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Wavemachine Labs - Auria DAW for the iPad
« on: July 18, 2012, 12:53:18 AM »
The new multitrack DAW called Auria has reached prime time. Made by WaveMachine Labs, the team behind Drumagog. Downloaded it yesterday and tried it for a couple of hours. This app rocks! A must buy for the traveling recording musician.

www.auriaapp.com
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Offline cell7

Re: Wavemachine Labs - Auria DAW for the iPad
« Reply #1 on: July 18, 2012, 03:00:57 AM »
one question before i drop a 50 on this - can you monitor the signal real-time through the plugins? If so how low is the latency? Im keen...

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Re: Wavemachine Labs - Auria DAW for the iPad
« Reply #2 on: July 18, 2012, 10:44:46 AM »
I'm splashing out for the THM tomorrow. Will check with both the VG and my Presonus VSL and report back ASAP. Just used it for some mastering and easy mixing yet and those features makes up for the price tag.
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Offline mbenigni

Re: Wavemachine Labs - Auria DAW for the iPad
« Reply #3 on: July 18, 2012, 10:50:31 AM »
Wow - iOS VST support?  Does this mean I can run NI Guitar Rig on an iPad??  Or am I dreaming?

Offline Elantric

Re: Wavemachine Labs - Auria DAW for the iPad
« Reply #4 on: July 18, 2012, 11:12:13 AM »
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Wow - iOS VST support

You are dreaming - but AU support is here

Basically WaveMachine Labs have worked with some third party  VSTi suppliers to create Auria compatible plugins - which cost $$ - you could easily spend $165 if you order all the Auria optional bells and whistles with these plugins.
(more here:)
http://auriaapp.com/Products/auria-tour

I was doing the Auria beta and I'm sure the final version is OK
For those interested in Auria on iPad -Read this excellent article on using the Presonus 1818VSL with iPAD and Auria
http://www.macprovideo.com/hub/review-2/review-presonus-audiobox-1818-vsl-an-interface-for-ipad-and-mac-musicians
http://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=6619.0

Frankly I get a lot more mileage from Meteor Multitrack ($19.95) - that works very well for me on my iPad.
 
http://itunes.apple.com/us/app/meteor-multitrack-recorder/id417726727?mt=8&ls=1


http://www.4pockets.com/product_info_apple.php?p=8&nb=4


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Offline mbenigni

Re: Wavemachine Labs - Auria DAW for the iPad
« Reply #5 on: July 18, 2012, 11:55:31 AM »
Thanks.  Thought that sounded too good to be true.   ;D

Offline cell7

Re: Wavemachine Labs - Auria DAW for the iPad
« Reply #6 on: July 19, 2012, 06:04:36 AM »
Im interested to see how well the THM guitar plug works. This could be the solution i was looking for to add the completely nasty fuzz/crushed tones to the vg99 signal paths without carrying my laptop around...  perhaps controlling it with the softstep. Hmmm :)

Offline mbenigni

Re: Wavemachine Labs - Auria DAW for the iPad
« Reply #7 on: July 19, 2012, 08:30:23 AM »
Thanks.  Thought that sounded too good to be true.   ;D

It finally dawned on me last night that I was confusing iOS with MacOS, and free associating from Mac OS VST to MacAU plugins.   ::)

Offline cell7

Re: Wavemachine Labs - Auria DAW for the iPad
« Reply #8 on: July 20, 2012, 03:10:19 AM »
but if you want a low latency mobile IOS Guitar rig app, try JamUp Pro and save some $$

In your opinion this is the best one? i have a bunch of the others like amplitude etc, was never overly impressed. If you say this is your favourite then i will jump on it.

Offline myksara

Re: Wavemachine Labs - Auria DAW for the iPad
« Reply #9 on: August 20, 2012, 12:05:57 PM »
Now since we are talking of apps on the ipad here, I would realy be very interested to know which one is the best that can be used live,if anyone has dared to used the iPad as a multifx live at compact venues..I have tried a lot of those including amplitube,peavy,fender ones on ipad but none impressed me except the amplitube slash multiFx..I could get a few usable sounds from it..

