE
Jam with the sounds of your favorite artists.
What do you get when you combine an unrivaled audio interface with legendary Line 6 tones? The best way to track guitar or bass, wherever you are. The included Mobile POD app gives you over 10,000 presets designed by artists, Line 6 and other players—plus the ability to mix and match 32 amps, 16 effects and 16 speaker cabs to define your own sound. Mobile POD also lets you use your custom tones when playing along with your iTunes® library.*



READY FOR ALL-NIGHT SESSIONS
Professional mobile recording. Made easy.
We put a lot of thought into the Sonic Port VX design, so it's built with handy features that make mobile recording easier than ever. Need to track long sessions or record live performances? No problem. Plug a USB power supply into Sonic Port VX and it simultaneously powers your iOS device, so you'll never lack the necessary battery charge. Also, with features like a tabletop stand with mic stand adapter, and a 1/4" thread for tripod connections, you can put Sonic Port VX where you need to capture great recordings

Syph

Good find there, pretty damn neat looking unit. Can't help but notice it doesn't support the iPad 3rd gen, and so it's obsolescence begins...
Oh well, until then I still have the scarlette 2i4 going! (Thanks Elantric!)

Elantric

#2
QuoteCan't help but notice it doesn't support the iPad 3rd gen, and so it's obsolescence begins...

Not true -
* Sonic Port VX  can be used with  iPad  / iPhone / iPod Touch  - even older 30 pin dock iPads, using optional 30 pin dock cable
(buy it at FullCompass)
Line 6 21-34-0230  - 3 Foot iOS Cable for Mobile Keys 25 and 49
http://www.fullcompass.com/product/457008.html


http://thehub.musiciansfriend.com/ios-reviews/hands-on-review-line-6-sonic-port-vx-audio-interface
Hands-On Review: Line 6 Sonic Port VX Audio Interface
Posted on Saturday, 06 September 2014 14:25.
   
By Chris Loeffler
Harmony Central Associate Editor

Line 6 has been in the game of pushing the boundaries of what a guitar player can do with digital technology by marrying a reverence for classic tones and "the way things used to be" with a desire to break through the limitations imposed by "traditional" gear. Having built and maintained their reputation as the industry leader in affordable guitar, amp, and effect modelling almost two decades ago, Line 6 has been conspicuously turning their focus on integrating the guitar experience into consumer-focused devices and tapping in to the rich ecosystem of mobile devices, tablets, and laptops. The Line 6 Sonic Port VX is their latest foray into this world and features a price-point, feature set, and ease of use that's sure to raise eyebrows.

Line 6 Sonic Port VX Inputs
Going mobile

With superior 24-bit/48kHz audio quality and a 120dB dynamic range, the Line 6 Sonic Port VX is a zero-latency, all-in-one mobile audio interface made to connect a guitar (or other instrument) to an iOS device as well as a standard PC/MAC for practice, jamming, and recording. Building on the guitar-centric input/output feature set of the original Line 6 Sonic Port, which included a ¼" input for guitars, 1/8" stereo input, stereo/mono ¼" guitar/line-level output, and 1/8" headphone output, the Sonic Port VX replaces the ¼" output with two balanced ¼" outputs to run independent stereo channels into studio monitors or a mixer. The included USB and 14-pin to Lightning cables provide comprehensive connectivity to all supported devices.

Where the Line 6 Sonic Port VX branches out in interesting and wonderful ways from the base Sonic Port is the addition of stereo and mono condenser mics, built directly into the unit. Supported by professional mic preamps, both microphones actively capture acoustic instruments; hand drums, mandolins, acoustic guitars, and vocals with toneful depth, clarity, and presence that is mix-ready. A small toggle switch on the side selects between guitar/instrument, stereo microphones, or mono microphone, expanding recording possibilities to include capturing ambient sounds on the go (or even in the studio) without the hassle or additional gear required when using multiple units. The included tabletop stand is well designed, adjustable, and is flexible enough to address almost any miking situation.