My goal is to go with just my guitar and ipad to the compact venues and go into my roland Cube 80XL ( :-*) and PA..

Any thoughts or any videos of such a rig?
Guitars: Ibanez Prestige S5470, Ibanez Jem 7v, Ibanez JS2410, PRS SE Custom24, Cort  Ltd G16, Ibanez RG370Ahmz,
MultiFX: Roland GR55, Zoom 1on, BOSS GT00
Loopers: Digitech trio+, Line 6 JM4
MIDI:, MAudio Axiom24 keyboard, Alesis IO Dock with iPad air 2

Offline Elantric

Re: Wavemachine Labs - Auria DAW for the iPad
« Reply #10 on: September 11, 2013, 11:30:44 AM »

Auria CPU Saving Tips for iPad 2 with Audiobus



For those interested in Auria on iPad -Read this excellent article on using the Presonus 1818VSL with iPAD and Auria
http://www.macprovideo.com/hub/review-2/review-presonus-audiobox-1818-vsl-an-interface-for-ipad-and-mac-musicians

The latest version of Auria now have an output matrix, so all eighteen outputs of the 1818 can be accessed. This is not the case with other audio apps such as GarageBand or the Music app, whose stereo output does not get mirrored across all outputs, and can therefore only be monitored via outputs 1 and 2, and not the headphone jack. Note that at the time of writing it is a requirement that the 1818 is plugged into a powered USB hub, which is then plugged into the iPad via the Camera Connection Kit.

You should also be aware that the features offered by the VSL software are of course not available when working with an iPad. On the plus side, you can also use your iPad to run the free Presonus SL Remote app, with which you can remote control VSL software running on your Mac, over Wi-Fi.

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Offline admsustainiac

Re: Wavemachine Labs - Auria DAW for the iPad
« Reply #11 on: December 02, 2013, 12:08:16 PM »
Update - Dec 2013.

I feel Auria is the king of IOS DAW apps

Derek Buddemeyer is a recent member here:
http://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=10015.msg71967#msg71967

Suggest subscribe to Derek Buddemeyer's YouTube Channel for lots of good advice-
http://www.youtube.com/user/buddemeyer72?feature=watch
Lots of good IOS Music App tips and Tricks he has shared:
Custom IR Cab Files In Auria



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but if you want a low latency mobile IOS Guitar rig app, try JamUp Pro and save some $$

In your opinion this is the best one? i have a bunch of the others like amplitude etc, was never overly impressed. If you say this is your favourite then i will jump on it.


Read review of Positive Grid's Bias+ Jamup ProXT here
http://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=9903.0
http://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=8378.0
http://www.vguitarforums.com/smf/index.php?topic=9882.0
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Offline Elantric

Re: Wavemachine Labs - Auria DAW for the iPad
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Re: Wavemachine Labs - Auria DAW for the iPad
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Offline SuperNiCd

Re: Wavemachine Labs - Auria DAW for the iPad
« Reply #14 on: December 07, 2013, 07:28:10 AM »
Nice!  I have yet to really push the iPad Air to the limit in terms of CPU and memory usage.  This is a pretty impressive demo of how far it can go.  Looks like I can now be more 'sloppy' in terms of watching the CPU usage like a hawk.
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Offline mbenigni

Re: Wavemachine Labs - Auria DAW for the iPad
« Reply #15 on: December 13, 2013, 11:08:14 PM »
Hi guys. I'm trying to decide between Auria and Cubasis right now, and if I understand correctly, they each have significant blindspots. Auria is audio-only i.e. no MIDI recording; Cubasis has no track automation, e.g volume/ pan.  Are these two assumptions correct?

I' m actually leaning toward Cubasis right now, despite Auria being more full-featured, higher fidelity, and getting rave reviews from so many professionals, because MIDI recording and editing is pretty important to me, and because I understand cubasis to have a faster more intuitive UI for editing on the iPad. Can anyone comment on my assumptions and help get me off the fence?  Many thanks!

Offline SuperNiCd

Re: Wavemachine Labs - Auria DAW for the iPad
« Reply #16 on: December 14, 2013, 08:14:26 AM »
I have them both.  As of this moment your assumptions are correct, and those are probably the biggest differentiators.  I'm not sure if I can knock you off the fence because I like them both and really struggle with which one to use when I start a new project.  Here are a few other thoughts that may help or may make your decision even harder:

Cubasis comes bundled with a bunch of decent sounding instruments to use inside of it.  That includes a bunch of sample-based instruments for things like pianos, drums, saxophone, etc.  Probably not as big a library as the fully loaded SampleTank, but still a lot of instruments to choose from.  It also has a built in subtractive synth called Micrologue - very Moog-esque, and fully programmable.

Auria has a lot of very high quality plug ins (for in-app purchase) available.  In particular, the FabFilter plugins are just amazing.  There is a small fortune that can be spent here.  Auria has started on MIDI and right now it supports MIDI clock and sync as well as Mackie control.  This is useable over virtual MIDI so that you can have the play button in another app start Auria or vice versa.  They are supposed to be working on a full MIDI implementation from what I understand (will be IAP).  Both are inter app audio hosts.

My personal opinion is that Cubasis's inter-app audio and Audiobus implementations are slightly slicker than Auria's.  I won't say that Cubasis's UI is easier to understand but it is more modern looking and does seem very much like it was designed from the ground up for iPad.  Auria has a bit more of a traditional desktop DAW/console feel - you stlil have to navigate drop down menus for some things.  They did add a toolbar a while back that improves this greatly.  If you've used a desktop based DAW, you will feel at home in Auria.

So far Cubasis has no IAPs.  Everything Steinberg has added has been included for free in a release.  If you bought everything available in the Auria store (plug-ins, loops, convolution IRs, etc.), you'd be into it for several hundred dollars - maybe more.  I also understand that the most recent SDK for Steinberg's VST architecture includes the ability to compile for iOS and inter-app audio, so we might see the VST market explode for Cubasis in the not too distant future.

So I would say that Auria has a lot more tools available to get you the most professional results.  However, if you want to spend just $50 then Cubasis probably offers a lot more out of the gate.  And if a fully integrated, full MIDI implementation is at the top of your list, Cubasis is the only choice right now.  But both seem to be being actively developed so who knows what the future holds...

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Offline mbenigni

Re: Wavemachine Labs - Auria DAW for the iPad
« Reply #17 on: December 14, 2013, 08:57:15 AM »
Thanks a million, SuperNiCd!  This is extremely helpful. It largely reinforces what I already understood about these products, but I kind of needed to hear the obvious from someone else's perspective, as it seems like there's so much less buzz for Cubasis compared with auria right now.

I think I'm going to pull the trigger on cubasis. There's a temptation to buy auria for the simple sake of buying "the best", but realistically MIDI is important to me, for building and editing basic scratch tracks. And I'm pretty obsessive about intuitive UI design - it's the very reason I'm looking for an iOS DAW in the first place.

Combine this with the fact that Auria is so much more expensive all in, and the fact that I'm likely to fly my projects to another computer for final mx anyway, and it just makes more sense.

I only wish cubasis had track automation and a broader variety export formats. Soon, hopefully.

Thanks again!!!

Offline SuperNiCd

Re: Wavemachine Labs - Auria DAW for the iPad
« Reply #18 on: December 14, 2013, 10:18:44 AM »
Based on what you say you're looking for I think you'll be very happy with Cubasis.  This forum in particular seems to buzz more about Auria, but on the whole I think Cubasis has a pretty large fan base too.  In my opinion neither has emerged as a clear winner of the best iPad DAW award.  ;)  They both have strengths and weaknesses, and while very capable, neither is as robust as [ProTools, Studio One, Reaper, fill in the blank other mature desktop DAW].
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Offline mbenigni

Re: Wavemachine Labs - Auria DAW for the iPad
« Reply #19 on: December 14, 2013, 01:36:01 PM »
I'm getting familiar with Cubasis now and I think you're right. It's important to me to have an app that can be realistically used on small touchscreen, with a guitar on my shoulder, that won't induce fatigue or frustration.  Garage Band is a little too chunky/ MyFirstDAW, but Auria might be so much like a full blown desktop DAW that I'd just get lost in it, and lose sight of my guitar and musical aims (as has happened with so many desktop applications over the years...)