Fully loaded

Aimed at guitar players, the Sonic Port VX stacks the deck with recording-quality ready modeling via the Mobile Pod app. The Mobile Pod app (available for free via the iTunes App Store) is central to the Sonic Port VX ecosystem, giving users access to over 32 highly customizable guitar amp models, 16 speaker cabinets, and a dozen guitar effects via a visual, user-friendly interface on any iOS device. The models can be mixed, matched, and tweaked to the players' content and then saved for instant access later on. While traditionalists will continue to grumble about anything less than a $3000 tube amp, the amps, cabinets, and effects all breathe, respond, and (most importantly) sound so accurate that listening to a playback renders any argument that modeling can't match the tone of tube technology moot. With room for hundreds of user and factory presets and access to tens of thousands of tones from the Customtone.com community sortable by style and artist, there is no end to sonic inspiration. The Sonic Port VX also seamlessly integrates with GarageBand and Jammit, making recording as simple as opening the GarageBand app with the Sonic Port VX plugged in and jamming as simple as selecting a song in Jammit.

Line 6 Sonic Port VX iPad and Guitar Interface

Onward and upward

One of the biggest factors to Line 6's success has been the ability to take cutting-edge technology and make it accessible and intuitive to guitar players raised on "crank it and forget it" analog gear. While a certain number of players have the desire and aptitude to go deep into recording technology, most players just want to capture their performance with as little fuss and as much quality as possible. The simplicity and utility of the hardware makes the Sonic Port VX practically a manual-free proposition for most players, and the graphics-driven user interface of the Mobile Pod app completely mimics the knob tweaking and signal-chain shuffle players have relied on for decades. The addition of the onboard mics expands the Sonic Port VX's possibilities beyond guitar and opens up the world of mobile recording for any acoustic or percussion instrument.


And if you need a USB Cable for MAcOS

Line 6 21-34-2000 USB Cable For Mobile Keys 25, 49, Sonic Port

https://www.fullcompass.com/prod/532626-line-6-21-34-2000-usb-cable-for-mobile-keys-25-49-sonic-port

Elantric

#3
The most interesting aspect of the new Sonic Port VX
http://line6.com/sonicport-audio-interface/specs/
Bus-powered design with ultra-low power draw; optional USB power supply powers Sonic Port™ VX and iOS device


Sonic Port vs Sonic Port VX - Yes They Are different



Only the SonicPort VX can connect to the USB connection to Mac/Win PC.



The SonicPort can NOT make the USB connection





http://line6.com/support/page/kb/_/mobile-products/sonic-port-mobile-in/sonicportconnections











SONIC PORT VX CONNECTIONS





1. Before connecting the Sonic Port VX, check your iPad, iPhone or iPod touch to be sure you have the latest version of the iOS operating system installed. Instructions for updating your iOS device are available HERE.



2. In order to enjoy POD® amp and effects processing, you'll need our free Mobile POD application. The Mobile POD app also provides firmware updates to the Sonic Port VX hardware.



If your iPad, iPhone or iPod touch has internet access, we recommend that you first download and install our Mobile POD app from the App Store app before you attach your Sonic Port VX for the first time. Simply search for 'Mobile POD' on the app store to find and download the Mobile POD app.



3. If you are using the Sonic Port VX with a iOS device, connect Sonic Port VX to your iPad, iPhone or iPod touch using the included 14-pin to Lightning connector cable. The Sonic Port VX has a red LED located on it's top side that will blink once a few seconds after the Sonic Port VX is successfully recognized by your iOS device. If you want to power/charge your iOS device (Lightning only) while using the Sonic Port VX, you can additionally connect the supplied USB-mini cable from the Sonic Port VX into a iOS USB power supply. If you are using the Sonic Port VX with a Windows computer, first make sure and download the Sonic Port Windows Drivers from our software page HERE before you connect the Sonic Port to your computer. If you are using the Sonic Port VX with MAC OS X 10.9 or above computer you will not need to install any drivers. To connect the Sonic Port VX to your computer simply use the supplied USB-A to USB-mini cable to connect it to your computer. Click the photo below for an illustration of these connections:



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4. Connect your 1/4" instrument or other audio source to Sonic Port VX or Sonic Port. The Sonic Port VX and Sonic Port can only use one input source at a time, it will use whichever input is connected to first:

Using Guitar In (mono): Connect a standard 1/4" guitar cable to the Sonic Port guitar input, then plug the other end into your guitar.
Using AUX IN : Connect a standard stereo 1/8" line cable to the Sonic Port VX AUX input, then plug the other end into a line level audio output of your source equipment such as a keyboard, drum machine, mixer, or music player.
5. Connect two mono 1/4" Tip Sleeve cables to the Sonic Port VX's individual Left and Right outputs, then plug the other ends into a playback device such as a mixer, studio monitors, or powered PA speakers to monitor your audio. You can also connect one mono 1/4" Tip Sleeve calbe to only the Sonic Port VX's left output and the Sonic Port VX will sum together both the Right and Left outputs to allow you to connect it to mono sources such as a guitar or bass amp. To connect a pair of headphones or desktop speakers to the Sonic Port VX simply connect the 1/8" stereo cable into the 1/8" Headphone output on the Sonic Port VX. Click the photo below for a illustration of these connections:





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6. If you would like to set the Sonic Port VX up on a mic stand or the included tabletop stand start off by threading the supplied mic stand mount onto the base of the Sonic Port VX. If you would like to use the Sonic Port VX on a mic stand, you can then simply attach the mic stand mount to a mic stand. If you would like to use the included table top stand for the Sonic Port VX, place the mic stand mount onto the tabletop stand and fasten them together using the supplied 1/4" thread as shown in the illustration below:



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We recommend that you place the Sonic Port VX at least 10" away from the source that you are trying to record with the built in mics. We also recommend that you use pop screen with the Sonic Port VX when you are recording vocals.



7. Once you have made all your connections launch the iOS or computer app of your choice and your ready to go.

















SONIC PORT CONNECTIONS





1. Before connecting the Sonic Port, check your iPad, iPhone or iPod touch to be sure you have the latest version of the iOS operating system installed. Instructions for updating your iOS device are available HERE.



2. In order to enjoy POD® amp and effects processing, you'll need our free Mobile POD application. The Mobile POD app also provides firmware updates to the Sonic Port hardware.



If your iPad, iPhone or iPod touch has internet access, we recommend that you first download and install our Mobile POD app from the App Store app before you attach your Sonic Port for the first time. Simply search for 'Mobile POD' on the app store to find and download the Mobile POD app.



3. Connect the Sonic Port to your iPad, iPhone or iPod touch using the included 14-pin to Lightning connector cable or the 30 pin cable depending on your ios device.The Sonic Port has a red LED located on it's top side that will blink once a few seconds after the Sonic Port is successfully recognized by your iOS device. Click the photo below for a illustration of this connection:



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4. Connect your 1/4" instrument or other audio source to the Sonic Port. The Sonic Port can only use one input source at a time, it will use whichever input is connected to first:

Using Guitar In (mono): Connect a standard 1/4" guitar cable to the Sonic Port guitar input, then plug the other end into your guitar.
Using IN L/R: Connect a standard stereo 1/8" line cable to the Sonic Port IN L/R input, then plug the other end into a line level audio output of your source equipment such as a keyboard, drum machine, mixer, or music player.
5. Connect a mono or stereo 1/4" cable to the Sonic Port OUT L/R output, then plug the other end into a playback device such as a guitar amp, mixer or powered speakers to monitor your audio. To connect a pair of headphones or desktop speakers to the Sonic Port simply connect the 1/8" stereo cable into the 1/8" Headphone output on the Sonic Port. Click the photo below for a illustration of these connections:





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6. Once you have made all your connections launch the iOS app of your choice and your ready to go.

SONIC PORT VX CONNECTIONS





1. Before connecting the Sonic Port VX, check your iPad, iPhone or iPod touch to be sure you have the latest version of the iOS operating system installed. Instructions for updating your iOS device are available HERE.



2. In order to enjoy POD® amp and effects processing, you'll need our free Mobile POD application. The Mobile POD app also provides firmware updates to the Sonic Port VX hardware.



If your iPad, iPhone or iPod touch has internet access, we recommend that you first download and install our Mobile POD app from the App Store app before you attach your Sonic Port VX for the first time. Simply search for 'Mobile POD' on the app store to find and download the Mobile POD app.



3. If you are using the Sonic Port VX with a iOS device, connect Sonic Port VX to your iPad, iPhone or iPod touch using the included 14-pin to Lightning connector cable. The Sonic Port VX has a red LED located on it's top side that will blink once a few seconds after the Sonic Port VX is successfully recognized by your iOS device. If you want to power/charge your iOS device (Lightning only) while using the Sonic Port VX, you can additionally connect the supplied USB-mini cable from the Sonic Port VX into a iOS USB power supply. If you are using the Sonic Port VX with a Windows computer, first make sure and download the Sonic Port Windows Drivers from our software page HERE before you connect the Sonic Port to your computer. If you are using the Sonic Port VX with MAC OS X 10.9 or above computer you will not need to install any drivers. To connect the Sonic Port VX to your computer simply use the supplied USB-A to USB-mini cable to connect it to your computer. Click the photo below for an illustration of these connections:



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4. Connect your 1/4" instrument or other audio source to Sonic Port VX or Sonic Port. The Sonic Port VX and Sonic Port can only use one input source at a time, it will use whichever input is connected to first:

Using Guitar In (mono): Connect a standard 1/4" guitar cable to the Sonic Port guitar input, then plug the other end into your guitar.
Using AUX IN : Connect a standard stereo 1/8" line cable to the Sonic Port VX AUX input, then plug the other end into a line level audio output of your source equipment such as a keyboard, drum machine, mixer, or music player.
5. Connect two mono 1/4" Tip Sleeve cables to the Sonic Port VX's individual Left and Right outputs, then plug the other ends into a playback device such as a mixer, studio monitors, or powered PA speakers to monitor your audio. You can also connect one mono 1/4" Tip Sleeve calbe to only the Sonic Port VX's left output and the Sonic Port VX will sum together both the Right and Left outputs to allow you to connect it to mono sources such as a guitar or bass amp. To connect a pair of headphones or desktop speakers to the Sonic Port VX simply connect the 1/8" stereo cable into the 1/8" Headphone output on the Sonic Port VX. Click the photo below for a illustration of these connections:





ccs-1319933-0-19757000-1409767799_thumb.



6. If you would like to set the Sonic Port VX up on a mic stand or the included tabletop stand start off by threading the supplied mic stand mount onto the base of the Sonic Port VX. If you would like to use the Sonic Port VX on a mic stand, you can then simply attach the mic stand mount to a mic stand. If you would like to use the included table top stand for the Sonic Port VX, place the mic stand mount onto the tabletop stand and fasten them together using the supplied 1/4" thread as shown in the illustration below:



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We recommend that you place the Sonic Port VX at least 10" away from the source that you are trying to record with the built in mics. We also recommend that you use pop screen with the Sonic Port VX when you are recording vocals.



7. Once you have made all your connections launch the iOS or computer app of your choice and your ready to go.

















SONIC PORT CONNECTIONS





1. Before connecting the Sonic Port, check your iPad, iPhone or iPod touch to be sure you have the latest version of the iOS operating system installed. Instructions for updating your iOS device are available HERE.



2. In order to enjoy POD® amp and effects processing, you'll need our free Mobile POD application. The Mobile POD app also provides firmware updates to the Sonic Port hardware.



If your iPad, iPhone or iPod touch has internet access, we recommend that you first download and install our Mobile POD app from the App Store app before you attach your Sonic Port for the first time. Simply search for 'Mobile POD' on the app store to find and download the Mobile POD app.



3. Connect the Sonic Port to your iPad, iPhone or iPod touch using the included 14-pin to Lightning connector cable or the 30 pin cable depending on your ios device.The Sonic Port has a red LED located on it's top side that will blink once a few seconds after the Sonic Port is successfully recognized by your iOS device. Click the photo below for a illustration of this connection:



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4. Connect your 1/4" instrument or other audio source to the Sonic Port. The Sonic Port can only use one input source at a time, it will use whichever input is connected to first:

Using Guitar In (mono): Connect a standard 1/4" guitar cable to the Sonic Port guitar input, then plug the other end into your guitar.
Using IN L/R: Connect a standard stereo 1/8" line cable to the Sonic Port IN L/R input, then plug the other end into a line level audio output of your source equipment such as a keyboard, drum machine, mixer, or music player.
5. Connect a mono or stereo 1/4" cable to the Sonic Port OUT L/R output, then plug the other end into a playback device such as a guitar amp, mixer or powered speakers to monitor your audio. To connect a pair of headphones or desktop speakers to the Sonic Port simply connect the 1/8" stereo cable into the 1/8" Headphone output on the Sonic Port. Click the photo below for a illustration of these connections:





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6. Once you have made all your connections launch the iOS app of your choice and your ready to go.


oleijon

Not so much of a hands-on review, more sales oriented pitch, but I´ll take it!

I have had several Line6 interfaces (but not the Sonic Port) and have been very pleased with them. Still using the original UX1 for running Scuffham amps.

It seems like they have been looking at the Apogee One, and I have no problem with that, I would love to see a neck-to-neck between them both. Personally I am looking for the best way (i.e sound qualuty vs latency) for using Bias in a live environment. I´ll try to check it out at the local store whenever they get them in stock.


Elantric

QuotePersonally I am looking for the best way (i.e sound quality vs latency) for using Bias in a live environment.

That would be the info in these threads:

https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=10323.0

https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=8291.msg61082#msg61082

mbenigni

That's a lot of marketing copy and I'll admit to having skimmed most of it...  the device is billed as a 2-in/2-out audio interface.  I wonder if that means you can track the guitar input and mono condenser mic at the same time?  That would be really cool for making quick demos.

Elantric

#7
QuoteI wonder if that means you can track the guitar input and mono condenser mic at the same time?  That would be really cool for making quick demos.


Apparently you can

Here is the OM:
http://line6.com/data/6/0a064339177015409e96999a37/application/pdf/Sonic%20Port%20VX%20Pilot's%20Guide%20-%20English%20(%20Rev%20A%20).pdf


QuoteThat's a lot of marketing copy and I'll admit to having skimmed most of it...

Its the typical Musicians Friend style review - the only thing  "hands on" was the printed press release from Line-6
http://thehub.musiciansfriend.com/ios-reviews/hands-on-review-line-6-sonic-port-vx-audio-interface
Hands-On Review: Line 6 Sonic Port VX Audio Interface
Posted on Saturday, 06 September 2014 14:25.
   
By Chris Loeffler
Harmony Central Associate Editor


For another  too brief Review  - read Chris Loeffler's Gp-10 Review
http://www.harmonycentral.com/expert-reviews/roland-gp-10-guitar-processor

mbenigni

Ah yes.

QuoteMono microphone + Guitar In (In
your software, mic appears as
input 1/L and Guitar appears as
input 2/R)

That is seriously cool.  I'll wait for reviews concerning latency etc. - and the inevitable price drop, of course - but this has my attention.

oleijon

#9
Quote from: Elantric on September 08, 2014, 10:58:27 AM
That would be the info in these threads:

https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=10323.0

https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=8291.msg61082#msg61082

Yes, I have read them, the Focusrite Scarlett one several times actually. The wealth of information thats coming from you Elantric is priceless, thanks!

I was actually considering the iTrack Dock as well since I would like to use my FBV Express mk II as well. We´ll see how it pans out.

Thanks!

Elantric

#10
QuoteI was actually considering the iTrack Dock as well since I would like to use my FBV Express mk II as well.


http://forum.loopyapp.com/discussion/2218/alesis-io-dock-ii-verses-focusrite-itrack-dock/p1
QuoteI just got the Focusrite iTrack because of the USB host port. It's a little-known fact that the Line 6 FBV MkII boards are USB HID-compliant midi controllers and I've been waiting for the iTrack to be released. So far I've had some initial success -- Loopy recgonized the midi signals coming in from the FBV Shortboard MkII. However, I need to re-program the buttons on the FBV board which involves connecting it to a computer that's running the Line 6 control program.

The great thing about this setup will be that the FBV board is USB-powered, so no need for another power supply or batteries.Will report back when I make more progress.
I'm also disappointed that only one USB midi device is possible with the iTrack -- thinking of returning it and ordering the iConnect iMidi4+ which is the same price. It lacks the nice docking feature of the iTrack, but has amazing options for connectivity. It still charges the iOS device while connected and the host USB port supports up to 8 devices with a powered USB hub. At the same time you can connect 5-pin midi devices and PCs/Macs via midi-over-USB (2 USB device ports). One drawback is that they don't have their own lightning cable yet so the apple 30-pin lightning adapter is required.

It doesn't have built-in mic/line audio inputs but appears to provide a USB class-compliant audio interface to USB connected devices. I think this means you could connect a USB audio interface to the powered USB hub on the host port and have everything you need. Worth a look.

Other than that you just plug it into the iTrack dock USB host port and it works. Even the expression pedal works with loopy (I set it up as track volume).

It's nice that the FBV is usb powered, no extra power adapter. The FBV MKII boards are easy to find used (ebay, guitar center, craigslist, etc), the express (4 buttons + exp pedal) goes for $40-50 and the Shortboard (13 buttons + exp pedal + port for 2nd exp pedal) can be found for $80-100.

Note: Be very sure you're getting the MKII and not the original FBV. Only the MKII models have USB.