Anyway, excited, optimistic... Thanks again!


Offline Elantric

Re: Wavemachine Labs - Auria DAW for the iPad
« Reply #21 on: March 26, 2014, 11:04:47 AM »
Auria 1.141 Released

Version 1.141 of Auria and Auria LE has been released through the iOS App Store. This update addresses some issues created by the recent 7.1 iOS update, as well as some other bug fixes plus a new FabFilter effect IAP, their Multi-Band Compressor plug-in Pro-MB.

Fixed in 1.141:
iOS7.1 bug related to 96K projects
Low volume issue – added option for speaker/mic processing in settings
Auto-input monitor – Auria now mixes the input with the playback audio automatically
Change to Audiobus when using Auria in the input slot (made Master the default port)
New versions of WOW and Turnado fixing various bugs
New versions of all FabFilter plugins, which fix the spectrum analyzer issue
New versions of all the FXpansion plugins, fixing various bugs
Issue with Auria incorrectly reporting the transport state and positions to IAA plugins

Added in 1.141:


also new plug in for Auria  Fab Filter Pro MB (MultiBand )

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Offline Elantric

Re: Wavemachine Labs - Auria DAW for the iPad
« Reply #22 on: April 25, 2014, 04:04:17 PM »
http://www.musicappblog.com/auria-update-1-142/

If you are looking for the most powerful audio-only iOS DAW app currently available, then you don’t really need to look much further than WaveMachineLabs Auria. I produced an in-depth review of the app when it was originally released back in July 2012 and, while the app has received a number of updates since then bringing new features such as Audiobus and IAA support or making new IAP plug-ins available, much of what’s described in that review still stands; if you don’t know the app, then give it a read.
Since day one, Auria has been a clear demonstration that an iPad can be a serious audio multitrack recording platform. Pair it with a quality audio interface and a few microphones and it will not be the iPad or iOS that is the real limitation to what you can achieve; that is more likely to be down to you, your musicians and the musical ideas.
However, having captured your recording, WaveMachine Labs are obviously keen for you to be able to craft it in as efficient a way as possible. The latest update – which brings Auria to v.1.142 – adds one significant new feature but, from an editing/arranging workflow perspective, it is a very useful one; ripple editing. This feature – which you can toggle on/off via the Edit menu – means that when you edit a track – perhaps by selecting an audio region and moving it along the timeline – all other elements on the track will also be moved along with it. Very usefully, this includes any automation data associated with the track.
If you are prone to the occasional ‘oh, wouldn’t it be nice to have an extra repeat of the chorus there’ sort of moment, ripple editing is a big deal and makes it much easier to make the space required to slot in new content to an existing arrangement.

In addition to this new feature, it also looks like a few bug fixes have been applied. A number of these address issues associated with IAA-based apps and, again, from a workflow perspective, these will be most welcome.
For multitrack recording, Auria – and the ‘lite’ version Auria LE – are still top of the iOS tree. It is packed with features and, while you can’t do MIDI recording, as an audio-only platform, Auria is hugely impressive. Like Audiobus (and now Audiobus 2), Auria was something of a landmark release when it first appeared. The additions since then have improved it even further. Here’s hoping WaveMachine Labs can keep it moving forwards.


Offline Elantric

Re: Wavemachine Labs - Auria DAW for the iPad
« Reply #23 on: July 02, 2014, 12:37:55 PM »


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Offline Elantric

Re: Wavemachine Labs - Auria DAW for the iPad
« Reply #24 on: December 06, 2014, 07:34:50 AM »

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