Understand that the USB Host port on the iTrack Dock will not support a USB Hub  - so its one MIDI  device at time only.
Meanwhile I anxiously await the release of the iConnectivity iConnectAudio 4+

https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=10419.0




iConnectAudio 4+'s rear USB Host port supports a powered USB Hub - and allows connection to multiple USB MIDI devices 

But read my review of the iConnectAudio 4+ before you order one.
https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=10419.0

cell7

Quote from: Elantric on September 08, 2014, 10:48:00 AM
But I'm a bit hesitant because the original Sonic Port has miserably higher latency compared to a 24 bit  Appogee Jam or IK iRig Pro. I fear the new Line6 Sonic Port VX uses the same sluggish chipset as the Line6 Sonic Port.
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Just a point to make regarding latency of all these devices, i actually have all 3 and measured the round-trip latency on an iPhone 5s via the app AUD-1. This measures output to input latency by transmitting a burst of noise which i then recorded back via a mic through the various inputs.

settings:
audio buffer samples - 64
active stereo channels - 1

results over 3 readings per device:
- line-6 Sonic port average = 548 samples [12.4ms]
- ikMultimedia iRig pro average = 548 samples [12.4ms]
- apogee Jam average [using Apple 30pin to lightning converter] = 550 samples [12.5ms]
- apple mic/line input [ie. using  the original iRig or  headphone mics etc] = 420 samples [9.5ms]


So - not a conclusive real-world test using the music apps, but i was certainly surprised that it went against some other feedback about the line6 latency. Also interesting to see that the headphone mic input is actually the fastest!

Elantric

QuoteAlso interesting to see that the headphone mic input is actually the fastest!

No surprise there  - the internal Audio CODEC  hardware has a closer layer of communication with the CPU  - thus the lower latency 

cell7

Quote from: Elantric on September 09, 2014, 07:27:34 AM
No surprise there  - the internal Audio CODEC  hardware has a closer layer of communication with the CPU  - thus the lower latency 

yeah, 3ms is quite a substantial latency saving - i guess my main surprise was that it was THAT much faster.

Elantric

#14
Quote
yeah, iPad Headset input  being 3ms is quite a substantial latency saving - i guess my main surprise was that it was THAT much faster.

But still worthless, since the iPad Headset input  yields substantial white noise ( due to running your guitar through the internal iPad Mic Pre) and forces a requirement to employ the Noise Gate inside your IOS Amp Sim (Bias, ToneStack, Flying Hagis, Amplitube)

I hate noise gates, as I play music with a lot of dynamic range   


Toby Krebs

Well thats not good to see. I was curious about this one but wondering if the cab modelling sucks like it does in my HD500. Ive got my IRIG HD/Ipad/Jamup Pro/ Blueboard rig working well enough to gig it so I think I will stop for now and see what else is happening.

Elantric

#16
Ive heard Line-6 SonicPort IOS interfaces typically suffer higher latency compared to competition.
The Line-6 Mobile-In was a rather dreadful interface with constant disconnects. 


I vote the Irig Pro with 24bit audio and MIDi Input in a small package remains among the top IOS interfaces for a guitarists

http://www.ikmultimedia.com/products/irigpro/

Toby Krebs

I will agree with the Irig being the best as I am loving mine.
Time to buy a spare lol!

Elantric

http://forum.audiob.us/discussion/5696/line-6-sonic-port-vs-irig-hd-vs-apogee-jam

QuoteYes, the SonicPort VX comes with a lightning cable AND a USB cable, and both can be used at the same time, so you can charge your iDevice through the USB cable connected to it's charging brick while the SP VX is connected to your iDevice for music. You can use the USB cable alone to connect the SPVX to your Mac or PC too. The thing would be perfect if it wasn't for the absence of a physical level control in it. I am really bothered about mine because of this, for I havent managed yet to make a satisfying recording with the low levels I'm getting from it. But it's been less than a week since I got it. In fact, I found this thread while looking for a solution on Google. If anybody has some suggestion, it'll be very appreciated. Thanks

Elantric

#19
With the arrival of my Iphone 6 Plus  - Ive been re-exploring Audio interfaces.

I located a used  Line6 Sonic Port VX for $150, and Ive been evaluating it with my Iphone 6 Plus running IOS 8.1.2

Compared to prior Line 6 Mobile Interfaces for Iphone  - I'm having a far better time with the Sonic Port VX.

It does a few unique things. There are two rear access ports for computer I/O cables

* Proprietary Plug for Proprietary IOS Lightning cable or 30 pin Cable connection)
* Micro USB port can connect to Macs/PCs using downloadable USB Audio Driver from Line-6.

When the  Sonic Port VX's Lightning cable is used to connect the Sonic Port VX to iPhone 6 Plus, or Ipad Air,  the remaining
Micro USB port can connect to any USB  2.1 Amp Power Adapter and charge the IOS device the Sonic Port VX is connected to. But note that the AC Power Connection does compromise the Noise Floor ( with additional 120 HZ Hum ) - luckily a large Portable Battery for USB power can be used for lower noise



The SonicPort VX is about twice as big "in person" and larger than the older Sonic Port.

As reported earlier in this thread , The Sonic Port VX Audio latency is identical to the Appogee JAM and  IK Multimedia iRig Pro.

Using my iPhone 6 Plus, and the IOS app "AUD-1" ( which measures Audio latency on IOS devices ) with buffer set to 64 - Sonic Port VX reports a latency delay of 519 Sample and 11.8ms Latency Delay Time  - I attribute the lower 11.8ms latency to the processing power of the iPhone 6 Plus (compared to member "Cell's 12.5 ms measurements with iPhone 5S)


Line-6 Sonic Port VX has  24 bit Audio, low noise Instrument preamp, and Stereo 3.5mm Line Input, a pair of Balanced TRS 1/4" Outputs for driving powered PA cabs, and a clean stereo Headphone Amp with TRS 3.5mm headphone output jack.

There are three internal condenser Mic capsules, and it makes good 24 bit recordings using various IOS apps.

It works well with all IOS Guitar Amp Sims I tried ( Line-6 Mobile POD, Yonac ToneStack, Positive Grid BIAS/ Jamup Pro)     



       

cell7

Quote from: Elantric on December 30, 2014, 04:22:24 PM

Using my iPhone 6 Plus, and the IOS app "AUD-1" ( which measures Audio latency on IOS devices ) with buffer set to 64 - Sonic Port VX reports a latency delay of 519 Sample and 11.8ms Latency Delay Time  - I attribute the lower 11.8ms latency to the processing power of the iPhone 6 Plus (compared to member "Cell's 12.5 ms measurements with iPhone 5S)


Great to hear the new devices shave off some latency - every bit counts! I have to say i do like the Sonic port, even the old one, but I miss a gain dial. Its the only thing it was lacking.

Elantric

#21
Been using the Irig PRO, and now the Sonic Port VX and  - it makes me want to trim down the gain a bit more on the iRig Pro.  - When iRig Pro Instrument Input level is set to "09:00 o-clock" - this matches the fixed Instrument input gain sensitivity on Line6 Sonic Port VX.

Elantric

#22
I got a new micro USB cable - and now I can successfully use the the Line6 Sonic Port VX as a USB Class Compliant Audio Interface "- which means I can swap out the Roland UA-22 Duo Capture EX and use the Line6 Sonic Port VX with a powered USB Hub for Mobile Fishman Tripleplay on IOS rig.

But I love the Roland UA-22 - as this provides most of what everyone needs:
* 5pin DIN MIDI I/O

* Internal AA Batteries provide less current drain on the iPad

* USB Class Compliant when in "Tab" (iPad) mode - easier to "restart" compared to Scarlet 2i4 should a power glitch occur mid set.

The Scarlett 2i4 has a bit lower noise than UA-22 - but you must follow a specific  order for powering up the  Powered USB Hub and  Scarlett 2i4 First,  and then connect the USB Hub to  the iPad+CCK

So far for Fishman Tripleplay use on iPad , follow the steps in the link here to use a battery powered USB HUB and a USB Class Compliant Audio Interface
https://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=10323.0

Elantric

I just ordered a Sonic Port VX older ipad 30 pin cable here:

SonicPort VX uses the identical adapter cable as used with Line 6 Mobile keys

https://www.globalfulfillment.net/gfsnet/line6/10Expand.aspx?ProductCode=98-035-0002
Mobile Keys/Sonic Port 30-pin iOS Cable
Product Code: 98-035-0002 98-035-0002_l.jpg3ft locking iOS cable for your Mobile Keys or Sonic Port Family devices

$24.99


http://www.fullcompass.com/product/457008.html

Line 6 21-34-0230
3 Foot iOS Cable for Mobile Keys 25 and 49
OUR PART #  21-34-0230


Contact Line 6 direct If you need the SonicPort Lighning cable
Part# 21-34-0240  (CABLE,LIGHTNING SONICPORT)  $34.00 each + shipping

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Elantric